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Misc Drugs: Becoming more immune and safe. (BUILD YOUR BODY AGAINST LD50)

Jabberwocky

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Hi,

Weather or not you may use certain types of drugs, the main point is once someone may enter the "drug culture" such as maybe if come across drugs they will do them, and enjoy them. Or have this point to where they use drugs. Some may even try nutmeg but end up getting poisoned(rapid heart beat,extreme nausea,half brain dead,etc for 3 days).
EG: Lets take Cocaine for example. Man 1 may have his LD50 at 80mg. Then Man 2 may have his LD50 at 60mg <-EXAMPLE. ( I have never even done cocaine).

Now. EVERYONE has their own tolerance or build. And some people can stick certain drugs, and some people can't. Some people may be very senestive to drugs such as cocaine,caffeine,opioids,benzos,etc.

The idea of this thread is: To increase your drug lethal dose level, so with any drug or toxin you may become more immune to them. Resulting in less chances of over doses,black outs,etc.

So please, give your ideas,opinions,input,feedback on how people can become more immune to drugs "taking over, as in the drugs effect you're brain/body in a health way-> meaning; EG: you take cocaine, you take cocaine again and you start getting really bad effects such as rapid heart beat,nausea,dizzy,etc. <-Preventing that from happening. Yes it is about controlling the dosage, BUT a person will take whatever and the idea is to give inputs to make them more of a strong-will so they won't end up getting a reverse reaction.


Please start to give your ideas and inputs below.
 
Well, first off.
If you've taken something and you think, or know you are going to or have the potential to be overwhelmed or overdose you should try not to panic, especially if the drug(s) you've taken are a stimulant(s) or specifically excite the heart and vascular systems. This is not to say you shouldn't be alarmed about your condition and seek aid, you should just try and keep your body and mind calm so as to not spiral yourself into something that could worsen your physical symptoms. I think it's quite possible this has saved my life on two occasions.
 
Diode said:
Well, first off.
If you've taken something and you think, or know you are going to or have the potential to be overwhelmed or overdose you should try not to panic, especially if the drug(s) you've taken are a stimulant(s) or specifically excite the heart and vascular systems. This is not to say you shouldn't be alarmed about your condition and seek aid, you should just try and keep your body and mind calm so as to not spiral yourself into something that could worsen your physical symptoms. I think it's quite possible this has saved my life on two occasions.
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Yes, that has happened to me quite some times.
hehehe yes, yeah and what have you done during that time also?... but in general its like you may go into this 'calm panic mode', and eat lots of fruit and veg, then drink lots of water and milk, listen to calming music and all that.
but yeah, it really does work. the idea is, to post if there are any certain foods that really do stop the effects or help prevent it. eg: if someone took a stimulant orally, and they started to get that panic if they went to eat carrots,spinach,blueberries,fish,drinking lots of water and other top health items in one go, instead of going and drinking coke and eating a really bad heart foods.
but in general. sorry can't think so good now :sus:

Example:
I took Beta-PEA orally, within 20 minutes I started feeling like the devil walking on the earth and everything was burning,extremely high heart rate and felt like something jumped at me and the whole world would just jump at me or something, I had the feeling that I was going to die.

I went into 'calm panic mode'; I got undressed quickly (heavy/warm clothes) and then put on a light t-shirt,shorts and sandals, then I ate a whole bag of raw spinach, 3 big carrots,2 apples,a banana, fish with brown bread and blueberries and then drank a massive amount of cold water.

After that, the near-death feeling was reduced by about 30%-60%. I felt about 50% way more calmer after it and knew I would survive. (but before I went into the calm mode I had the feeling oh no I think I am going to die)

REMEMBER: Some fruit,veg and other food products can extremely potentate the drug and or may cause a reverse reaction. EG: Grapefruit Juice+Some drugs = Some liver reaction causing there to be more potent (serve). Cheese+Some drugs = Reserve Reaction (serve) .... As I listed above grapefruit juice and cheese, they were only some and there are many other products that cause the reaction.
 
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^The near death feeling was reduced by 30-60%? How can you even estimate such a percentage?

You make too many threads with no point in every forum.
 
^ I'm sorry OP but I agree. You seem to be quite off your rocker on some things like this obsession with food somehow saving lives/ending comedowns and the like. Give someone who overdosed on heroin, cocaine, methamp, etc give them a sandwich or a fucking bag of raw spinach and see what good it does as they die in front of you. And you also have no understanding of LD50 if you think you can change your own LD50 for specific drugs. It's ludicrous and honestly quite dangerous thinking.
 
ohshea said:
^The near death feeling was reduced by 30-60%? How can you even estimate such a percentage?

You make too many threads with no point in every forum.
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If you think that I have confused you, then I will try to formulate my words differently, what i'm trying to do is discuss different solutions to prevent crisis's, and this is a real possibility, maybe not in your case, but we need to discuss it.
 
aiir said:
If you think that I have confused you, then I will try to formulate my words differently, what i'm trying to do is discuss different solutions to prevent crisis's, and this is a real possibility, maybe not in your case, but we need to discuss it.
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No where in my post did I say I was confused. I understand what you're getting at, but if anything, it seems against harm reduction. Why do we need to come up with ways to make our bodies more capable of handling lethal doses? We shouldn't even be aiming to take near lethal doses.

I think you are spouting off misinformation all around the forum, several of your threads have even been closed by the mods. Stop polluting the forum.
 
aiir said:
Hi,

Weather or not you may use certain types of drugs, the main point is once someone may enter the "drug culture" such as maybe if come across drugs they will do them, and enjoy them. Or have this point to where they use drugs. Some may even try nutmeg but end up getting poisoned(rapid heart beat,extreme nausea,half brain dead,etc for 3 days).
EG: Lets take Cocaine for example. Man 1 may have his LD50 at 80mg. Then Man 2 may have his LD50 at 60mg <-EXAMPLE. ( I have never even done cocaine).

Now. EVERYONE has their own tolerance or build. And some people can stick certain drugs, and some people can't. Some people may be very senestive to drugs such as cocaine,caffeine,opioids,benzos,etc.

The idea of this thread is: To increase your drug lethal dose level, so with any drug or toxin you may become more immune to them. Resulting in less chances of over doses,black outs,etc.

So please, give your ideas,opinions,input,feedback on how people can become more immune to drugs "taking over, as in the drugs effect you're brain/body in a health way-> meaning; EG: you take cocaine, you take cocaine again and you start getting really bad effects such as rapid heart beat,nausea,dizzy,etc. <-Preventing that from happening. Yes it is about controlling the dosage, BUT a person will take whatever and the idea is to give inputs to make them more of a strong-will so they won't end up getting a reverse reaction.
Wut th.
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There's no reliable way to increase the LD50 and decrease the negative side effects of drugs. If you feel bad when you do cocaine, maybe stop doing cocaine for a while.

To an extent, mithridatism can be observed when you take continually increasing doses of drugs (e.g. a chronic heroin abuser can do doses of opioids that would kill a naive user), but that doesn't protect you from the side effects... in fact, in general, the higher the dose of a drug the more side effects you can expect to see, so increasing LD50 is pretty fruitless because the level of side effects won't go down.
 
I can see how eating healthy foods during panic when taking psychadelics to reduce the bad trip to put you in a better mind state. But thats got nothing to do with helpin to reduce the LD50. Only increasing tolerance will increase your individual ld50. If you take too much and overdose you need to go to hospital, not do any of taht other shit.
 
wait yes guys, sorry. I got mixed up with LD50 (lethal dose) and the panic mode someone enters when they take a little bit too much to produce paradox effects but it is not od.

thanks
 
Wow ok so my earlier post is ringing quite true. What you are saying now makes a lot more sense. To respond: yes I think that there are a variety of things both mental and physical that one can do to help stop a panic feeling to escalating into a full blown panic attack couples with the effects of drugs causing issues. That is actually worthy of discussing, somewhat.
 
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