• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums
  • OD Moderators: notsmokeymcpot420 |

Harm Reduction Drug Use and Body Temperature

Captain.Heroin

Captain.Heroin

Bluelight Crew
Joined
Nov 3, 2008
Messages
94,859
Location
Thousands of Miles Away From You
Hello all, it's been a while since I've posted in Other Drugs so I really wanted to create a quality contribution for once, perhaps in an attempt to make amends for all the derelict things I've done over the years, like shooting buprenorphine, methamphetamine, DMT.... :| A quick note to any new, newer, or new-ish users, I have lost many friends to drug use over the years and still am unsure of how I'm still here. Life is precious, drugs can really be fun but don't let it be the focus of your day or life or anything.

I am inquiring as to the often referenced hypothermia google responses...

Wellness Library | Cigna

Visit our complete library of health topics, with coverage information, policies and more.
www.cigna.com

If a low body temperature is your only symptom, it is not something to worry about. If a low body temperature occurs with other symptoms, such as chills, shaking, breathing problems, or confusion, then this may be a sign of more serious illness.

Low body temperature usually happens from being out in cold weather. But it may also be caused by alcohol or drug use, going into shock , or certain disorders such as diabetes or low thyroid .

A low body temperature may occur with an infection. This is most common in newborns, older adults, or people who are frail. A very bad infection, such as sepsis , may also cause an abnormal low body temperature.
Click to expand...

For the record I am not having chills, shaking, breathing problems or confusion. Assuming I can rule out things like walking around in the cold weather, shock, diabetes, hypothyroidism, infection and sepsis.... then

what drugs cause hypothermia? Is it something like dose-dependent?

I took my temperature about 15 minutes ago and it has read 96.7°F (35.9°C). This is not normal for me. I am used to having a 98.6°F reading (37°C).

For sake of harm reduction, I want to make a list of drugs (and perhaps relative conditions/dosages) that will alter body temperature as part of the covid-19 approach is now temperature measurement (and already was for illness to begin with, etc.) so I will edit this post as information is confirmed.

Specifically finding information on what drugs will do to body temperature has been quite difficult.
 
Looks like for both addicts and novice heroin users, hypothermia is a result.

5 Body temperature fell after injection of heroin in a similar way in both groups while neither skin temperature nor skin conductance changed. This was interpreted as a drug-induced alteration in thermo-regulatory mechanisms.
Click to expand...

Cardiovascular, respiratory and temperature responses to intravenous heroin (diamorphine) in dependent and non-dependent humans - PMC

1 Intravenous heroin (diamorphine) was administered to volunteers, in doses of 2.5 and 5 mg to non-dependent and doses of 1/6, 1/3 and 1/2 of their prescribed daily dose of opiates to dependent subjects, and heart and respiration rates, blood ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

KLRBI7i.jpg


Can someone tell me if those are small/weak dosages or whatever for the study?

1 Intravenous heroin (diamorphine) was administered to volunteers, in doses of 2.5 and 5 mg to non-dependent and doses of 1/6, 1/3 and 1/2 of their prescribed daily dose of opiates to dependent subjects, and heart and respiration rates, blood pressure, body and skin temperature and skin conductance were measured before and for 2 h after injection.
Click to expand...

If only I had a brain.... like @sekio

8a5abe2ed7c4fdedf2b5e28aac799331.jpg


By the way I am struggling to find an opioid calculator that will include IV heroin to oral morphine dosages (this is a comparison I would like to make).
 
Last edited:
It appears a 5mg IV heroin shot can cause 0.4°C drop to say, 98.2°F.


In this pdf does it really imply some states have different "requirements" for opioid conversion or use ranges, or something? What did that slide mean?

Looking at slide entitled "Example Converting to MEDD", 10mg morphine IV is like 30mg morphine orally.

Is 5mg heroin IV equivalent to 10mg of morphine? This is what I seem to remember (pure heroin, obviously) and then, can I extrapolate to assume my temperature may have dropped 1.9°F due to taking a morphine equivalent of oh, say, 60-75 milligrams? My gut assumption is, no, and that what is implied in the chart cannot be assumed to "continue" or go exponentially down with increased dose.

But if 5mg IV heroin is weak and not truly indicative of what recreational dosages are doing to body temperature, please, someone clue me in.
 
Anxiety can also cause low body temperature. Just throwing it out there. Infection too. I would be more inclined to rule out those before looking to drugs as to why a persons body temp was low.
 
Good topic CH. I wanted to post about this because I am quite concerned about how hot I get when mething. I’ve not actually taken my temperature properly but it’s obvious I am radiating heat - especially when doing any kind of activity. I’ve wondered whether hitting a certain temp should be considered over-amping even if one does not have psychological or other physiological signs of having pushed it too far. It’s really the only symptom I get.
 
Atelier3 said:
Good topic CH. I wanted to post about this because I am quite concerned about how hot I get when mething. I’ve not actually taken my temperature properly but it’s obvious I am radiating heat - especially when doing any kind of activity. I’ve wondered whether hitting a certain temp should be considered over-amping even if one does not have psychological or other physiological signs of having pushed it too far. It’s really the only symptom I get.
Click to expand...
Basically just use less and know that if you get really cold feeling hypothermic that likely means you’ve overdosed in a very bad way and need to get medical attention from what I understand.
 
I’ve never got so hot I’ve felt cold. But I often feel like you could fry an egg on my forehead. When smoking it takes hardly any amount to heat me up. With shooting it was much rarer - even though the amount of meth consumed was actually larger.
 
Do you still use buprenorphine?


I'm going on 5 years now of daily buprenorphine use. I recently went to the doctor for a physical & labs because I have been sweating a lot lately and always feel tired and unmotivated.

Surprisingly, all my labs came back great. No thyroid issues, no diabetes, blood sugar is good, no HIV, no hep c.. This is amazing for somebody who's used drugs for over 20 years.
Have not got my testosterone results back yet tho.

I use to sweat a ton after a meth binges, even for up to 4-5 days after finally crashing, I would have wild temperature fluctuations.

I also have high blood pressure, which I think is from my anxiety + smoking & years of drug use. But it too makes me have hot flashes and sweat. I'm not totally sure if this makes my internal body temperature go up or not, but some times I feel like I'm literally on fire. So could stress / blood pressure affect body temperature too possibly?

How perspiration / tactical feelings translate into body temperature, I'm not sure.

Drugs like Wellbutrin use to make me feel hot and I would sweat a very weird shiny sweat on my face.

Drugs like Ritalin can make me feel cold.

Alcohol use to make me sweat profusely. Even if I didn't feel hot, the arm pits of my shirt would be soaked the entire night of my drinking session.

I also find that if I'm cold or hot and then smoke cannabis, my sense of temperature becomes kind of distorted and I can pull through the cold or hotness much easier. Doesn't cannabis raise blood pressure for up to an hour after smoking though?
 
Last edited:
Relevant atm very very hot. Hypothermia [temp down ?] doesnt seem unwanted. Just like avoiding hyperthermia [up ?] . 28 C. / 80 F. inside 39 C./ 100 F. outside in the sun.

Was a rumor that Guarana worked cooling. Like a tonic drink with Kinine works better then a Coke or Ice coffee. Is that through ? Are there certain things that cool via a internal mechanism. When following Ayurveda/ Chinese medicin. Lot s of stuff are either cooling, neutral or warming. [leaving the fine tuning like constitutions out of the equation]. Raw fruit should be cooling. So how about ginger tea from the fresh root. Warm or cool,

Could go both ways, just like Kratom. Sipping both simultaneous atm. While smoking Weed. They seem to go well with it/ no negative effect. Weed feels heavier then usual. Dex-Amphetamine therapeutically seems ok.

Big amounts of it or Cocaine seem they d be unpleasant or MDMA. Psychedelics seem better to go with heat. Though 2c-.. swouldn t wanna take these atm. not planning on taking these just rambling a bit on it.

But in all soberness feeling cool very curious in strategies to regulate the temp from the inside. Anything related welcome to, but simple things in everyday routine what i am looking for. Summer just beginning and in the first heatwave.
 
Last edited:
Captain.Heroin said:
REALLY? ANXIETY, YOU SAY?

can it push it down that low? omfg.
Click to expand...
What type of thermometer are you using....Rexall (and other cheap thermometers) oftentimes only read around 96.7 (I know this---because I have experienced it recently) I was freaking out----and thought, perhaps it's the cheap thermometer? I looked it up and lo and behold, others verified it.
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Big amounts of it or Cocaine seem they d be unpleasant or MDMA. Psychedelics seem better to go with heat. Though 2c-.. swouldn t wanna take these atm. not planning on taking these just rambling a bit on it.
Click to expand...
I was thinking this myself when picking what to take today.

the issue with both MDMA and 2C-B is I usually wanna put music on and dance! that ain't happening!

I enjoyed some GBL today with the 2C-B and kept taking it afterwards to chill out on the sofa with a fan and a lovely cup of cold brew coffee that I had to foresight to make 2 days ago - gift to my future self
 
theangryflower said:
What type of thermometer are you using....Rexall (and other cheap thermometers) oftentimes only read around 96.7 (I know this---because I have experienced it recently) I was freaking out----and thought, perhaps it's the cheap thermometer? I looked it up and lo and behold, others verified it.
Click to expand...
Get the confusion . Had a laugh thanks ... need laughs it awful hot anything helps. Wait have to turn the fan this way its aimed at my telly.

Not rectal temped used the ones on my wall and on a weather site.

:ROFLMAO: but probably right about these having a range they dont measure minus afaik.
 
placebonaut said:
I enjoyed some GBL today with the 2C-B and kept taking it afterwards to chill out on the sofa with a fan and a lovely cup of cold brew coffee that I had to foresight to make 2 days ago - gift to my future self
Click to expand...
But is iced Coffee more cooling then warm. Or other things spicy and or Melons. Why do i crave Gin Tonic ? Anything basically besides artificial airco. Or is adding a slice of Lemon ;) it. Feel a sort of delayed siesta coming. Have a nice one to you
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top