A friend of mine (honestly a friend, not me) is taking a drug test for a job in about a week. She has smoked weed a couple times in the past week and a lot in the past couple months. The type of drug tests she is getting supposedly tests to see if if you took something to cover it up or to see if the others things (protiens, enzymes, whatever) are abnormally low. Does anyone know if she takes goldenseal now...the one that is supposed to totally clear out your system...will she be able to build up the other 'things' and still block out the weed? Or would she be better off taking the kind that covers you for just 6 hours or so? Please help.
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PhreeX
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In short - your friend is fucked...
If she smoked weed a few times in the past week and has a test soon, well, she can pray to Allah but she will probably fail...
The "cover up" tests they do arerather complex, and they can detect TRACE AMOUNTS of drugs...
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If she smoked weed a few times in the past week and has a test soon, well, she can pray to Allah but she will probably fail...
The "cover up" tests they do arerather complex, and they can detect TRACE AMOUNTS of drugs...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
Most all of those are total shit... her best bet is to flush her system by drinking as much water as she can.. and of course she needs to PUT THE PIPE DOWN! Also, she needs to STALL AS LONG AS SHE CAN ... she needs to get the flu or something (it's flu and anthrax season, so either could buy her a week)...
Forget all the "test clean" type products you see, from what you describe, they will be testing for that EXACT TYPE THING ...
If she ALREADY has a job she can claim drug dependance and they can't fire her ... if this is for a new job, well, back to the gubment checks!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
Forget all the "test clean" type products you see, from what you describe, they will be testing for that EXACT TYPE THING ...
If she ALREADY has a job she can claim drug dependance and they can't fire her ... if this is for a new job, well, back to the gubment checks!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
Exx_head
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Smoking weed is SUCH a bad idea if you have to be tested or are subject to random testing (as I am). Stick to things they don't test for (GHB, Mushrooms, Acid) and smoke when you are on vacation for a week or so. Doing coke, opiates, and MJ are just asking for trouble IMHO.
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PhreeX
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Cocaine and opioids are really ok - if you can stall for 2 days you're in the clear .. but marijuana.. my, my, my... there is just no (practical) way of getting around it ...
So unless you have a job that you KNOW wont be testing you (or you just dont care about the job), or if you're on probation, or anyhing like that - STOP SOKING POT! It's that simple...
This persons "friend" will fail her drug test and you can thank the devil weed for it!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
So unless you have a job that you KNOW wont be testing you (or you just dont care about the job), or if you're on probation, or anyhing like that - STOP SOKING POT! It's that simple...
This persons "friend" will fail her drug test and you can thank the devil weed for it!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
Weed sucks when it comes to testing. Go to www.erowid.org, and check out the THC or Cannabis vault. They have a THC calculator, where you enter in your history of pot smoking (over the last few days) and you can see how long it takes for the THC to get out of your system. If you smoke one day, it takes about six to get out of your system. If you do it two days consecutively (sp), your looking at two weeks. All in all, your friend is probably fucked. Like Phreex said, drink lots of water, and I would start running a few miles a day to speed up metabolism.
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I beg to differ. She has a good chance. A 'friend' of mine was on probabtion recently. He was able to smoke on the weekends (not excessively) and still pass the test on each Thursday. Here is what to do:
1. Drink 2 or 3 litres of water in the 2 hours before the test. Don't over do it.
2. Most drug tests check for creatine levels. This is to prevent you from doing #1 above (flushing your pee).
When I was being tested, I once saw my POs computer listing all the tests I had passed. 2 of the tests indicated that I passed but the creatine level was below the accepted levels. It was his discretion to do anything, and he did not.
Anyway, you can boost your creatine levels. Just buy it at GNC and take 3 spoonfuls a few hours before your test.
3. If you drink all that water, your pee will be white. Take a B-2 vitamin to color it yellow. Be care, take only one, or even one half. It makes your pee neon yellow if you take too much.
I think with a week, she may be all right. Of course, she has to stop NOW.
The other thing my 'friend' did was buy drug test kits from the internet. These little kits are the same used by many low budgets places. Its just like a pregnancy test...you add your pee to the little paper and its tells you positive or negative. My 'friend' used them before each test to just be sure.
Good luck!
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 28 November 2001).]
1. Drink 2 or 3 litres of water in the 2 hours before the test. Don't over do it.
2. Most drug tests check for creatine levels. This is to prevent you from doing #1 above (flushing your pee).
When I was being tested, I once saw my POs computer listing all the tests I had passed. 2 of the tests indicated that I passed but the creatine level was below the accepted levels. It was his discretion to do anything, and he did not.
Anyway, you can boost your creatine levels. Just buy it at GNC and take 3 spoonfuls a few hours before your test.
3. If you drink all that water, your pee will be white. Take a B-2 vitamin to color it yellow. Be care, take only one, or even one half. It makes your pee neon yellow if you take too much.
I think with a week, she may be all right. Of course, she has to stop NOW.
The other thing my 'friend' did was buy drug test kits from the internet. These little kits are the same used by many low budgets places. Its just like a pregnancy test...you add your pee to the little paper and its tells you positive or negative. My 'friend' used them before each test to just be sure.
Good luck!
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 28 November 2001).]
PhreeX
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This isn't the piss-on-a-stick and see which drugs the pink dot shows up next to... this type of test uses fancy machines, you know, the type with all kinds of flashing lights that make random beeping noises.. they pour yer piss in, the machine beeps and flashes, then gives out a reading saying "marijuana detected" ... they are sensitive, so as I said, chances are she is fucked... if she drink lots of water she might have a chance, but these machines cantest to like a few particles per million.. lets hope her body fat content is low!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
PhreeX...I would have agreed with you before 'my friend' went through this shit for 4 months.
Now my friend only used the piss on a stick tests for my his own personal tests before the offical test. The governmental agency that tested him used the normal lab tests.
The lab tests that you are talking about check for two major things beyond the drugs:
First, they test for adulterents (sp?). That could be bleach, vinegar or the contents of those masking drinks.
Second, they also check for overly-watery urine (that is not the technical term). They do this by checking creatine level (the actual tester may also reject urine if it looks clear..that is why i suggest the b-2). If you preload with creatine, this should not be a problem either.
Unless you are testing for the CIA or something, they have certain guidelines. The cut-off suggested by the Dept. of Health and Human Services for THC is 50 ng/ml (this is also porbably the minimum that would hold up in court). So, you need to get your urine below that level. Heavy water drinking combined with B-2 and creatine worked for me.
Good luck.
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 29 November 2001).]
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 29 November 2001).]
Now my friend only used the piss on a stick tests for my his own personal tests before the offical test. The governmental agency that tested him used the normal lab tests.
The lab tests that you are talking about check for two major things beyond the drugs:
First, they test for adulterents (sp?). That could be bleach, vinegar or the contents of those masking drinks.
Second, they also check for overly-watery urine (that is not the technical term). They do this by checking creatine level (the actual tester may also reject urine if it looks clear..that is why i suggest the b-2). If you preload with creatine, this should not be a problem either.
Unless you are testing for the CIA or something, they have certain guidelines. The cut-off suggested by the Dept. of Health and Human Services for THC is 50 ng/ml (this is also porbably the minimum that would hold up in court). So, you need to get your urine below that level. Heavy water drinking combined with B-2 and creatine worked for me.
Good luck.
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 29 November 2001).]
[This message has been edited by PlutoMars (edited 29 November 2001).]
Curious_George
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B vitamins do not make your piss be the right color at all. It makes it have a greenish, fluorescent tint that probation officers often recognize.
PhreeX
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It all depends on who the test is for...
I have testing for probation, and they use the Roche insta-sticks ... test for cocaine, marijuana, amphetamines, opiates, and PCP ... they usually don't care if you piss almost totally clear - I have to, because I just have a hard time pissing with a guy looking over my shoulder saying "c'mon, hurry it up" .. the only way I can really satisify them is if I drink so much I HAVE to piss so bad it doesn't matter some slob is looking at my schlong tapping his feet as to hurry me...
But yeah, all those "kits" you can buy online are scams... they are nothing more then some amino acids (ie to keep creatine levels up) and something to make you piss yellow - most ALL say to drink their magic potion with like 2 gallons of water ..
And yes, you do NOT get your money back because they say "if you failed then you were breaking the law, which we don't support" ...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
I have testing for probation, and they use the Roche insta-sticks ... test for cocaine, marijuana, amphetamines, opiates, and PCP ... they usually don't care if you piss almost totally clear - I have to, because I just have a hard time pissing with a guy looking over my shoulder saying "c'mon, hurry it up" .. the only way I can really satisify them is if I drink so much I HAVE to piss so bad it doesn't matter some slob is looking at my schlong tapping his feet as to hurry me...
But yeah, all those "kits" you can buy online are scams... they are nothing more then some amino acids (ie to keep creatine levels up) and something to make you piss yellow - most ALL say to drink their magic potion with like 2 gallons of water ..
And yes, you do NOT get your money back because they say "if you failed then you were breaking the law, which we don't support" ...
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
TrippinTreeToker
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SERTO SERTO SERTO
Go get 5 packs of serto 5 hours b4 the test mix with water hold nose and chug. The Suregel coats your kidneys drink water an hour b4 youll piss water this works unless they give you a more indepth test
Go get 5 packs of serto 5 hours b4 the test mix with water hold nose and chug. The Suregel coats your kidneys drink water an hour b4 youll piss water this works unless they give you a more indepth test
rollinwith2glostix
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im 6'4" and weight about 160 lbs.
ive never had a body fat test but my guess is like zero percent or less. i have a very high metabolism. a few years ago i was put on probation for possession of marijuana and had monthly piss tests. im an everyday smoker and this is how i would pass that monthly test.
4 days before the test i stop smoking weed and start drinking lots of water and cranberry juice. avoid all sugary foods and vioala!! i passed the test each time
P*L*U*R
squirrel
ive never had a body fat test but my guess is like zero percent or less. i have a very high metabolism. a few years ago i was put on probation for possession of marijuana and had monthly piss tests. im an everyday smoker and this is how i would pass that monthly test.
4 days before the test i stop smoking weed and start drinking lots of water and cranberry juice. avoid all sugary foods and vioala!! i passed the test each time
P*L*U*R
squirrel
superbabydoc
Bluelighter
According to this report at erowid drinking 3 litres of water in 3 hours is enough to cause dilutional hyponatremia or water intoxication. This is the condition where taking too much plain water drops your blood sodium levels, leading to swelling of your body tissues and brain due to osmotic pressure. This is a medical emergency, and if untreated, this can be fatal. If people want to drink this much prior to drug testing, then consider adding some salt (1 teaspoon per litre of water) or drinking some isotonic sports drinks.
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
I don't think there is really a risk from drinking too much water, but you can be as carefull as you want...
Dont forget to drink a diuretic, some coffee or cranberry juice, along with the water so that the water will just pass right through you and into the evil cup.
A friend swears by a drop or two of bleach diluted in a few ml's of water which you would then pour into your cup.
A friend swears by a drop or two of bleach diluted in a few ml's of water which you would then pour into your cup.