Drug Sabbatical Support & Appreciation Thread

[Jackal]

Bless your looky out eye



Ack, how shit jude ... how long are you going to try to keep it up for? Have you killed anything yet?

Nah. Had a few doses of road rage this week though. One was quite ugly Mind you, it's London.

I need to stop. I can easily drink every night, all night. Have done for more than just a few years now, with very occasional breaks.

I'm not a loud drunk, I don't slur, stagger or beat people to a pulp. Just keep packing the shit in.

Surprised that I can sleep so easily this week, though I have been doing a lot of exercise and applying da erb liberally

 

[Inso]

Looking at the symptoms of ME now, and a lot of those symptoms seem to tie in with what I feel like with anxiety. I've gotten over the reasons why I was anxious, and really shouldn't have anxiety, any more, but I have a lot of those symptoms - even when I'm on a break from taking drugs. I guess no one will ever diagnose me properly, as the NHS have barely managed to diagnose me with anxiety.

Same on the weed front. A few tokes - fucked.

That's interesting, because I did have some pretty harsh anxiety issues all of a sudden during the beginning of this condition. Was having panic attacks at night and had a general uneasy feeling which wasn't about anything in particular, nothing was worrying me yet I felt varying levels of anxiety a lot of the time along with minor physical symptoms. I was then diagnosed with anxiety itself, but then after a few weeks once I moved back home the anxiety was mostly gone but the physical symptoms became a lot worse to the point where I barely had the energy to think. It was then that the doctor said M.E., which does have a strong psychological component I'm told. Seems to me the two conditions are very related, I began with anxiety which appeared to develop into M.E. i still have very minor anxiety every now and then but its barely noticeable while all the other symptoms atre rediculous in severity a lot of the time.

 

[Treacle]

Do you find that benzos ease the symptoms, like they do with anxiety? You probably haven't had the chance to try yet, but I'd be interested to know. I really should be anxiety free, after all the years I've known it's just in my head, but unfortunately not.

 

[Inso]

I was never offered benzos, GP's don't like to prescribe them apparently, I'd be scared of taking anything sedative given how lacking in energy I am already. I was given SSRIs but never took them because the anxiety attacks seemed to stop on their own once I sorted my head out a bit myself. I was a very very heavy abuser of the old 'erb for years prior to all this happening too, I often wonder if that could have exacerbated the anxiety at the beginning making everything worse.

Sorry to hear you're still suffering from anxiety, its really frustrating when there's no clear explanation.

 

[Treacle]

I was a very very heavy abuser of the old 'erb for years prior to all this happening too, I often wonder if that could have exacerbated the anxiety at the beginning making everything worse.

That's exactly what happened to me.

 

[TheSpade]

Weed caused me to have my first ever panic attack, anxiety has been an issue ever since despite me not touching it ever again. This was many years ago now.

 

[Inso]

In 3 years i never had the slightest bit of anxiety from weed ever, then all of a sudden it started happening. I went through a really stressful event at the time though which seemed to spark it off and my gp thinks that where it stemmed from.

 

[Jackal]

I reckon that I always tended to experience anxiety, but that I never recognised it for what it was until after smoking for a time.

I make myself anxious, it's not the drugs although they can make me uncomfortably aware of the anxiety on occasion. If that makes any sense at all, not sure it does:D

That's just speaking personally, of course.

 

[TheSpade]

As anxiety is all in the head then I guess techinically everyone makes themselves anxious and it has nothing to do with drugs but I still blame the weed, if I hadn't of taken it then it definitely wouldn't have happened.

 

[Inso]

^^I would agree Jude. I was already suffering from anxiety anyway and my heavy weed usage at the time just made me far more aware of it, were it not for me going throgh some shit at the time anyway I think I would have been fine.

That's true Spade, but there could have been some underlying anxiety issues that because the panic attack was so severe it triggered it off. Or perhaps not, I'm no doctor.

I had a sever panic attack after lots of coke/e/weed/everything once and that seemed to trigger some slight anxiety in me for a while.

 

[Bella Figura]

I've got family members with anxiety/get panic attacks so it's not that far fetched that having a bad time on weed was what brought it out for me. I used to be pretty confident, even after getting my first panic attack, I just attributed it to the fear of getting caught.

I'd been smoking for just a couple of years before I got my first panic attack. But it never really happened again until I was having under heavy stress and smoking all the time, at which point I became a recluse and would just be majorly anxious and panicky when I left the house or was with anyone I didn't know.

Thankfully i'm a lot better now (i can leave the house ). I reckon the problem with weed is people underestimate how much of a positive effect a good set and setting can have if you're of a nervous disposition and not to take it lightly and do it any situation/no matter how you're feeling just because its considered a softer drug compared to others when its one of the most anxiogenic i've ever come across.

Also I've found smoking indicas instead of sativas is really helpful if you suffer from anxiety. But i've only ever had the privilege of choosing when I was in Amsterdam

 

[TheSpade]

Try having a panic attack in the middle of the RLD in Amsterdamage whilst tripping out your nut, your face feeling like it's swelling up as well as your tounge, your body buzzing so intensely it's uncomfortable all due to ingesting too much space cake. That wasn't fun.

I reckon the problem with weed is people underestimate

I underestimated it full stop. It's only weed I thought, what harm can it do? Aye.

 

[brokenbrain]

I can't smoke spliffs around people.100% guaranteed to induce severe panic/paranoia.Can only smoke bongs on my own and then everything is fine.

 

[Inso]

Indeed whoremoaning, heavy stress+cannabis usage ain't a good idea since the drug tends to enhance your current state of mind.

I used to love the sativas but when I started getting minor anxiety I much preferred indicas, and what do you know there was a hefty supply of white rhino going around at the time. Best strain ever.

Edit: That's interesting brokenbrain, when I started having this anxiety stuff I found it tended to come out if I smoked alone, when I was with a group it didn't happen as much. Considering I used to smoke alone more of the time I found it mighty odd.

 

[TheSpade]

I wish I'd listened to the boy who worked in the shop when he told me not to eat anymore than half a slab of that cake. All my mates listened and were fine, I ate 2 and had a horrific experience. I didn't realise weed could do that and actually didn't attribute it to the weed at first, though I'd been spiked or was dieing / gone mad.

 

[Inso]

Yeah man i sympathise totally, I decided to cook some weed once, cooked what would have been a moderate dose for smoking of some high grade shit in a cracker with peanut butter. It was a fucking insane psychedelic experience 10x the intensity of anything I ever smoked. I had a great time for the first 4 hours but then it just kept on increasing in intensity and I had a full blown panic attack. My flatmates had to calm me down, I nearly phoned an ambulance lol, they take the piss about it still to this day. Funny thing was it didn't put me off smokiing at all, smoked the next morning and it was fine.

 

[TheSpade]

Aye it kept on increasing with me too and as I didn't realise weed could do that I was caught out and was sure I'd been drugged by someone.

 

[koneko]

There's too much cannabis chat in here for me at the moment to hang about. Am craving badly.... my tolerance is only low with the first 3 joints then I'm back to piggery n' piggery n' piggery...and never to catch that supreme high again, till the next time. What a bloody waste

Really fucked that up for myself big style. Sad

Inso *hugs* so glad there's light at the end of the tunnel for you

 

[Inso]

^Thanks!

Still having intense dreams about weed far too often though, can't wait to get back to it.

edit: yeah you will need a longer break to get tolerance back to how it was when you first started, at least a month probably a fair bit longer depending how heavy/lengthy your habit was. The best way to get the 'magic' back with weed I found was to have none all day, do a hard days work, then smoke a huge fat monster of a spliff soon as I come in. Soooo satisfying, smoking all day leads to constant burnout!

Sorry that was more cannabis chat I'm not helping am I?

 

[koneko]

Inso i think of you often....

Weed dreams ftw LOL. Have aplenty myself

I'm a 20 year + toker... is my greatest love I think 8) Miss it soooo much But know I cant realistically do it daily any more.

What I need is decent "blow" as we say round these parts Actually declined an invitation to visit and smoke soapbar earlier tonight...but glad I did, it's evil stuff

Maybe when I'm in the Dam in July I'll achieve what I'm looking for... be a good selection of things there. Future for me is growing my own and as you say, leaving some time / space between indulgences.

This hurts. Don't know if anyone realises how much this hurts me... I could cry and often do on my 1st joint after a decent sabbatical. Really appreciate the support Inso, realise things re not easy for you at the moment and says a lot to me about you that you reach out to connect with me.

Have you on my BLer must meet list Think we've got lots to talk about....

xxx

^Thanks!

Still having intense dreams about weed far too often though, can't wait to get back to it.

edit: yeah you will need a longer break to get tolerance back to how it was when you first started, at least a month probably a fair bit longer depending how heavy/lengthy your habit was. The best way to get the 'magic' back with weed I found was to have none all day, do a hard days work, then smoke a huge fat monster of a spliff soon as I come in. Soooo satisfying, smoking all day leads to constant burnout!

Sorry that was more cannabis chat I'm not helping am I?