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Opioids Drug Documentaries that scared the shit out of you...

AgonyAndEcstasy781 said:
You're headed for some hard times.
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Thanks, man.

Not sure what you were getting at regarding fear and advice. If you're referring to the documentaries, they were created as entertainment, for a profit. They aren't meant as advice although they certainly are frightening and might serve as an example of where reckless use will get you.
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I did not know that. I hadn't ever watched or heard of any of the documentaries mentioned here. I had presumed they were anti-drug because I didn't know there were any other kind of drug documentaries that aren't about weed or other psychedelics.
 
vajeeh said:
As far as your question as to snorting it rather than just taking it orally, certain medications have a better bioavailability through intranasal/snorting the drug, it gets absorbed through your mucus membranes and sinuses, as well as the blood vessels and capillaries.

Oxycodone is one of these drugs. The better the bioavailability, the more of the drug is absorbed by your body and not wasted. People who prefer to inject (myself included), get 100% of the bioavailability since you are absorbing 100% of the medication, right into your bloodstream. (I am not at all trying to advocate or encourage anyone to try this, because it can, and will most likely result in a crippling addiction.)

However if a medication is combined with ibuprofen or acetominophen/tylenol/apap (like percocet, vicodin, etc), then snorting or shooting the medication is no longer an option, since these meds are not water soluble, and snorting or shooting that would be dangerous, and a waste.

Aside from the fact that snorting it would allow the user to feel more of it, the drug kicks in faster than if it were taken orally. More than twice as fast.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule and the facts I mentioned aren't necessarily applicable to every single compound and substance, but it's generally a rule of thumb as far as oral, snorting, shooting.
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Oxycodone has a higher bioavailability oral than insufflated. 60-87%vs. 46%. So you would actually waste alot more snorting it. You got shit backwards. So the only advantage is the quickness of onset.
 
There is literally no movie/doco regarding drugs that doesn't just make me want a hit. Even watching those gross krokodil doco's makes me want a hit.
 
OCLINDSAY said:
I know oxycodone express, and all the other oxy pill prescription docs. (the youtube top docs if you type oc)
But feel free to recommend oxycodone docs or heroin use docs.

I need to see it so I can gain some more motivation to my 2 week detox off an oxycodone addiction,
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Im pretty sure its actually called oxycontin express... and its a flight from orlando, fla to huntington, wva for like 90 dollars, but since they shut down the pill mills dont think its really a thing anymore
 
pill_billy said:
Im pretty sure its actually called oxycontin express... and its a flight from orlando, fla to huntington, wva for like 90 dollars, but since they shut down the pill mills dont think its really a thing anymore
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Oh yes it is, just not as pervasively as it was a few years ago. I live in Orlando and can go to at least three pill mills still in operation (that I know of), but I need XXXX amount of money. I have friends that do it all the time still to get their oxys and xanax, but it's becoming impossible to fill the prescriptions. Even my mother who is in PM can't fill her dilaudids without going to three or more pharmacies, and it's not even that big of a script..90 4mg. I'd go through that in less than a week, as a heroin addict.

What has changed here is that not everybody can go to these places, you need an MRI and have to be a FL resident over the age of 25 in a lot of places. Heroin has replaced oxycodone or hydromorphone (unless you can afford $35 for an 8 if you don't know someone) big time, the streets are flooded with every kind of shit you can imagine. Tar, tan, beige, china, all varying in quality respectively.
 
no documentaries that I can think of, but some things have changed my view of drugs. Music, deaths, personal experience. Actually, the first exposure I had to drugs were a set of encyclopedias of sorts, in middle school, maybe 20 diff books on diff drugs. They were light on trip reports and heavy on bs/fear mongering/propaganda, and when you figure out one is a lie, you question what else is a lie. Unfortunately, one can easily disregard everything as lies, and that's what I did. and I eventually found something that liked ME too much.

Tho prices arent allowed here, it's kinda weird to know that pill dynamics of a bigger city (Orlando) are just as financially fucked as here (not Orlando). All the crackdown on docs, patients and pharmacies has done is drive up prices and bring heroin into areas it wouldnt normally be. 3 8s or a bundle of dope, same amount of risk/bs/cost involved for either? To me, this isnt even a serious question, but I know plenty of dumbasses getting the 8s.
 
Oh, well they took care of that epidimic in FL, now just a buncha heroin addicts,I mean, who saw that comin' I sure didn't. I wonder if that docutmentry hadn't had been made about people flying from different states etc. if it would still be going on, or at leat to some extent. And shame the pharmacies will not fill them, thats just bullshit. They need to make a law that says call my doctor see if the script is legit..we need some other epidimic going on to get the shit off the opiates, because its really is hurting people who need the meds, and the people who just want them(they will always be around, nothin ya can do to stop them.) Hell, I don't even abuse opiates anymore, on Suboxone, but what if one day I'm actually am in pain, I have Subs on my record, so I guese that leaves me with a Methadone clinic or an understanding doc who would prescribe that for pain with my history(but I never doctor shopped, so that should say something, my Sub doc was really suprised about that...sorry, got waaaay off topic.
 
Screaming_Skull said:
Oh, well they took care of that epidimic in FL, now just a buncha heroin addicts,I mean, who saw that comin' I sure didn't. I wonder if that docutmentry hadn't had been made about people flying from different states etc. if it would still be going on, or at leat to some extent. And shame the pharmacies will not fill them, thats just bullshit. They need to make a law that says call my doctor see if the script is legit..we need some other epidimic going on to get the shit off the opiates, because its really is hurting people who need the meds, and the people who just want them(they will always be around, nothin ya can do to stop them.) Hell, I don't even abuse opiates anymore, on Suboxone, but what if one day I'm actually am in pain, I have Subs on my record, so I guese that leaves me with a Methadone clinic or an understanding doc who would prescribe that for pain with my history(but I never doctor shopped, so that should say something, my Sub doc was really suprised about that...sorry, got waaaay off topic.
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Not that I'm one for the promotion of the drug war and outlawing out substances, but, they did put a slight halt to a public health epidemic, it will continue but Florida was like Disney Land for pill addicts. From what I heard there was a definite drop in overdoses. The doctors were prescribing completely unreasonable amounts and combinations, obviously that was the game plan, but it was just batshit crazy.

Seeing that they were catering to recreational users primarily, I think drugs like this if were to be made legal,there should be public facilities for monitored use as there is in some places, but, also not an amount that ensures a dependence to doses that could euthanize a family of elephants.

I personally get a small script for a mild opiate/opioid usually once a month, use for one to three days and continue on with life, no issue and have done so the last couple of years. Obviously not everyone is capable of that mild usage, but, in a ideal society, it would be nice to see a practice like this intended and prescribed for recreational use.
 
Shit when's it gonna get to the deeep south? Everybody wants pills here, but no heroin(I just always found it odd...) It's still the Meth epidimic here. And Percocet/lortab/xanax/ and roxi's/dillies if ya get in with the 'right crowd'. Its made its way to Gulfport MS somewhat, Birmgmingham,al but not rural areas...I just found it odd. Peolpe eat 20-30 tabs a day when they are deep into it(poor livers) and smoke meth and pop xanax.

Edit:Not saying I want alot of heroin around, or maybe all the Methheads are fucking crazy(well not all) but if you have been around people who do it all the time,stay up for days,always in jail...I'd rather the town prefer opiates...
 
Screaming_Skull said:
Shit when's it gonna get to the deeep south? Everybody wants pills here, but no heroin(I just always found it odd...) It's still the Meth epidimic here. And Percocet/lortab/xanax/ and roxi's/dillies if ya get in with the 'right crowd'. Its made its way to Gulfport MS somewhat, Birmgmingham,al but not rural areas...I just found it odd. Peolpe eat 20-30 tabs a day when they are deep into it(poor livers) and smoke meth and pop xanax.

Edit:Not saying I want alot of heroin around, or maybe all the Methheads are fucking crazy(well not all) but if you have been around people who do it all the time,stay up for days,always in jail...I'd rather the town prefer opiates...
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I agree to some point that opiates in general can be considered less harmfull than meth which literally eats people up from the inside and outside. You can get away with hiding your heroin use (hiding trackmarks) for quite some time, with meth use no way! Comparisons about which one of the two is worse, don't know because I've never been an user of any of the two. My problem has been OC, which to some regards can be considered pure but light H.
 
Ya, that was me too...well first hydros/methadone(wtf,right? this was when I first started and was just chipping in my late teens) then Poppy Pods back when they were really cheap,w/d's from that were shittier than Hydrocodone or oxy w/d, then after Pods back to Hydros and some Percocets, then Roxi 30's snorted, then started Iv'ing add a Little Dilulid and Morphine into the mix when no Roxi was around(shooting everything at this point) then Suboxone, have relasped a few times but they really help me and I'm glad I got on them. Now I just take a little too much xanax at times because cravings for shooting up something and wanting some kind of high come back sooo bad and benzo's are the only thing that help(weed also). Would go on Methadone, but clinics are to far away... Thats my opiate story in a 10 year nutshell, may have left out some parts.
 
Screaming_Skull said:
Ya, that was me too...well first hydros/methadone(wtf,right? this was when I first started and was just chipping in my late teens) then Poppy Pods back when they were really cheap,w/d's from that were shittier than Hydrocodone or oxy w/d, then after Pods back to Hydros and some Percocets, then Roxi 30's snorted, then started Iv'ing add a Little Dilulid and Morphine into the mix when no Roxi was around(shooting everything at this point) then Suboxone, have relasped a few times but they really help me and I'm glad I got on them. Now I just take a little too much xanax at times because cravings for shooting up something and wanting some kind of high come back sooo bad and benzo's are the only thing that help(weed also). Would go on Methadone, but clinics are to far away... Thats my opiate story in a 10 year nutshell, may have left out some parts.
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10 years and you never tried heroin? Woow that's pretty impressive.
 
meth may be more destructive on the body but opiates and herion sound kinda boring.
 
Meth is a brutal addiction though, it changes your behavior, even the way you move, more than just about anything else. After a while you totally lose touch with reality and become fixated on that incredible rush and energy.

Heroin is totally different. Meth makes you intensely interested in the outside world, opiates make you apathetic, like the world is just floating.by peacefully while you watch through rose-colored glasses. Doesn't mean it's boring. That feeling of total peace and bliss is unlike anything else.

Really depends on your personality.
 
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