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yeah i liked that, thanks. Don't know why they didn't get the pot user and the heroin smoking chick to do the strength test, but it was all pretty interesting. I hope they do more episodes of it. And would be good to see other users of different substances on it, like mdma, lsd, oxys or whatever.
 
the hallucinagenics one was pretty cool, didn't feel it went as deep as some of the previous coke, e, hash etc ones went like how it works in the brain etc, more focused on usually 1 case study of each.
now to watch the K one :)
 
poledriver said:
yeah i liked that, thanks. Don't know why they didn't get the pot user and the heroin smoking chick to do the strength test, but it was all pretty interesting. I hope they do more episodes of it. And would be good to see other users of different substances on it, like mdma, lsd, oxys or whatever.
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My exact thoughts! Although wouldn't oxys be pretty much the same as heroin?
I've never had opiates so I could be mistaken, but I thought the affects and the way it affected your body was virtually the same with opiates?

MDMA would've been great to see the driving for, you would bet the person would have a sick time, and I think the assembly of the box at the start would be fascinating to see people do it on LSD.
 
yes, but as you saw on the show, she smoked alot of heroin and she had the lungs of an 84 yr old they said. She failed the smoke/fire test cos of her lungs, but she went well in making the bookcase. lol. That may be why her or the stoner dude couldn't do the strength test, i dunno.

A man or woman who has never smoked and has used and or abused oxys for a while may have a totally differing outcome on tests. Or even a heroin user who only ever shoots up.

Or a ketamine user or any sort of other drugs, a crack smoker, just more subjects, different ages, and sexes and drugs, would all be interesting.

I've never had opiates so I could be mistaken
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I've never had heroin, but I had a cpl of oxys (like twice) and each time i felt sick and itchy, i didnt find it pleasant at all. I fucking hated it actually. Lyrica on the other hand, a few beers and 300mg of that was niiiice. lol.
 
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Thats a great point, but her heart was also aged 70 I think they said?
Which would be a more likely reason not to attempt the strength test and I'd imagine thats the drugs doing not the affect of smoking it.

The fire smoke/test though I agree with, I imagine with opiates they'd be okay in that type of situation but as I said, I've never tried opiates so I'm really just guessing based on what I imagine opiates feel like haha

But yes I'd definitely love to see more doco's like that with additional tests, drugs and subjects.

That cocaine addict was a bit of a laugh though just denying everything the doctor said it had done to his body on the inside, that was one arrogant bloke.
 
thestudent14 said:
This is a great documentary, it follows 4 people who each use different drugs. Cannabis, Meth, Cocaine and heroin and then they get put through supervised tasks, like driving and stuff. And it's hosted by Robin Wlliams ;)
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I was really pretty disappointed with this documentary. For starters it was ridiculous that they didn't even have a sober person peforming the tasks, secondly its not as if they actually controlled the dose that the drug users took and as everybody knows the amount you take is VERY relevant to the level of impairment it will cause. It was also stupid how they only had one user of each drug, as though thats enough to eliminate the element of the individuals aptitude towards certain tasks whether on drugs or not. I also think the whole house on fire task was pretty much a joke, especially for the stoner guy, its like if you were in a real fire and were stoned you would be anxious as fuck but in the context of that experiment I can't see it being anything but comical.

Probably what annoyed me the most was when they did the lifting task and one of the dudes on stimulants (I think the one on cocaine?) actually did better on drugs than sober and it just had to add something along the lines of "but its at the expense of cooking his insides" or some bullshit like that. Honestly to me I felt like it was pretty well set up to make drugs look bad and any time drugs didn't come out looking that bad they made sure to throw in a quick reminder of how unhealthy they are.

It was pretty enlightening to see the poor shape of the heroin users lungs because as far as I am aware there isn't heaps of data on the negative health impact of smoking chemical drugs. I really did feel as well though that they put a large focus on the poor condition of her lungs, because there probably isn't a great deal more physical problems caused by heroin they could point out. If you consider the relatively small percentage of regular heroin users who smoke (especially in north America) then its not really that relevant to most users or a real assessment of the drugs impact on the body.
 
^ I dunno dude, I see your points.
But I still found it pretty interesting,
The fire/smoke test was a bit stupid because obviously everyone knew they weren't in a real fire. It's a test that would be far more interesting with someone on shrooms.

I didn't get the feeling that it was trying to make drugs sound bad because these were all people who used frequently although I think doses definitely should have been monitored.
I think you're looking at this doco from the wrong point of view though, I viewed it as what happens to a body when a drug is abused and how it would affect day to day life being intoxicated on a daily basis, not whats expected at low doses. The "at the expense of cooking his insides" call I thought was a bit of a cheap shot too. But if they didn't say something negative to doing exercise on stimulants people would focus on the fact that you can lift more. It was good that it explained why he gained a strength boost on a biological level and say that it wasn't just because of the confidence boost.
 
^ I see what your saying but at the same time I don't see the majority of it as greatly interesting at looking at how drugs affect your body or day to day life. It doesn't give much history on the people, of which there are many factors outside of drug abuse which would influence their overall health as well as their aptitude for performing certain tasks. The whole thing just lacked any real validity in terms of valuable or relevant research as far as I am concerned. I concede the explanantion of how drugs work in the brain is probably interesting and enlightening to those not particularly educated on the subject but I just feel as an educated drug user the documentary offered little of interest and no credible information I wasn't already aware of.

You can argue that a cheap shot like the cooking insides comment is neccessary to balance the perspective, but they could easily talk about real consequences of stimulant use+strenuous exercise without using such sensationalist and propagandist terminology.

I agree it would be highly entertaining to watch someone on psychedelics in a fake house fire scenario, but if you consider that regular users of psychedelics are probably overall the most well educated about the effects of their drugs of choice and the large impact of set and setting on the psychedelic experience the odds of someone on mushrooms finding themselves in a house fire are probably less than that of a sober person.
 
70 I think they said?
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I'm pretty sure you are wrong. 84, i'll bet ya 50 buks? or a pill.. LOL

Jokes aside, they shoulda got ole Robby to do all the tasks as well.

...On all the drugs~! hehe.

39:24 is the spot, it's 84... It's only an estimate tho. No wonder she starts crying.
 
poledriver said:
I'm pretty sure you are wrong. 84, i'll bet ya 50 buks? or a pill.. LOL

Jokes aside, they shoulda got ole Robby to do all the tasks as well.

...On all the drugs~! hehe.

39:24 is the spot, it's 84... It's only an estimate tho. No wonder she starts crying.
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The lungs was 84% but I'm pretty sure they said around 70 for the heart. I could be mistaken and net is running to shit to bring up the doco again =(

And D_M I pretty much agree with your entire post =)
 
thestudent14 said:
The lungs was 84% but I'm pretty sure they said around 70 for the heart. I could be mistaken and net is running to shit to bring up the doco again =(

And D_M I pretty much agree with your entire post =)
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Ahh ok sorry i misread..Im not sure about the heart part without re-watching it. I was interested in the heroin smoker as i know a couple of chicks who have smoked heroin for many years in the city as they don't use needles and was wondering how their lungs are doing, as both of them smoke ciggies too.

Regarding supervising their use or measured doses, i don't really see the point as the show isn't for medical or government tests or stats, its for entertainment and some basic awareness value. Their either high or their not. I'd still watch other ones with other users doing different tests on differing drugs, like i dont mind watching other docos on people taking other substances...

Watched this last night, it's probably been mentioned earlier, im not sure... It's about several differing groups and individuals (mainly or all in england) who are taking coke or have done, and some medical bits too, one guy has a pacemaker in his heart from a coke induced heart attack when he is still really young (they say its pretty rare tho) and they show lots of coke and police busting users mainly low level street users at nightclubs and how they test people before entry into nightclubs sometimes in London and swabbing in and around at the pubs (like on tables and stuff)...I've never seen or heard of them doing that here, swabbing hands before entry (to a nightclub) or pool tables and stuff with a portable machine to see if there's any traces and grounds for further searches, they just use dogs as far as i know here.

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