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Drinking your own urine

^^ Yeah just kidding really on this topic which is a bit silly.
The theory behind all this urine and the passing of rec drugs is very interesting however and some of the crazy ideas on the topic are actually viable, again in theory.
ts interesting to consider but certainly not practical or safe. Also the dick in me wants to tell everybody who uses MDMA about this in the hopes they will try drinking their own urine, but i try suppress that part of me as much as possible lol.
 
I've 'recycled' after a peyote trip before. Works pretty well and didn't taste too bad after the cactus.

IIRC about 20 - 50% of the mescaline is passed unmetabolized.
 
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I was coming down when I drank my urine. It worked to extend the high a few hours longer.

Urine is not that vile. Just like many other things it has a modern social stigma attached to it. It could save your life one day unless you are too precious to suck it up and down it.
 
I first learned about it when reading about Siberian mushroom shamans who drink their urine, or the urine of reindeers after ingesting Amanita muscaria mushrooms as the toxic ibotenic acid is metabolised but the muscimol is excreted intact. As insane as it sounds, urine is relatively sterile and assuming one has a reasonably healthy diet and hasn't ingested a variety of drugs, its non toxic and relatively safe. The drug I have in mind at the moment is gabapentin. It has a very low bioavailability and the body does not metabolise it at all, it is excreted by the kidneys intact. Other polar drugs like amphetamine are also largely excreted unmetabolised. Then there are drugs which have active final metabolites (i.e. morphine-6-glucoronide). Morphine has other metabolites (i.e. morphine-3-glucoronide) so I don't know if this would work in that case. For gabapentin, I'm positive it would work.

After researching it a bit, I see theres actually an alternative medicine practice called urophagia or urine therapy. I know I'm gonna be flamed for this but I just went ahead and did it. I pissed in a bottle and drank it. I tasted it first and surprisingly, it just tasted like water with a bit of saltiness to it. It felt too weird drinking it straight so I added some citric acid and it tasted just like lemonade. I know how insane it sounds but if its good enough for Siberian mushroom shamans, its good enough for me.

OK....but with amanitas, as I interpret it from literature-"after the toxic ibotenic acid is metabolised into muscimol, the muscimol is 5x as potent as the more toxic ibotenic acid,thus in theory the recycled urine should be more potent than the mushroom itself----which justifies recyling the urine. This is not just recouping a small percentage,but actually getting back more than was put in!
Some literature mentions this can be done up to 7x , which further infers this is not just recouping a percentage each time, but rather a different scenario , in regards to the amanitas genara of this species.
 
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How did ADD become the piss-drinking capital of the internet?

Actually, with the possible exception of some paraphilia-focused forum, I bet Bluelight has more serious discussion of urine drinking than anywhere else online.
 
OK....but with amanitas, as I interpret it from literature-"after the toxic ibotenic acid is metabolised into muscimol, the muscimol is 5x as potent as the more toxic ibotenic acid,thus in theory the recycled urine should be more potent than the mushroom itself


Um... no.
Are you sure what potent means?

Your urine is diluted with tons of other toxins and lots of water. Muscimol may come out at nanograms per litre. The mushroom itself may not be all that potent as plants go- but it beats the hell out of nanograms per litre.
 
I was coming down when I drank my urine. It worked to extend the high a few hours longer.

Urine is not that vile. Just like many other things it has a modern social stigma attached to it. It could save your life one day unless you are too precious to suck it up and down it.

I like the way you think. Social stigmas preconceptions should be replaced with independent logical thinking and unbiased risk reward analysis for all decision making.
 
There are social stigmas against some things for good reasons. Drinking urine and fecal matter is a bad idea for a reason.
 
There are social stigmas against some things for good reasons. Drinking urine and fecal matter is a bad idea for a reason.

Yes but in those cases the mentioned risk reward analysis would identify and disqualify them.
 
Okay. We need to steer back to a technical discussion of extraction of alkaloids from urine and/or factors contributing to the health effects of drinking urine. I'm as entertained as the next guy, but I think we're actually running into PandS type territory with this discussion of the validity of social stigma.

ebola
 
Yes, but I believe there's a reason we seem biologically programmed to avoid urine and feces.

And Ebola?- do you think there's a lot of discussion to be had on that subject? It seems all conjecture and speculation.

Whatever benefit could be had from recycling drugs would be minimal without extensive concentration and preferably purification.

And like it was said before, the risk:reward ratio isn't favorable (or perhaps effort:reward, but that's not that different).
 
From a wastewater engineering view point, faeces and urine are seen as pretty similar. In fact from a consumption view point, wouldn't most sane people see faeces and urine as a no-go? Seems like common sense. It is waste!! Your body is getting rid of it. Go buy some more drugs ffs
 
I did it for awhile for health reasons, as an experiment. First piss of the day, mid stream... Not much.

I didn't feel any worse, and it woke me up. Honestly, I think I felt better.
 
More on this subject -

I recall some towns in Switzerland and Italy (I think it was those 2) use analysis of sewage streams to determine public drug consumption levels by observing the presence of metagbolites. Unsuprisingly, they found usage picked up on holidays and weekends, I think.
 
Drinking your own or a healthy persons urine is quite safe, provided you get your hydration from some other source.
 
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