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DPT + RIMA oral/nasal - sorta new to DPT - Good stuff.

yaesutom

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150mg Moclobemide / RIMA (reversable inhibitior of MAO A)
"few hours later" 35-40mg oral DPT in gelcap.
"above"+"long enough to feel it but know it was not enough" 85-95mg more DPT in half of a gelcap and some juice.
T + 1:00 after above - 50mg up the nose.

Incredible stuff this DPT..

So around...4:00-4:20am (got from msg window), i measure and take between 85-95mg orally, this time with the top of gelcap left off, and washed it down with some juice, just in case it would absorb quicker. I had felt the 35-40mg from earlier but seemed to just be a lil taste. I don't remember how much time after..can only guess..an hour, hour and a 1/2 after.

Well it seems the next time I made any 'notes' in the IM window was around

(4:44:13 AM): wow.. i wasn't gonna say anything, cause well i wasn't expecting much, and blah, - anyway, took a moclobemide earlier... took 39mg oral dpt edit: typed some wierd stuff so who knows why i put 39mg, which didnt do shit, so, another...85-95mg this next time, and WOW DUDE!

(4:44:31 AM): these visuals are so fucking awesome, i've not seen things like this wowowowow

(4:44:35 AM): like, shit
(4:44:52 AM): things lifting off the desk, my shades sliding up and down,
(4:45:08 AM): and i just watched the letters ...woww
(4:45:11 AM): they do what i say
(4:45:19 AM): this is so incredible
(4:45:48 AM): do i have this much control over my reality holy shitfucker !
(4:46:29 AM): it hit good, fast, vibrations.... i feel great, and these visuals are just, i've never seen anything like this..

(4:46:57 AM): i mean, typing letters now, when i type the words tilt tilt tilt whoaslkasdlkjf wowowow , they fucking tilt!

(4:49:46 AM): lol i'm still able to carry on a convo, even with that jesus, when i think about it too much there it goes hahaha

(4:50:39 AM): i was going to say, even when my blinds in the window are going up and down, and the computer is now smilying at me, and, i can't explain that one.. the mouse just great 4x size,

(4:50:44 AM): grew
(4:50:59 AM): i had something to say, now i forgot, dammit
(4:51:53 AM): lol, ok, i'll be here, exploring this ....wonderful stuff i should have gotten much more of..

(4:53:32 AM): i need to do a trip report after this, might as well keep typing in the im window if anything, no way i'm gonna open up notepad or something when the fucking knobs on everything, start SPINNING fast, a face just jumped out of nowhere very vivid but it was a flash...what time is it...T+...

(4:55:40 AM): well since i can't figure out when i ate it i'm guessing an hour or so (the 90mg)., so from 4am i'll go...hehe so its around t+an hour, i did eat that 30mg before also. This comes in waves..

(5:00:01 AM): damn its a shortie, well i guess i took whats considered low, i'm still getting some really odd, odd great visuals though

When I seem to come down sort of fast, enough to be able to use a scale so I can insufflate some:

(5:08:56 AM): 50mg up..minute or less ago, starting to feel something, feels the same as how the vision is pulsing or doing its thing. Ouch i hate snorting anything...drip. coming up fast...

(5:13:46 AM): well maybe not fast!? strange stuff, but i bet as soon as i start typing about it, typing what words are in my head i guess, yup there goes that window again, lllllllllllllllll now that loooks cuuurvy, strange visuals seem to just pop out of nowhere, or things will be still, and that word "looooks" just underlined itself, so strange, mouse just suddenly grows big real fast, things look like they are vibrating on the desk behind me, like, just one cup, but then nothing else,

--- The visuals I was getting, were so amazing and unique. It was like my thoughts were directly tied to what I saw. Typing some thing like 'it looks like that letter might turn", well by the time i get to the word likes, not only the letter turned already but tons of letters were already done 'doing their thing', like it was doing ...what my english word thoughts were sort of going to lead to eventually..
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(5:16:34 AM): ....................................oooooooooooooo
(5:16:58 AM): now that does some funky, and even funkier shit, and even ok better stop

(5:17:13 AM): just typing that, its like an immediate response
(5:17:23 AM): do the twist..
(5:17:50 AM): twist and jiggle some more and more and..........more.........dddldldldldddaallllllllll wowowowowow
(5:17:58 AM): crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The person on the other side of AIM then typed this:

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(5:18:39 AM): I just fucking made a camera LIFT OFF THE DESK, i mean it looked as real as....well...real

(5:18:43 AM): oh god!
(5:19:00 AM): that right there is suckin me in shit! lollol, i love this
(5:19:27 AM): did you design that, i mean holy fuck,
(5:19:32 AM): hahaha i'm kidding but wow
(5:19:49 AM): i'm closer to a peak...room vibrating..

Then the other person sent this (hopefully it'll show up right on BL:
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(5:20:35 AM): wow. - i need to bring up some gemetry..sahh sacred geometry shit now
(5:20:40 AM): that looks like dha
(5:21:00 AM): dna, and then the whole fuckin room looks like dna ,
(5:22:29 AM): beautiful..
(5:23:22 AM): wow
(5:23:30 AM): i'm seeing...fuck...??
(5:23:34 AM): entites??
(5:23:49 AM): first time ever for this if thats what this is
(5:24:12 AM): first i saw a face, then lll...yeah....um..yeah.
(5:25:07 AM): this tops all previous psy. exp.'s, and i dont know if --this is it yet, no it isn't because as i just typed that, i made it not it

^^ I was meaning, I thought I was going down fast, until..i typed that

(5:28:14 AM): deeper than anything else
(5:31:54 AM): just even going TOWARDS an idea, like wanting to do wahtever to whatever visual thingiedo, its like, my brain already figured out where i was going towards, and then, did it.
(5:34:29 AM): if i've ever seen visuals like that ever, it must have been a long long time ago, because i dont remember it. Synthesia...
(5:38:18 AM): god the trails are so vivid and clear, looking right there at your short term memory or whatever, man behind "all this" its like i see a "dpt world" or i dont know what to call it, but its behind normal vision, made up of ...thingieedoobopers, that, do a thingajiggaling ever - deep...

Sorry for the uh, boring trip report, but hey, haven't seen THAT much about moclobemide + DPT and wanted to try some orally.

I am not sure if i've seen visuals like THAT before. I've maybe seen equally crazier shit, but not like that.. visuals so odd and very much linked to ..what I was thinking about with the visuals. Can't really explain the "difference", the clarity of them, when a sentence would just suddenly "bend" or warp, or when that DNA was twisting around and then the whole room had twisting DNA. I have only experienced "weak" doses of DPT without MAOI before. Well now I know that DPT vibrating feeling, strange. I really loved it but I think a higher oral dose plus the MAOI next time, and just in case its not enough, have some ready to snort at the peak, even though i HATE putting shit up my nose. If i will need it, for some kind of breakthrough maybe, I dont think i'll mind if i'm "peaking" or near that.

I remember looking around the room and for a split second, seeing "eyes", or a face, not like a lot of trips where some patterns on something might resemble a face, uh, different somehow..?

I know this seems to lean more toward, the visuals I was getting, but to me, they were very "deep" and "psychedelic" and meant more than visuals. Strange ideas about how my mental thoughts at the time, or more like, the visuals were ahead of my thoughts..ah.. incredible. Lots of sudden things, like a light fixture being still and suddenly bending way down or growing real big/small, for a second then stopping. Lots of shit I can't explain but always love to try to :)

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Well if anyone has any suggestions for my next time with this, regarding the Moclobemide (maybe I should take it an hour before, instead of 3+ hours?) or the oral way of doing this let me know. It took some time to hit, but when I started feeling it, it seemed to come on real fast. I could also just make a couple large lines, largish dose, and put it up my nose all at once. I'm thinking the MAOI/oral, and having a snortable bit ready for me already, right before peaking, if i dare choose, would be better. I wonder if the ~35mg I took before that did barely anything orally, had an effect with tolerance. Also since i was coming down off oral dose, (couldn't use the scale peaking!) is when I had then insufflated more. (tolerance from the oral?)

Anyway I often end up writing reports, if at all, after an experience I never expected to want to write one about, so this is probably boring but hell.. the visuals were so awesome, I just had to post something. Quite a 'vibrating' head trip also. I didnt trip TOO HARD though, good but, stronger just seemed like it would be so much more interesting, from what else i've read on DPT.
 
I'm eager to try DPT orally with a MAOI sometime as well, I think the trip will be much "friendlier" as opposed to snorting it, it hits you just a little too fast that way, plus the nasty drip just get's in the way of the trip..
 
I as well would be interested in trying this.... I have tried insufflating around 70mg and then smoking 10x Syrian Rue extract about 20 minutes after that.... no words to describe. A mystical experience at it's finest.
 
Hmmm, interesting. Sounds visually incredible. So how long did the trip last? What were the body effects like? From what I understand the mental effects from insufflating DPT are often described as being very intense, how were the mental effects with this method?
 
Facinating. My oral DPT/MAOI experience was very different. I experienced visions (read...not visuals), but it was all much more dream-like. Of course, I use harmala alkaloids and I'd imagine they color/change the experience dramatically. I've read that moclobemide gives a more "pure" experience. It does not add any content of it's own.
 
Ahh, its hard to figure out how long it lasted, but it really did not seem long. I had no idea I would get, well such a cool experience, can't emphasize enough "the VISUALS"!

I remember, even during around the peak, I did feel quite 'sedated', meaning really I might have been able to lay down and sleep (I did close my eyes but not for that long, but didnt see any CEV's) but I fought to stay awake, of course. As for my body and the rest of me, it felt the same as when i've snorted low amounts of DPT before, just..kinda nice :) Although this time being more intense, there was that 'vibration' thing going on, came in waves, things in my vision would resonate to it (like the cup on a desk vibrating, while everything else is normal) and i "felt" I was resonating with it. Nothing scary.

MGS - what can you describe about your visions? I had a few instances where, when moving my head or something, I clearly would see ...like a giant face with eyes, that really had nothing to do with whatever I was looking at (other than being there, it didnt move with my eyes). Most of the time I just perceived 'eyes' ..a few times more when looking around.

The most, craziest, visuals, were really looking/typing on the computer, and the crazy crazy awesome things individual letters would do, or just a single word, or one sentence a paragraph above... 2 icons out of 10 suddenly rotating fast.. very very different than normal tryptamine or PEA visuals that i've seen. Knobs suddenly rotating real fast, then stopping. Looked at my digital camera on the desk and saw it dancing, and one circle-shaped 'knob' on it, was just turning around and around.. then boom its all still. Often it would be something in the peripheral vision, everything is still, then the door would go from no movement to, suddenly growing very fast in size or shrinking.

The best part, was, whenever I 'thought' about these visuals, I would affect them greatly, and it seemed like they were "affected" before I got to thinking "i wonder if that would do that". Or maybe I had already came up with what I was going to 'think' in words and so when i started thinking in english that wasn't needed for the visual stuff because it was already "decided".

Mentally, i was in a good mood I did notice some noises would make me jump, sounded 'louder', or i was just more sensitive. No distortions though. I wouldn't want to go out in public on this, or other people around unless friends that were using it too/or knew what i was doing - or have a nice sign on me that says i'm high and don't worry if i'm acting a little crazy/etc. :) I kept getting distracted, thoughts linked to visuals, and they were so vivid I couldn't ignore them, a long train of thought was hard to remember going along. New thought leads to more thoughts, oh yeah reminds me of some other thought...forgot what the thought was just seconds ago or how it started.. that kinda thing.

Yeah it was odd I thought how the oral dose (the bigger one), took a while to start but then boom, it came fast, not AS fast as snorting, but close enough, maybe a tad smoother. Dropped down fast when it was done too.

--- I remember when I wrote on the IM about entities, well, its so hard to describe.. I doubt it, but I think that was soon after I saw a flash of a face, and well, it really did 'feel' like someone else was there, and i actually looked around real quick to see. Hard to describe..whatever I was seeing at the time, was affecting my thoughts (just like thoughts affecting vision). Feeling like something was gonna appear and start chatting with me or something, it went away fast though. Everything seemed "sped up" (the trip), like my mind was going pretty fast.

I think I have plenty more left for a nice, big oral dose..not for a while though.. I do want to do more reading on it before then, reports and doses and such, and I do think not putting it in a capsule (or at least, leaving the top off like i did for the 2nd bigger dose) does make it faster.. I think I read MGS saying that with DPT on here somewhere.. I know for me, 4-HO-MIPT dissolved in some water/then mixed with a lot of OJ, and slammed down, had me thinking "oh shit" in less than 10 mins.

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A little note..
I've been taking the OTC 'supplement' whatever ya wanna call it, "SAM-e" or S-adenosyl-L-methionine. There were some boxes around the house, actually for a dog - not used so I decided to take about 200-400-600mg's a day. I really noticed a big mood lift and other things, so i'm still taking it.

Its some kind of methyl doner, and i've read but never any reports or anything like that, about SAM and MAOI and some other tryptamines making some psychoactive effects. Who knows, you know? :) All I know is i feel great on it, hehe. Just thought I would add that.
 
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I know for me, 4-HO-MIPT dissolved in some water/then mixed with a lot of OJ, and slammed down, had me thinking "oh shit" in less than 10 mins.

I know what you mean. 4-HO-MiPT is by far the fastest acting orally active thing I've ever experienced. I felt it no more than 5 minutes after I swallowed it.

Have you tried any combo's lately with that particular MAOI?
 
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Yes I have tried 75mg moclobemide + about 1.23g of mushrooms to potentiate it and it seemed to work.

Also i've tried it with oral 5-meo-dmt and it worked fine also (for me).
 
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