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DPT & Other Drugs - variety in experiences - Group Experiment

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DPT & Other Drugs - variety in experiences

Here's a dream of mine:

There were four subjects to be insufflating DPT hcl powder. I've had two encounters with DPT before this one and subject number two had taken DPT once. Subject 3 and 4 had never taken DPT before, but had some experience with psychedelics. All had taken other mind altering substances the same night.

Subject one (me) : I had ingested around 0,5mg of buprenorphine, three beers and a few drinks. Before the DPT I was coming "down" from both alcohol and buprenorphine, which caused me to be irritable and I had a headache. To combat this, I took some non-CNS-affecting pain medication. Also, cannabis had been smoked at some point.
DPT DOSE: 50mg

Subject two: He had ingested alcohol, cannabis and d-amphetamine.
DPT DOSE: 50mg

Subject three: He had also ingested alcohol, cannabis and d-amphetamine.
DPT DOSE: 25mg

Subject four: She was under the influence of alcohol and possibly cannabis and amphetamine.
DPT DOSE: 25mg


After insufflating my dose I was suprised that the burn was a lot worse than after taking 25mg's. Also, this time the drip was horrible.
Everyone started tripping pretty much 10-15 mins after insufflating their doses.

Other people in the group (on speed and alcohol) wanted to go to a bar, but I knew that soon I would be in no condition to deal with drunken people in a bar. Everyone left the house anyway. Outside I knew I was in for a rough comeup, because the drip of the DPT gave me nausea, and I'm sure the alcohol and buprenorphine weren't helping me with that.

Visual distortions (small bumps in the road looking like canyons etc.) were obvious, and after getting up to go to a car to get a stereo for some music listening I vomited hard. This had never happened to me on lower doses of DPT (around 25mg). Subject three and I started coming up so strong we just had to sit in a car and wish we'd survive, while subject two was "on fire" so to speak and he just wanted to go to the bar and trip his balls out, and subject four was having little effects. After subject two and four left to the bar with the "non-tripping group", there was me (subject one), subject three and one other person left in the parking lot.

Subject three and I ended up having a very difficult experience. I was having real trouble keeping the contents of my stomache in and subject three was fighting to remain in the world of the sane. He was totally suprised by the power of the DPT comeup even though he had taken LSD and mushrooms before. It was obvious he was scared. I was also having a difficult time trying not to panic and also talking to a relatively sober person and trying to explain to him that he had to be our "trip sitter" for the duration of the trip because I and subject three were as helpless as a three year old child would be in a parking lot in the dark. This was pretty hard but I knew what the mind game while tripping is all about and I remained relatively calm not psyching myself in to a "bad trip". I was sweating like crazy and I was cold at the same time. Everything was melting and all things had the classic unreal touch to them.

Eventually we made it out of the car back to the house where we started and I knew things would get better after this. I said to my buddy (subject three) who was still freaking out from the comeup that we were going to trip now and enjoy it, damn it. This slightly improved the mood for the both of us and soon crazy babbling followed for an hour or two while the DPT slowly started fading. I noticed a strange vibration that I couldn't really describe; I wasn't sure if my heart was pounding really fast or if I was just shaking from the inside. This shaking might have been the DPT-shakes many people get (I have never witnessed it in myself or others) or the shaking was because of the drop in my blood sugar levels after vomiting.

Subject number 2 had an intese experience in the bar where he experienced the classic "infinite wisdom" episode many experience, but he had no prior knowledge of this illusion of knowing it all and understanding the deeper meaning of everything and everyone. That's why he was pretty excited about it and the speed he had taked obviously increased his need to share his revelations to everyone.

Subject number four only had mild audio distortions and some general weirdness, but nothing really "DPT-like". She didn't talk too much about her experience, though, so I might have missed something she experienced. She seemed not too impressed though.

Why I wanted to write this trip report is that four different people have ingested DPT before while NOT on alcohol or amphetamines and that time the experience was pretty much the same for everyone.
This time when other drugs were in our systems, everyone had very different experiences on the drug.
Obviously many things like the different settings and different moods of the four subjects affected the trips, but the variation was still very noticeable compared to other DPT trips I've had with people.

It is a good thing I experienced this trip because it once again made me respect the importance of the "set&setting"-rule. I knew I should respect that rule and I knew this trip would be intense and propably not comfortable but I took the drug anyway.

Now that I've had a rough experience and survived it (I've had one difficult experience that affected me for months afterwards so I'm happy I didn't slip in to panic mode this time) I have no reason to take hallucinogens again while on alcohol or especially while coming down from alcohol or in a setting where I'm not comfortable or where there are other factors at play that might give me some nasty suprises.

Remember kids, respect the drugs and respect yourselves! :)
 
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DPT is an incredibly insightful psychadelic...it has tought me much. it should be taken with much respect, for its effects are quite powerful. nice report...
 
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Like I said in a other post..I took 75-100 mg of DPT and 2 pills and I thought I was going to die..the visuals and audio were so strong they all were negtive..I was told by a person that i was going..and the person wasnt really there..I dunno if the mixture caused this or just the DPT but it all alsted 17 hrs..I def sisnt like this trip
 
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RaverEMT said:
I dunno if the mixture caused this or just the DPT but it all alsted 17 hrs..I def sisnt like this trip

That was definately because of the pills. As you propably know normally DPT starts coming down somewhere around the t+2h mark.

2c-i with DPT made the DPT last longer and also the 2c-i felt like it lasted longer; I had still had some "psychedelic energy" left around t+11h. But that time the setting influenced the experience very much. I took a low dose (10mg) of 2c-i and ~25mg of DPT but the experience was quite strong. DPT brought the visuals and the "mindfuck" and 2c-i brought euphoria and energy. A very nice combo for a fun experience in the right mindset and company.
 
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