NeighborhoodThreat
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I experience this as well, with even lower doses. I have a feeling it has something to do with how DPH totally screws with acetylcholine function/transmission.
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I experience this as well, with even lower doses. I have a feeling it has something to do with how DPH totally screws with acetylcholine function/transmission.
I've never taken diphenhydramine to hallucinate, or get high, but go through extended periods of using it for sleep. I usually dose around 50mg, but sometimes as high as 100mg when sleep just isn't happening. How is this relevant? Well even those comparably low doses can make me feel shitty in a variety of ways... tingly skin (?), irregular heart shit such as fast and or irregular heart beat, bad dry mouth etc. Again I have no experience with what you're talking about, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this leads.
With that said, most people go for like 300mgs or so to reach the threshold of effects that you're wanting
With that said, most people go for like 300mgs or so to reach the threshold of effects that you're wanting
StaySedated
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stay away from DPH, just stay away...
MyWayIsTheHighWay
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I've been trying to "trip", but don't want to over do it. How long does it take for DPH kick in? How long is the whole "trip"
At what is a a dangerous dose? I asked because i take some, feel nothin, Then take more, feel slight effects... I'm worried Im gunna overdose. is DPH like mushrooms in that you can't baby step into them. If you took more a couple hours later it wouldn't hit u as hard because of an instant tolerance effect.
I'm 5'10, 170lbs, I'm 23, I'm a white male. Would 1000mg(600 then 400 3 hours after initial dose be enough to cause significant damage to my body
At what is a a dangerous dose? I asked because i take some, feel nothin, Then take more, feel slight effects... I'm worried Im gunna overdose. is DPH like mushrooms in that you can't baby step into them. If you took more a couple hours later it wouldn't hit u as hard because of an instant tolerance effect.
I'm 5'10, 170lbs, I'm 23, I'm a white male. Would 1000mg(600 then 400 3 hours after initial dose be enough to cause significant damage to my body
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NeighborhoodThreat
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1000mg total is too much.
You'll start feeling "trip" effects (not actually tripping) at between 200-300mg.
In my earlier post I said I wouldn't go higher than 1000mg, but I'm changing that, I wouldn't go higher than 500mg. You can "baby step" into them.
DPH trips are horrible experiences and they're not psychedelic, I don't see very much of anything being gained from the experience.
Use the lowest dose possible. 1000mg is dangerous.
You'll start feeling "trip" effects (not actually tripping) at between 200-300mg.
In my earlier post I said I wouldn't go higher than 1000mg, but I'm changing that, I wouldn't go higher than 500mg. You can "baby step" into them.
DPH trips are horrible experiences and they're not psychedelic, I don't see very much of anything being gained from the experience.
Use the lowest dose possible. 1000mg is dangerous.
sekio
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DPH is not a "trip". End of story.
NeighborhoodThreat
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^What this man said.
It's not a psychedelic experience, its a nightmare experience. These two things are polar opposites. I feel amazing, reborn, reset, and fresh, like I'm experiencing everything for the first time all over again after I have psychedelic experiences.
I've only done a high dose of DPH once but I absolutely hated myself for the 48 hours afterwords and felt dead, foggy and psychotic. The opposite of the after-effects of psychedelics.
It's not a psychedelic experience, its a nightmare experience. These two things are polar opposites. I feel amazing, reborn, reset, and fresh, like I'm experiencing everything for the first time all over again after I have psychedelic experiences.
I've only done a high dose of DPH once but I absolutely hated myself for the 48 hours afterwords and felt dead, foggy and psychotic. The opposite of the after-effects of psychedelics.
NeighborhoodThreat
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It is possible that you have a natural tolerance to diphenhydramine. You also may have developed one, it sounds like you've been using high doses quite often recently. For all we know, it could be a combination of these two factors. Since you took 600mg and nothing happened, I doubt anything would happen if you took 800mg. It's very hard to tell you exactly what would happen. In fact, its impossible.
If I were you man, I would stop taking diphenhydramine for a while. I understand you want to get away from what's going on but using deliriant drugs such as diphenhydramine to do so is very, very dangerous and nothing positive will come after the effects wear off. If you're looking for a psychedelic experience, which, at least to me, it sounds like you are, I recommend researching into using a real psychedelic such as mushrooms or LSD.
Not saying you should do them tomorrow or anything, but you should do some research about psychedelic drugs (the Psychedelic Drugs Beginner's FAQ is a great place to start as well as the Wikipedia page for Psychedelic Drugs vs. their page for Deliriant/Anticholinergic Drugs)
If I were you man, I would stop taking diphenhydramine for a while. I understand you want to get away from what's going on but using deliriant drugs such as diphenhydramine to do so is very, very dangerous and nothing positive will come after the effects wear off. If you're looking for a psychedelic experience, which, at least to me, it sounds like you are, I recommend researching into using a real psychedelic such as mushrooms or LSD.
Not saying you should do them tomorrow or anything, but you should do some research about psychedelic drugs (the Psychedelic Drugs Beginner's FAQ is a great place to start as well as the Wikipedia page for Psychedelic Drugs vs. their page for Deliriant/Anticholinergic Drugs)
EU4RIK
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for me when i did it (about 135 lbs) i did 300mg every time i did it (benadryl, 12 of them) and that was all i needed. as for the feeling, i find with dramamine its less hallucinations, shitty body load and the likes but with benadryl you get less body load, still god awful dry mouth but by the time your fully into "it" you dont really care too much.
as for the hallucinations everyone seems to have bad experiences with spiders and creatures that scare them but i never did with it. to be honest mine weren't that bad i remember sitting in my bed, thinking i was walking down to the bus stop and talking to my sister, "woke up" and saw my sister in my room, we talked for a bit and she was gone, the whole thing a harmless hallucination that i could do nothing but chuckle at, i also had the song heart of gold playing but the disc skipped on the harmonica part, thought i was listening to lucy in the sky the whole time
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i kind of enjoyed it while i tried it i guess,(with benadryl that is, i cant say the same for dramamine) it was interesting to say the least and if you want to try it then i would recommend a place where you can sit/lay down, without any interuptions or chances of it whatsoever (maybe your bedroom with the door shut, musics completely optional i dont feel it would change much though). i doubt taking 300mg will do very much damage if at all.
as for the hallucinations everyone seems to have bad experiences with spiders and creatures that scare them but i never did with it. to be honest mine weren't that bad i remember sitting in my bed, thinking i was walking down to the bus stop and talking to my sister, "woke up" and saw my sister in my room, we talked for a bit and she was gone, the whole thing a harmless hallucination that i could do nothing but chuckle at, i also had the song heart of gold playing but the disc skipped on the harmonica part, thought i was listening to lucy in the sky the whole time
.i kind of enjoyed it while i tried it i guess,(with benadryl that is, i cant say the same for dramamine) it was interesting to say the least and if you want to try it then i would recommend a place where you can sit/lay down, without any interuptions or chances of it whatsoever (maybe your bedroom with the door shut, musics completely optional i dont feel it would change much though). i doubt taking 300mg will do very much damage if at all.
jhjhsdi
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Captain.Heroin
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Based upon what people who have tried this have told me, I wouldn't ever use DPH again, at any dosage.
250-300mg will provide hallucinations, but you will know they are hallucinations and not real, its when you start going above that, you get the black outs, forgetting you've taken them, and start thinking the hallucinations are real, and they more intense.
I was curious once and took 300mg, i did get some pretty convincing hallucinations but at this level i was able to know that they were hallucinations, i didnt get delerious.
I would start there, it wouldnt be too hard on the body at that dose either. once you start going above that it can get real scary as you go into complete delerium, and its very bad for your heart etc too.
I was curious once and took 300mg, i did get some pretty convincing hallucinations but at this level i was able to know that they were hallucinations, i didnt get delerious.
I would start there, it wouldnt be too hard on the body at that dose either. once you start going above that it can get real scary as you go into complete delerium, and its very bad for your heart etc too.
M3thadone Madn3ss
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Had cancer in 2007, and had an amputation.
After trying every major opiate, we settled on daily methadone. Also they put me on dilaudid for breakthrough pain. They would also push IV DPH when I started to feel sick, with reglin.
After being on the opiates for 3 years, I stopped cold. It was very easy to stop taking it, even cold turkey.
I've been struggling to stop taking Benadryl for around 4 years. Most people can't stand the effects DPH brings. For me, it feels a hundred times better than the rush from dilaudid, with the added bonus of lasting for closer to 5 hours than dilaudid's 1 hour of relief.
It's a drug that builds a tolerance very quickly. I was taking it at doses near 250mg when I started, as I had already build up tolerance from the hospital. In order to continue being on the nod, I had to keep increasing my dose. At times I was taking up to 1200mg, split into a first does, and a boost when I felt myself coming down a few hours later.
These doses would bring intense audio hallucinations, which would sometimes be delusions until I looked for the sound and realized it was the DPH. The visual hallucinations were almost always peripheral, vanishing when I turned to look at them. I would begin sentence in the middle, as well as answering questions no one had asked. If I found myself a bit and could actually communicate with someone, mid sentence I would completely jump tracks and say things that made no sense. "Yeah man, we have some beer in the fridge, cause pieces of the couch are dirty." Shit like that.
I would also space out and loose the connection between my brain and eyes, having more what I would call Lucid dreams than hallucinations. Even though I was staring at the wall, I would be 100% inside my head. These periods could last for up to an hour.
I have attempted to drop it many many times. If I cold turkey it, I start to be violently nauseous, and tell myself that I can just take a couple to take the edge off. As soon as those couple start working and I feel the watered down effects of the larger doses, my self control goes out the window. I know most people don't believe you can become physically addicted to DPH, but that's untrue. Many times I started feeling nauseous and don't have any idea why until I remember I hadn't taken and DPH in the past couple of days.
It's also a very effective escape for me, because I'm an introvert. I take 15-20 pills twice a day, but I'm able to function at work as an IT guy, even though I usually stay buzzed the entire time I'm there.
I've spent quite a bit of time researching benadryl's effects on the body, and if there were any known long term side effects, as well as asking two different doctors. They told me that if I had to make a habit of using a drug, Benadryl was a pretty safe choice.
There is some discussion about long term use causing long term memory problems (at best) and dimentia (at worst). It may cause ulcers as well.
To close, DPH is one of those drugs that is only enjoyed by a small percentage. Trying it out won't be dangerous, but I agree with other posters about having a trip-sitter the first time to make sure you get through it without damage to yourself or others.
I'm a 5'11" male, weighing about 145 pounds (Before surgery, more like 160)
The LD50 of benadryl in rats is 500mg / Kg
This is only based on toxicity though, and doesn't take into account any problems a large dose could start in your internal organs.
Starting at a dose around 300mg is a safe way to get a benchmark. Then make small changes, no bigger than 100mg at a time. I believe the enjoyment only exists in a small window, and you have to find it for yourself.
Hope this helps,
Be safe
After trying every major opiate, we settled on daily methadone. Also they put me on dilaudid for breakthrough pain. They would also push IV DPH when I started to feel sick, with reglin.
After being on the opiates for 3 years, I stopped cold. It was very easy to stop taking it, even cold turkey.
I've been struggling to stop taking Benadryl for around 4 years. Most people can't stand the effects DPH brings. For me, it feels a hundred times better than the rush from dilaudid, with the added bonus of lasting for closer to 5 hours than dilaudid's 1 hour of relief.
It's a drug that builds a tolerance very quickly. I was taking it at doses near 250mg when I started, as I had already build up tolerance from the hospital. In order to continue being on the nod, I had to keep increasing my dose. At times I was taking up to 1200mg, split into a first does, and a boost when I felt myself coming down a few hours later.
These doses would bring intense audio hallucinations, which would sometimes be delusions until I looked for the sound and realized it was the DPH. The visual hallucinations were almost always peripheral, vanishing when I turned to look at them. I would begin sentence in the middle, as well as answering questions no one had asked. If I found myself a bit and could actually communicate with someone, mid sentence I would completely jump tracks and say things that made no sense. "Yeah man, we have some beer in the fridge, cause pieces of the couch are dirty." Shit like that.
I would also space out and loose the connection between my brain and eyes, having more what I would call Lucid dreams than hallucinations. Even though I was staring at the wall, I would be 100% inside my head. These periods could last for up to an hour.
I have attempted to drop it many many times. If I cold turkey it, I start to be violently nauseous, and tell myself that I can just take a couple to take the edge off. As soon as those couple start working and I feel the watered down effects of the larger doses, my self control goes out the window. I know most people don't believe you can become physically addicted to DPH, but that's untrue. Many times I started feeling nauseous and don't have any idea why until I remember I hadn't taken and DPH in the past couple of days.
It's also a very effective escape for me, because I'm an introvert. I take 15-20 pills twice a day, but I'm able to function at work as an IT guy, even though I usually stay buzzed the entire time I'm there.
I've spent quite a bit of time researching benadryl's effects on the body, and if there were any known long term side effects, as well as asking two different doctors. They told me that if I had to make a habit of using a drug, Benadryl was a pretty safe choice.
There is some discussion about long term use causing long term memory problems (at best) and dimentia (at worst). It may cause ulcers as well.
To close, DPH is one of those drugs that is only enjoyed by a small percentage. Trying it out won't be dangerous, but I agree with other posters about having a trip-sitter the first time to make sure you get through it without damage to yourself or others.
I'm a 5'11" male, weighing about 145 pounds (Before surgery, more like 160)
The LD50 of benadryl in rats is 500mg / Kg
This is only based on toxicity though, and doesn't take into account any problems a large dose could start in your internal organs.
Starting at a dose around 300mg is a safe way to get a benchmark. Then make small changes, no bigger than 100mg at a time. I believe the enjoyment only exists in a small window, and you have to find it for yourself.
Hope this helps,
Be safe
stranger1187
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I find it helps to not just 'use diphenhydramine', as in, just use it to get high so, oh you know, to see stuff or hear stuff. Dph is an amazing substance that, given the right state of mind, can work for you or against you. I take a bit of Dph quite often. It empowers me creatively. I was creative for years before I started using dph. Since I have used dph, it has become part of the creative process for me. Call it addcition if you will. I told myself that I will stop using it if it endangers my ability to make it to work on time. So far, in over 5 years, it has not. The only person you should ever ask 'should i use dph, how much, how often' is yourself. If you have trouble asking yourself, I would advise against it.
I can't comment on the high because DPH terrifies me, but I think it's definitely worth starting low, to reiterate what others have said.
Even on non recreational doses, and I don't think I've ever gone over 125mg intentionally, I'd have a bit of uncomfortable-ness. One time I took maybe 125mg to try to go to bed during mild opiate withdrawals and ended up fingering a girl who wasn't actually around while explaining French history to her. All of this made perfect sense at the time. This was not my typical experience at all, usually I would just get very tired and drained and maybe a little zoned out.
My point is, everyone reacts differently to different things, so it's better to try the smallest possible dose that may produce the effects you want and then go from there. 125mg should not cause you to become delirious, though, and don't expect an academic sexual fantasy either, but it's better to find out you have a particular sensitivity when you've taken 250mg than if you take 650.
Even on non recreational doses, and I don't think I've ever gone over 125mg intentionally, I'd have a bit of uncomfortable-ness. One time I took maybe 125mg to try to go to bed during mild opiate withdrawals and ended up fingering a girl who wasn't actually around while explaining French history to her. All of this made perfect sense at the time. This was not my typical experience at all, usually I would just get very tired and drained and maybe a little zoned out.
My point is, everyone reacts differently to different things, so it's better to try the smallest possible dose that may produce the effects you want and then go from there. 125mg should not cause you to become delirious, though, and don't expect an academic sexual fantasy either, but it's better to find out you have a particular sensitivity when you've taken 250mg than if you take 650.
gaktattack
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First of all, NECROMANCERS!
I tried DPH twice, and each time it gave me a terrible "hangover" like state. I drank two bottles of robomax each time, and sure there was a strange high, but for 3-4 days afterwards I couldnt think straight, I felt like I had a mild fever and my vision would "flutter". The last time, the not being able to think straight caused me to be paranoid that I had permanently damaged my brain. Since then I say fuck DPH.
I tried DPH twice, and each time it gave me a terrible "hangover" like state. I drank two bottles of robomax each time, and sure there was a strange high, but for 3-4 days afterwards I couldnt think straight, I felt like I had a mild fever and my vision would "flutter". The last time, the not being able to think straight caused me to be paranoid that I had permanently damaged my brain. Since then I say fuck DPH.