DPH/DXM and a Valerian question.

[WorldWarMe]

Alright, I have two questions but I'm going to ask them both in one thread.

First, I've used DXM quite a few times. I really enjoy the feeling it produces, even tho the max I've ever taken was 500mg. I personally don't like hallucinating very much so I stick around the second plateau. It produces a really nice euphoric feeling, along with a little confusion. The confusion the first few times was much more pronounced but as I got more into it it started to get less intense. Still, even tho the confusion/disorientation part diminished the intense euphoria stays. I've come to learn that DXM and Diphenhydramine are quite alike in the area of effects, so I have a few questions.

Are the effects really similar? Does Diphenhydramine produce any euphoria? Can you achieve a level of strong effects without any hallucinations? If I do manage to accidentally take too much and start hallucinating, are there always hallucinations of bugs like I've read (I fucking HATE bugs)?

The main thing I want to know is if it produces any euphoria at all.


Alright, now on to my second question. I took some Valerian root tonight and I started reading about the LD50. It seems to be VERY high and from other posts I've come to the conclusion that it is very hard to OD on. I just want to know how much is safe to take without ODing on.

Thank you in advanced.

 

[BrokedownPalace]

I take diphenhydramine every night to help me sleep. I have a tolerance now, but when I first started taking it, doses as low as 100mg would give me mild hallucinations. Looks like everything is crawling with small bugs, they look like little clear ants and spiders. I fucking HATE bugs as well, and it is kinda scary, especially when you're trying to sleep.

As for euphoria, there isn't really any pronounced euphoria that I ever experienced. It is more of a drunk, confused feeling. I personally like diphen, and I take it daily to help potentiate my daily methadone dose slightly. I built quite a tolerance so the hallucinations aren't present with doses under 200mg, but I never really feel the need to go higher than that.

Diphen is a deleriant. DXM is a dissociative drug, so they are not very similiar in my opinion. Diphen trips aren't very fun, and if you don't like bugs I highly recommend not going over 100mg if you decide to take some. Just stick to the DXM, or try some Ketamine if you like DXM. Ketamine is much more euphoric and overall much more enjoyable than dxm in my opinion. DXM makes me feel real shitty and makes my heart beat too fast.

Last week i had taken a bunch of xanax throughout the day and for some stupid reason decided to take 600 mg of DXM (i would never do this if i were sober, haven't touched dxm in like 5 years ). Turned to be so fucking horrible, i though I was gonna die and my heart was gonna explode. The dreamy hallucinations were very cool, but the body load was just almost unbearable. Im gonna definitely stick with ketamine and LSD if I feel the need to take a trip.

 

[mgrady3]

no euphoria from Diphen, unless perhaps you have horrid insomnia and taking it allows you to sleep. I guess that next morning would feel euphoric, having finally slept.

As par Valerian, I didn't know it was even possible to OD on.
I'd say its an herb that hasn't had a whole lot of pertinent research done on it. It is though to help with sleep, relaxation, etc; I have taken it many times and felt very little effects. I've usually had to take 1000-2500 mg from OTC capsules to really feel anything.

I've also had valerian in various sleepy-time herbal teas. but the amount of valerian they list in the ingredients is like 30-60mg; so with herbal teas its more of a placebo effect. Drinking warm fluids that taste nice is just a soothing thing.

I wouldn't worry about OD'ing from valerian, but I also wouldn't advise exploring too much with it without reading some real medical research concerning what its effects are at high dosages. It may end up being bad for you liver or something