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Downloadable Blueprints for a 3D-Printed (Plastic) Gun: What to do?

It's not the first time Trump has verbally been anti gun or NRA, just don't forget how quickly he also does a one eighty and reverses everything he says. You sound like you may be falling for his lip service honestly.
 
w01fg4ng said:
It's not the first time Trump has verbally been anti gun or NRA, just don't forget how quickly he also does a one eighty and reverses everything he says. You sound like you may be falling for his lip service honestly.
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The blueprints themselves are information, not a gun. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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w01fg4ng said:
And people kill people, not guns. I get it.

It still doesn't seem right.
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Why doesn't it seem right? Because the media's scared you into thinking everyone's going to have a plastic gun overnight?

Over 2,000 people already have the AR-15 plastic 3D gun blueprints. Where's all the plastic gun violence?

The reality is that 3D printers are cost-prohibitive. An actual AR-15 costs less than a 3D printer. No one logically thought this one out. It's a big nothing burger.
 
Two other points, it's not actually possible to stop the spread of information anymore. And also, we don't make guns out of steel "just cause". You can't just 3d print an ar15 and expect it not to blow up in your face.
 
JessFR said:
Two other points, it's not actually possible to stop the spread of information anymore. And also, we don't make guns out of steel "just cause". You can't just 3d print an ar15 and expect it not to blow up in your face.
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I heard some reports that they were defective or "blown apart" after a few rounds. Other reports say "it fires well".
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Why doesn't it seem right? Because the media's scared you into thinking everyone's going to have a plastic gun overnight?

Over 2,000 people already have the AR-15 plastic 3D gun blueprints. Where's all the plastic gun violence?

The reality is that 3D printers are cost-prohibitive. An actual AR-15 costs less than a 3D printer. No one logically thought this one out. It's a big nothing burger.
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Fwiw, "the media" in this scenario would be you. I haven't researched this beyond a tweet and what you have told me just now.

So, no.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
CNN reported on 2,000 people already having downloaded the blueprints.
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Ok

Google prices on a 3D printer, and an AR-15. These are numbers you can look up yourself.
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The cool thing about prices in technology is that they tend to go down fairly quickly. Did you know your cell phone has more computing power than the computer that sent Neil A. to the moon?
 
w01fg4ng said:
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The cool thing about prices in technology is that they tend to go down fairly quickly. Did you know your cell phone has more computing power than the computer that sent Neil A. to the moon?
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Your contention is that a 3D printer will one day be cheaper than a rifle?

Do you have any reasoning behind that, or just a hunch? I see some models below $1,000, but are these models capable of creating an AR-15? Seems like they are smaller than the size of a rifle.
 
Yes, and it will be a good day when I can pick up a rifle for next to nothing. However I should be required to jump through some hoops. Namely, license and registration.

Unregulated gun files on the internet should be treated like child porn.
 
You really believe that?

We can buy books that detail how to make weapons, bombs, crystal meth or other drugs. This doesn’t seem any different. A major 1st Amendment issue that the Supreme Court always sides on the rights of freedom of speech and freedom of press.
 
Even here on BL we have had our limits tested on synthesis talk and the like.

Drugs are so different than guns though I can't even.
 
The reason child pornography is illegal is because its existence necessitates the harm of a child. Blueprints for a plastic gun isn’t inherently or necessarily harming anyone. It’s not an apt comparison.
 
This gun designs on the internet argument seems really stupid. I mean, let's just forget that a 3d printer that operates using plastic as the feedstock can't, for physics reason, create a firearm that can actually work like an ar-15. Either you gotta lower the caliber down to a 22, or decide that you're just totally ok that it'll be just as likely to explode as shoot anyone. I mean, plastics just not strong enough for the pressures and temperatures involved. No gun in the world is build to use plastic for 100% of the construction materials for exactly this reason.

OK so let's just forget that for a second. There no point in trying to regulate it. First of all, it's impossible to actually censor it if you want to or not. We've spent God only knows how much resources on child porn for this same reason, but at least when we do that, if we catch ANYONE we catch someone who totally deserved to be caught. But only a very tiny portion of the people interested in gun printing actually represent a threat. The resources to benefit to society ratio is totally insane. Piles of money thrown away over an unjustified paranoia.

And if that's not a good enough reason. Look, I get that not everyone might realize this. But guns really aren't a complicated technology. ANY half intelligent person can build a much more dangerous automatic weapon from scratch with no plans at all with basic machining tools and know how. The only reason we don't worry about that, but do worry about 3d printing, is because EVERY new society changing technology has had paranoid doomsayers finding reasons to be afraid.

People wanted to ban writing because of the fear that it would damage people's ability to remember things. Theater because it would kill reading. Ban radio cause it'll kill theater. Ban TV because it'll kill radio.

Society changes, technology evolves, progress CAN NOT be prevented. You just have to adapt. Don't let yourself be one of those people laughed at by every generation to come after you for having absolutely no foresight.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
You think repealing the 2nd amendment is the right decision?
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No, it's much more likely that the current interpretation of it is wrong and needs to be corrected.

JessFR said:
plastics just not strong enough for the pressures and temperatures involved. No gun in the world is build to use plastic for 100% of the construction materials for exactly this reason.
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Just another reason it needs to be regulated. The cost of regulation doesn't have to be expensive either. Software could handle most of the hard work.
 
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