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"Dove" MDMA substitute.

I swear by these. They give me a semi-speedy buzz. I plugged just one of those London Underground pills and was violently ill for hours.
 
^High Kandyjill these are "legal" over the counter party pills sold in the UK - various mixes of legal/semi legal ingredients to get you high. Most of them are better than the pipe pills that get sold off as E as you know what your getting-and expect to be awake all night long. I much rather people bought there pipe pills online - much better and reduces the market for the dealers selling them as E/X
 
Bearlove said:
^High Kandyjill these are "legal" over the counter party pills sold in the UK - various mixes of legal/semi legal ingredients to get you high. Most of them are better than the pipe pills that get sold off as E as you know what your getting-and expect to be awake all night long. I much rather people bought there pipe pills online - much better and reduces the market for the dealers selling them as E/X
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That's what I was talking about except NN is the company I'm not going to type out to full name due to the rules of sourcing. But it is UK base.

They are on an online store but have different "stamps" The info on the pills say they do not contain BZP or Piperazine. And are a tablet formulation which has a combination of rare and unique natural ingredients.

Are these the same things? They have the dove press as well, but have various other presses. And like it says not to take over 2 in a 4 hour period.
 
The "legal party pills" are legal because they suck. Just like getting those "stamina fuck all night" pills you see at the corner store in the US. Legal because they don't fucking work. And the marketing strategy is using the most "pop culture" ecstacy symbol, the dove, to sell.
 
@Kandyjill – They sound the same, In the UK there are two different types on the market - Herbal highs and legal party pills. The Herbal highs have a blend of caffeine, root extracts and other exotic sounding things – the “legal highs” are usually a mix of piperazines (used to be mainly BZP and a.n.other) but when BZP was being controlled for human consumption they were marketed as a plant feeder as BZP was still legal as a fertilizer :0. The pills can be a blend of any of the piperazines though – each one aimed at a different user, speed replacement, X replacement, LSD replacement etc.

The herbal ones are usually IMO rubbish and don’t do that much (apart from a few of the older ones) – the legal ones are a different story and are usually better than the bunk (mcpp) pills sold off as X/E around the globe at street level – I think that the makers of the legal products (for internet/shop sale) use less of the active ingredients so the nasty side effects are less (forget sleeping on them though as its impossible). The makers are specifically aiming at a market other than real drug users so they make their product as best as possible to get return customers!

Crazy days
 
I'm really confused. Can someone tell me what active ingredient is present in these AM-HI-CO Dove Original pills? They feel very euphoric to me and all the head shops in Camden say they are the best ones out of all the ones they sell in their shops.
 
^the confusion is the point though - they are marketed as plant feeders (BZP is [from what I understand] legal for use as a fertilizer and illegal for use for human consumption).

I would assume if the product is still being sold as fertilizer then theres going to be BZP (amongst other piperazines) as an ingredient - If its generation 3 (BZP free) then assume its going to be one of the many other legal alternatives (Mcpp, tmfpp, meopp, pfpp, mephedrone, M1)

If the contents of any pill was unregulated/black and white legal then the makers would just say it on the packet instead of the imbiguios "keytones". I dont know this as a fact though and its just my personal opinion.
 
^ Is there any way I can find out the exact ingredient(s)? Will the manufacturers tell me if I enquire? I can't find it on any pill ID websites.
 
^Try writing to some of the manufacting companies (I doubt they will answer you though)
Its listed as

Ketones- any compound with two other carbon based compounds bound to it (erm which covers piperazines !

Dicalcium Phosphate - calcium used as a tableting agent

Magnesium Sterate - bulking agent for tablet manufacturing and used to stop other agents clogging up machines in the productions of tablets

So we have "possibly" piperzines with a bulking agent and a lubricating powder to stop the machines clogging :0
 
They mix the active ingredient/s with a binding agent and a lubricating agent (some times another ingredient to help the pill disolve when you eat it (disintergrant)) and then run it through a tablet press that binds all the ingredients together using compression.

The binding/bulking agent is to make the pill a decent size and to help it take shape when pressed - imagine if all the E pills were only 120mgs of powder they would be too small to work with.

The lubricating agent is used to keep the powder flowing and not clog up the machine.

So Im told that is :D
 
Yes but I'm having difficulty in understanding how they can get a small clump of dry powder to bind together into one solid mass, that is unless they add an amount of water. What's to stop it from falling apart? Can someone explain how this works to me? Sorry to sound like a core(
 
Its called direct compression - Certain dry materials "binding agents" stick together when being compressed. They "stick" to anything else that they are next to and form a solid mass - if they are compressed into a shape of a pill then the final result would be a pill!. Have a look on youtube under ecstasy and theres a video of pills being made.

Im not sure though - all I say is pure speculation !
 
I tried these recently. Took 2 of them and was very impressed it has similar effects to mdxx chemicals but they're not as all consuming. Waves of love, body rushes, euphoria, increased responsiveness to music, even nausea - they are a bit rough on the stomach. I hated the pips but these thing have impressed me. I'd really like to know a lot more about their contents befre using them regularly-the specified ingredients are vague to say the least! Ketones; Dicalcium Phosphate; Magnesium Sterate.
 
The keytones is the bit to "worry" about - the others are fairly standard additives to pills. Could be absolutely anything :0

Dicalcium Phosphate - calcium used as a tableting agent

Magnesium Sterate - bulking agent for tablet manufacturing and used to stop other agents clogging up machines in the productions of tablets
 
Its like taking any other pill / substance that you dont test. Its going to be some form of piperazine/research chemical. Mephodrone is getting more and more popular as an alternative to MD.. again another RC with very little known about it.
 
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