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Dosage levels for dexamphetamine/dexies/dexiprine?
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ok i have seen u use the phrase methcutwhizz, well if thats what ur having then i'm not gonna compare.
i was merely pointing out the chemistry behind dexies, and that people have this incorrectly perceived difference between whizz (NOT METH!!!) and them.
i was merely pointing out the chemistry behind dexies, and that people have this incorrectly perceived difference between whizz (NOT METH!!!) and them.
Right
I was laughing at some shit, don't worry about it. heehee still laughing
So what's wizz then, I wasn't on about wizzcutmeth, just wizz
I've never made wizz whilst examining it's optical activity but I'm guessing its a racemic solution. (that is a mixture of about even amounts of dextro-enantomers and levorotatory-enantomers.
Now I never did much biochemistry, I'm doing a course now but I haven't learnt anything yet. hooooo fuck I shouldn't be on bluelight I got 4 months worth to learn b4 the exam.
Anyway I do know that different enantomers react differently with optically active subtances. ie all of your bodies amino acids except one, and many many more metabolic substances and hence processes.
dexies are purely dextorotatory-amphetamine, no levorotatory.
But what I was getting at earlier is something which I rely on before anything scientific need iven be looked at.
dexies = completely different feeling to speed.
For me I get none of the mental feelings i get from speed.
The reason they isolate the dextro form for ADD sufferers is that it has different effects to the levo and hence racemic forms of amphetamine.
Namely more stimulation of the central NS and gives a more pronounced sympathomimetic effect, apparently.
I think if you can isoloate the pure dextro form it would be a much more intense rush than good speed you would buy.
I was actually commenting before on what I thought taking the tablets they prescribe to ADDers was like in comparisson to average speed.
heeheehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(its a personal joke)
[This message has been edited by entropope (edited 28 May 2000).]
I was laughing at some shit, don't worry about it. heehee still laughing
So what's wizz then, I wasn't on about wizzcutmeth, just wizz
I've never made wizz whilst examining it's optical activity but I'm guessing its a racemic solution. (that is a mixture of about even amounts of dextro-enantomers and levorotatory-enantomers.
Now I never did much biochemistry, I'm doing a course now but I haven't learnt anything yet. hooooo fuck I shouldn't be on bluelight I got 4 months worth to learn b4 the exam.
Anyway I do know that different enantomers react differently with optically active subtances. ie all of your bodies amino acids except one, and many many more metabolic substances and hence processes.
dexies are purely dextorotatory-amphetamine, no levorotatory.
But what I was getting at earlier is something which I rely on before anything scientific need iven be looked at.
dexies = completely different feeling to speed.
For me I get none of the mental feelings i get from speed.
The reason they isolate the dextro form for ADD sufferers is that it has different effects to the levo and hence racemic forms of amphetamine.
Namely more stimulation of the central NS and gives a more pronounced sympathomimetic effect, apparently.
I think if you can isoloate the pure dextro form it would be a much more intense rush than good speed you would buy.
I was actually commenting before on what I thought taking the tablets they prescribe to ADDers was like in comparisson to average speed.
heeheehahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(its a personal joke)
[This message has been edited by entropope (edited 28 May 2000).]
well apparently whizz is just amphetamine, but who really knows. my argument is that dexies are also just amphetamine;
i do think meth is more common than we think.
as for the l enantiomer it is utterly useless.
Not so long ago in the U.S they put
l-METHAMPHETAMINE in their nasal inhalers.
well this clearly is proof that the l does sweet fresh air. However the government began realising that it didn't take much to extract it and convert it to d-meth.
Needless to say they changed the formula on that one.
i do think meth is more common than we think.
as for the l enantiomer it is utterly useless.
Not so long ago in the U.S they put
l-METHAMPHETAMINE in their nasal inhalers.
well this clearly is proof that the l does sweet fresh air. However the government began realising that it didn't take much to extract it and convert it to d-meth.
Needless to say they changed the formula on that one.
O.K what you all have to say is interesting and I would just like to add a couple of observations (Off the topic of dexies - but Wizz vs Meth in Oz)
Comming from Qld, the land of Base I have noticed some huge differences over time with wizz.
2 - 3 years ago cut street wizz (buy it by the g) would make you rush sooooo hard that you simply could not sit still (I believe this was meth)
Now all we see is lots and lots of this brown base around here (un-cut buy it by the point). I have been told that it is meth that doesn't go through the final process as it is simply too hard to do now. This base, will keep you up for hours upon hours and the energy is there to use, however you CAN sit still and have a conversation with someone without having to tap you foot or feel you have to get the fuck out of the chair and on the floor. (I now believe that this is not Meth-A just A)
Can you shed any light on the Base Vs refined factor - is Base just one step removed from Meth-A as I have been told or totaly different?
Thanks in advance
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In complete darkness, we are all the same, only knowledge sets us apart.
Comming from Qld, the land of Base I have noticed some huge differences over time with wizz.
2 - 3 years ago cut street wizz (buy it by the g) would make you rush sooooo hard that you simply could not sit still (I believe this was meth)
Now all we see is lots and lots of this brown base around here (un-cut buy it by the point). I have been told that it is meth that doesn't go through the final process as it is simply too hard to do now. This base, will keep you up for hours upon hours and the energy is there to use, however you CAN sit still and have a conversation with someone without having to tap you foot or feel you have to get the fuck out of the chair and on the floor. (I now believe that this is not Meth-A just A)
Can you shed any light on the Base Vs refined factor - is Base just one step removed from Meth-A as I have been told or totaly different?
Thanks in advance
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In complete darkness, we are all the same, only knowledge sets us apart.
i cannot remember where, but i just know the l isn't really active, or at least insignificant compared with the d. Living organisms, especially enzymes are extremely enanitomerically sensitive.
and the l-meth in inhalers is definitely fact.
Base?? what do u mean by that. not freebase i imagine?
i tihnk the brown shit is just unpurified product. Its a good sign its not cut with anything now, don't tihnk anyone cuts with brown sugar these days
and the l-meth in inhalers is definitely fact.
Base?? what do u mean by that. not freebase i imagine?
i tihnk the brown shit is just unpurified product. Its a good sign its not cut with anything now, don't tihnk anyone cuts with brown sugar these days
Base.. as in the base product as in uncut, no sugar added etc. It is sticky brown shit that you can smell down the block, that unforgetable smell. 1 point will cut well with 1g of what ever you think doesn't hurt your nose.
Base is easily available in UK, maybe ask in there too..... I've never seen base here, although I smelt it once on a pizza delivery in Mt Pleasant/Ardross. heehee I could tell you some stories of smells and sights on pizza delivery