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Dosage - how much is too much

Cheers for the advice Folley. Problem I'm facing is that I only have the Green Android (200mg-220mg) pills rather than loose crystal. After my 3 month break ends in September, my plan was to combine MDMA with AL-LAD candyflip style. However, from a purely MDMA perspective, I'm trying to refine my dosage so I don't fry myself as before on stupidly high doses. My dosing schedule was going to be this -

[After 3 month break]

T - 0:00 - Take 150ug AL-LAD
T - 30-45 mins - Drop 1 Green Android Pill

This is where I'm struggling to decide. Since my initial dose is high, I would be in agreement with anyone who says "don't redose". However (correct me if I'm wrong), my desire to redose comes from an unfound fear that my roll will be alot shorter if I don't redose. Therefore -

T - [1 Hour after first MDMA dose] - Redose with AT MOST 1/4 of a GA pill (This step is undecided - Need advice here! :) )

Of course due to the spread in pills, one can never know how much 1/4 of a pill contains, however if the redose was even less than 1/4, then I could keep my total MDMA dose for the night at around 250mg ( I don't want to go any higher than this).

Can anyone please shed light on this dosing schedule, as I am now returning with a new-found respect for the drug. No more 4-500mg dosages, those days are gone!
 
There's so many factors that affect dosage that nobody could really tell you how much to dose of a certain product. 100mg is just a safe dose for a newbie.
 
Since I have a crazy tolerance I have to take 200-250 mgs to get a descent roll going, taking 150 mgs is just not intense enough for me because of past abuse. I've taken 300 mgs with no side effects before but I think once you get too 400 mgs your asking for some bad side effects and that would be too much. As struttergear said there's too many factors that go into it but I think 250mg is as high as you'd need to go.
 
What is your tolerance? i have quite some tolerance and have done lots of MDMA last 1 1/2 years, and a green android pill (wich is about the same strangt as all the dutch pills such as partyflocks) would have me rolling extremely hard. If I would be in your position, I would either take 1 android with 1/4 an hour later to be completely destroyed, or take 3/4 of the pill with a half 1,5 hours later for a strong, longer roll.

i also wonder sometimes why many people claim to be rolling absolute balls on 100mg. Even my first and second time, 100 mg would make me roll very nicely, but would not have me flying skyhigh, I would need 130-150mg (now about 180-200 mg due to tolerance). I sometimes wonder if the people who claim they only need 100 mg never tried more, such that they dont know they can roll much harder and the 100mg is their standard. I rolled on 400mg MDMA my second time (way too much) and rolled the hardest in my entire life for 10 hours, nothing can ever comprare to that, I was in heaven. The real extremely POWERFUL rolling (extremely enhanced sensory perception, extreme rushing, massive euphoria) comes when I go above 250-300mg (not all at once), yes the empathy is not as strong after subsequent doses but the intensity increases so much. For me the first dose produces a lovely cuddly experience, but after 250-300 mg, hallucinating, in front of a huge stage with your favorite DJ on while the bass is extremely loud, that's the best.

Although it is harmful, anyone who has never tried high dose (250+ mg) dose MDMA should try it at least once in their lives, it is the ultimate rave experience, and something completely different that a single dose of MDMA. I don't see the point of doing large doses of MDMA at home, as at home with friends you do MDMA for the empathy, which is the strongest after the first dose and doesn't increase after that (unless you do a huge redose).
 
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^meh huge intial doses like your recommending has quite the opposite effect on me. A huge dose makes me a floored puddle of love on the ground. Exactly what I don't want at a rave... IMO. Standard if not lower doses are better for the dance atmosphere. Just my .02....PLUR
 
The reason for the high initial dose (in my case anyway), is that its the first dose that always counts. So an android pill (200-220mg) is a great dose for me, as I can either leave it at that, or redose another 1/4 if I feel its needed. If I make the 1/4 small, then I can keep my dose under the 300mg mark and around 250-280 at most. That is as high as I would want to go these days.

I just need opinions on the redosing of a 1/4 if 200-220mg is your initial dose. I'm assuming if your re-dose is small and within an hour, you lessen the chance of brain zaps/horrid comedown?
 
Well seeing as you asked for opinions, and this is just that. My opinion.

I think 50mg redose on an initial 200mg wouldn't have that much effect. I'd go for half my initial dose.

It really comes down to the individual. One thing you learn here is everyone is different, there's no exact science.
 
^^^I concur, however, half a potential 220mg pill is at the very least 110 (and there can be hotspots in pills), so at the very least your total dose would be 330mg. Thats getting to horrible comedown/brain zap terratory!
 
You could maybe do a little less initially. Or maybe a little less than half on the redose.

I just would rather not redose at all than take 1/4 if that makes sense.
 
Mazzab said:
... Just my .02....PLUR
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lol i see what you did there
anyways i think 200mg is a pretty hefty dose, and honestly if 200mg isnt getting you rolling balls, either youre taking way to much too frequently, or your gear isnt as good as you think it is. the shit i get, has people rolling balls off a .1, i presonally love 150-180mg depending how i wanna feel, how many other substances will be there etc
 
Depends on the individual, the quality of the MDMA, previous stimulant tolerance, and the set and setting.

For me 110mg of top quality tested MDMA is the perfect dose, a little overwhelming at first on the come up but perfect on the peak, and not so high that I have any sort of unpleasant comedown/hangover. Just right. :)

For reference if you've tried the similar drug 6-APB I like around 140-150mg with that, which seems to be in the normal dose range people take, so I'd say my tolerance with MDMA-like substances is pretty average.
 
xyz9876 said:
What is your tolerance? i have quite some tolerance and have done lots of MDMA last 1 1/2 years, and a green android pill (wich is about the same strangt as all the dutch pills such as partyflocks) would have me rolling extremely hard. If I would be in your position, I would either take 1 android with 1/4 an hour later to be completely destroyed, or take 3/4 of the pill with a half 1,5 hours later for a strong, longer roll.

i also wonder sometimes why many people claim to be rolling absolute balls on 100mg. Even my first and second time, 100 mg would make me roll very nicely, but would not have me flying skyhigh, I would need 130-150mg (now about 180-200 mg due to tolerance). I sometimes wonder if the people who claim they only need 100 mg never tried more, such that they dont know they can roll much harder and the 100mg is their standard. I rolled on 400mg MDMA my second time (way too much) and rolled the hardest in my entire life for 10 hours, nothing can ever comprare to that, I was in heaven. The real extremely POWERFUL rolling (extremely enhanced sensory perception, extreme rushing, massive euphoria) comes when I go above 250-300mg (not all at once), yes the empathy is not as strong after subsequent doses but the intensity increases so much. For me the first dose produces a lovely cuddly experience, but after 250-300 mg, hallucinating, in front of a huge stage with your favorite DJ on while the bass is extremely loud, that's the best.

Although it is harmful, anyone who has never tried high dose (250+ mg) dose MDMA should try it at least once in their lives, it is the ultimate rave experience, and something completely different that a single dose of MDMA. I don't see the point of doing large doses of MDMA at home, as at home with friends you do MDMA for the empathy, which is the strongest after the first dose and doesn't increase after that (unless you do a huge redose).
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I feel ya. I'm the opposite though. I prefer to go higher at home where I know im ok in a safe environment, than be off my tits around strangers who might look to take advantage, but then I'm just paranoid like that when I'm out I think.
 
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