Dosage advice on Phnom Penh heroin #4

[firahs75]

Hi all,

I am currently living in Cambodia and finally caved in last night to the temptation to score some China White. I have been getting an endless supply of Oxys from my local pharmacy, but it just isn't scratching that itch. I most definitely got ripped off big time having paid for a G and having received about a half a G (didn't want to take too much time inspecting and arguing, just wanted to get the fuck outta there after copping). But, at least it is real dope and at least I was not setup and arrested (which was my main fear about copping in PP) so I cannot complain too much.

So now to my question. I don't know what the purity is, but I am told that usually it is >90% here. Snorting a match-head sized bump gets me a pleasant buzz for an hour or so, but nothing too intense. Not too different from some of the Colombian #4 I have gotten in NYC. My tolerance is about 50mg Oxy with a few beers to get a nice buzz (I don't get any euphoria from oxy anymore). I was on subs for 4 years at < 2mg a day (still have a months supply which I fall back on time to time when Oxy is out of stock).

So, I got bought some new 30 gauge points. ethyl alcohol, and gauze pads. I am wondering how much would be a good starting point for IV (I have IV'd before in the USA). It was a little easier to gauge my dose in the USA cause I would buy it by the stamp, so the stamp bag would be my point of reference (ie half a stamp, 1 stamp etc). Here, I scored a bunch of little white rocks, which I have crushed up so that I can dip a corner of a business card in the baggie to do little bumps. I have no digital scale though so I have no way to accurately measure my dose. Should I go for half of my snorted dose? The little bumps I have been doing get me buzzed but don't put me totally out of this world. Does anyone have any personal experience with PP dope? Anything else I should know about it (possibly dangerous cuts etc)?Thanks for the advice!

 

[Crankinit]

I'd say start with 1/4 of the dose you snort, then move up slowly if necessary. It'll probably end up being more than that, but you can always take more.

 

[catching fish]

You are in smack heaven dude. Be careful. [removed]

 

[drug_mentor]

^ That comes pretty close to sourcing dude, this forum is about harm reduction not about how easy it is to shop scripts overseas.

 

[catching fish]

Sorry, I was just curious as to what their doctors were like. Although if I was living in the golden triangle I don't think prescription opiates would be my focus.

 

[drug_mentor]

We are all curious about a lot of things, but if it goes against the guidelines it is not to be mentioned here. I just tend to notice you fishing around for sources a bit lately, first asking for the brand of seeds JS OD'd on to be released and now asking about doctors in South East Asia, please let it sink in that these types of questions are sourcing and are not allowed here.

 

[catching fish]

I apologised and removed the offending text. I appreciate that you are just enforcing the rules but neither posts came any where near "fishing around for sources". Cheers for raising the issue.

 

[drug_mentor]

Actually both of them did, that is why I have warned you about them, I really don't know where you hope to get by arguing about it. I appreciate the apology and the removal of the text but that doesn't reverse the fact that you were breaking the rules. You might want to read the Forum Guidelines before posting again, if you have not already.

Lets leave it at that and allow the thread to get back on topic.

 

[oldirtybizza]

Sorry, I was just curious as to what their doctors were like. Although if I was living in the golden triangle I don't think prescription opiates would be my focus.

neither phnom penh or cambodia is in the golden triangle.

Its the region that borders both Northern Thailand , Western Laos and the Shan State in Myanmar. Poppy cultivation has been widely curtailed in the region and virtually extinguished from Thailand except for a few small crops in isolated hill tribes.
Very little opium is produced in Cambodia itself the famous China white mostly coming from Burma and to a less extent Laos.

 

[opi8]

From what I understand Myanmar/Burma and Laos is where it's at. But the close proximity to Thailand, even if Thailand isn't a producer country means that it will still be found there with a very high purity (I hope that's not sourcing, I didn't see catching fish' posts). I wish I had the balls to do a drug holiday in a SE Asian country, but even though I love opi's, I don't love them enough to risk my life.

 

[catching fish]

Actually both of them did, that is why I have warned you about them, I really don't know where you hope to get by arguing about it. I appreciate the apology and the removal of the text but that doesn't reverse the fact that you were breaking the rules. You might want to read the Forum Guidelines before posting again, if you have not already.

Lets leave it at that and allow the thread to get back on topic.

Not arguing mate, it just seemed that you were straight up saying that I was trying to obtain drugs through this forum. Completely untrue, but I accept that the posts may have gone against the guidelines. Thanks.

neither phnom penh or cambodia is in the golden triangle.

Its the region that borders both Northern Thailand , Western Laos and the Shan State in Myanmar. Poppy cultivation has been widely curtailed in the region and virtually extinguished from Thailand except for a few small crops in isolated hill tribes.
Very little opium is produced in Cambodia itself the famous China white mostly coming from Burma and to a less extent Laos.

You are right, but Cambodia does border the golden triangle so chances the same stuff is available there.

On the topic at hand - there isn't a whole lot we can say without knowing what exactly you are getting and other details. The safest thing to do would be to assume that any gear you do get is extremely high quality and take the necessary precautions. As mentioned, if you do switch to mainlining your gear, start with MUCH less than you would use if you were snorting or smoking it. You should get a feel for it relatively quickly. Take precautions whenever you get a new batch as well, like starting with a small bump so you get an idea what you are working with.

Good luck.

 

[oldirtybizza]

^I never said H wasn't in Cambod , you intimated that the PP was in the golden triangle.

The stakes are always high if you choose to use heroin, legally , physically , mentally. Obviously higher in SEA , every time you score you really are putting your freedom on the line, it's almost a bigger rush scoring the gear than using it.
Thailand was a major producer decades ago, on the Thai side of the triangle it is now actually a tourist attraction where you can go to opium museums and even see behind 2 sheets of glass a small piece of real "opium", complete with shoddy mannequins on their sides smoking opium pipes, it's all very kitschy and lame. It could have changed in the years since I was there though.
They did mention quite specific instructions for how to smoke O without a pipe which were quite effective considering I nearly died from using that technique some days later.
Of course heroin like virtually everywhere on earth is also available in Thailand however it is not widely available to your average farang and you would be very hard pressed to even locate opium.

 

[drug_mentor]

Catching fish, I said you were fishing around for sources, not that you tried to obtain drugs through this forum. Asking to identify brands of poppy seeds is sourcing, asking how easy it is for doctors to prescribe you shit overseas in specific countries is sourcing, I am not psychic, I cannot know what you intend to do with this information, but the fact remains that you WERE asking for sources of drugs (and arguably availability discussion in regards to doctors attitudes) and that is not allowed. I politely pointed that out to you and it seems a bit nit picky to me whether or not you were actively trying to obtain drugs, against the guidelines is against the guidelines and that line of questioning is not allowed, simple as that. I would encourage you not to breach that rule a third time otherwise there will be greater consequence than me politely pointing out that this conduct is not allowed. Lets please refrain from any more back and forth on the issue as it is just a distraction from the topic at hand.

OP I think it might be wise to try invest in some scales, eyeballing dope that pure for IV doses seems like it could be a recipe for disaster. You said yourself that the gear came as rocks, it is entirely possible that if you crushed it less finely that visually it would look the same as previous doses but contain a fair bit more. Be careful with that stuff mate and enjoy.

 

[hunter1]

If you have spent any decent stretch of time in SEA... 3 months + ect... You will know the unique differences in drugs available from Pharmacies, illegally and the cultural differences that need to be considered depending on which SEA country you are residing in. As with anywhere in the world. It's who you know and even if so, do your homework.

I'm not about to enter into the whole Golden Triangle definition and it's trickle through effect nonsense.

I will say this though. If you're in PP. Use your brain and you will find extreemly strong smack and opium V easily.
Laos and Northern Thailand is where it is comming from. It is fucking strong and be... careful.