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Heroin Dope induced insomnia

spare9

spare9

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I have noticed with the past few times of using dope I actually have trouble falling asleep. It used to be that I would get noddy and fall into the world's most relaxing sleep. Now I nod out but do the whole head jerk thing and come to. If I use close to bed time, about an hour before bed, I cannot fall asleep at all. In fact, I can't fall asleep for about four hours or so. It's terrible because I'm incredibly tired and crave sleep but my body refuses to do so.

I'm not looking for a solution. Obviously that would be to just not use close to when I have to go to bed. I'm just wondering if anyone else experiences this and if anyone has an idea of why this happens.


ETA: When taking pills (opiates) I do not have this problem. For the past few days I've been taking hydros and when I start coming down I feel incredibly relaxed and have I nice peaceful sleep.
 
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I used to experience the same thing when snorting powder heroin; the heroin causes insomnia due to the stimulation. Even though it's a really sedating drug and you nod out and stuff, it will still prevent sleep. I normally stayed up late at night and then would get a perfect 6 to 7 hour window of sleep every day when I was using heroin. Now I get about 8 to 9 hours of sleep a night without it, and don't struggle as hard with insomnia.
 
Ive had on and off insomnia with my years of first oxycodone/h/etc and now methadone. For me its a general, i cannot get to sleep on the comedown/tail end of a dose, and ive had a couple friends have this problem too.
Now, on the methadone, i pretty much need benedryl or something to get to sleep. Unless im very tired, like after work, then i fall asleep for maybe a few hours. Opiates and insomnia is a very strange relationship.

However i find cigarettes play a huge role in sleep too, and most users are smokers.
 
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I can never sleep after I dose, I think it happens when you use so much your body is scared to let you fall asleep for fear you won't wake up. I've been shaken out of a nod by my arms or legs twitching or woken up gasping for breath.
 
^ a lot of people say this, but I really don't think your body is scared to fall asleep lol, I just think that opiates in general even though they are sedating, they cause insomnia. I didn't mind it when I was using heroin because I would just lay in bed so comfortable and have happy fleeting thoughts.
 
I've heard many people say this happens. It's happened to me a few times, but for the most part, I have no trouble sleeping on dope. But every once in a while, it's really weird to be doing something and not be able to keep your eyes open, but when you finally decide to just call it a night and crash, you can't sleep.... hah.
 
Thanks for the replies, guys. It's definitely a weird thing considering dope makes you nod haha. Never thought about it being cut with caffeine. The dope I usually get also makes me itch like crazy! I've had other dope that hasn't made me itch so bad and the pills don't get that bad either. I will scratch so hard (usually in my sleep) that I have noticeable marks/scabs and I end up rubbing my face so much and so hard that it's really sore and blotchy the next day. Guess I should pick up some antihistamines haha.
 
always happens to me after a clean spell and even using temgesic, dhc heroin etc i am nodding but lie awake itching like mad all night with pinprick pupils and a clenched jaw , the jaw thing is weird anyone else gt that ? i know its not cos of cut as it happens with pharm opiates a well as good h ? ;)
 
I find opioids to be stimulating...yesterday and the day before I went 48 hours without a dose of methadone, I was starting to feel a little shitty, sweaty hot etc., Then I got my hands on a bottle of 120 mg methadone mix that a friend owed me at 7 pm last night. I drank it and wasn't able to sleep all night, finally fell asleep around 4 am this morning...Damn I only have 70 mg's for tonight around 8-9, then I have to go without for another 36 hours until I can pick up my carries...

But back to the point...it seems more like the synthetics and semi-synthetics are more sedating then morphine. Dilaudid,Methadone,Oxycodone, I find them all to give huge energy boosts.
 
I have had this happen a lot recently with powder (ECP). I even try to dose in the morning and by night time I don't feel ANY opiates at all (12-14 hours). I start to fall asleep with some really lucid dreams and boom i jerk my arm or something and wake up seemingly gasping for air. I spent like 2 hours the other night jerking and trying to sleep until i finally gave in and took a small benzo dose even though I hate taking any amount of benzo unless i feel like i am completely down from the ECP. It sucks...very frustrating and scary at times if you feel like you stopped breathing or wake up with sleep paralysis.
 
Funny that this thread came up because I just had this problem last night.. and like I said, I normally have no problem but last night I couldn't sleep for shit after I dosed.

Was incredibly annoying.
 
Everyone has different effects from same drugs

When I was at the tail end of being a junkie I only slept like 3-4 hours a night and never ever felt tired
 
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Everyone has different effects from same drugs

When I was at the tail end of being a junkie I only slept like 3-4 hours a night and never ever felt tired
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That's what's odd. On the times I do have insomnia from dope and don't sleep, I'm not incredibly tired the next day like I would have been if I just regularly got no sleep with no dope in my system.
 
Yeah it happens to me on higher dosages.
Opiates are actually pretty stimulating to me, and often times I will stay up late, sometimes all night (on long acting ones) just so I have time to relax and enjoy my alone time.
I really don't mind staying up high either as long as i have pot to smoke and some more opioids in the morning.
 
Yea I also get the whole blotchy red face scabs after to much methadone didn't get it so bad on the smack & morphine though
 
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