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Benzos Don't "smoke" phenazepam.

SizzleSword

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I acquired 500mg of phenazepam about a week ago but I didn't mess around with it until last night. I was measuring around what I thought should be 3.5 to 5mg doses and putting them in gelcaps. Well, a friend that I had over mentioned a thread that he saw on Bluelight that had some talk about smoking or vaporizing phenazepam.

Anyway, long story short and after trying my hardest to convince him not to try to do this, he got a piece of aluminum foil paper, an empty pen tube, and put a sand-grain sized speck of powder on the foil. He flicked the lighter, moving the flame closer to the bottom of the foil, then strange "shaped' smoke clouds started forming before a big maroon smoke cloud erupted from the heated phenazepam. It was almost as if the clouds of smoke were coming from outside a perimeter further away than where the phenazepam was on the foil. It was actually somewhat entertaining to watch until the flame got too close and just turned into this blast of bergundy smoke.

The sad part about this is that the friend of mine who was doing was inhaling the smoke/vapor/whatever you wanna call it, and he was getting some very intense non-benzodiazepine effects from this that's really starting to worry me. Originally his eyes got super dilated, but the whites of his eyes were almost pearly white. His heart was pounding out of his chest, and I could tell that the color of the skin (mainly on his face) was turning an almost sick purplish color. He said that the effects felt wonderful and actually did this same technique twice, just fifteen minutes between each go. He'd light it slowly and then take all of the maroon/bergundy smoke in at once and hold it for a few seconds. Each time he'd say "it's almost like you can feel the chemical everywhere in your mouth, nose, even in your head". Overall he said doing it this way made it feel like something completely different than a benzodiazepine, perhaps closer to something with a stimulant/deliriant property.

And for the sucky part.. He called me this morning complaining about coughing up "black phlegm". Being a cigarette and marijuana smoker for a long time, I know how nasty certain "loogies" can look, so I was imagining him showing me a dark yellowish green blob. Instead, this was like... It's almost hard to describe, it was almost like motor oil and petroleum jelly. He had it in a cup, I almost took it for a joke, but he started coughing more of this stuff up and he says it tastes so awful he has to fight the urge the puke each time he coughs.

I decided to put this out there because I had read the thread about smoking benzodiazepines myself and have actually came in contact with someone who has, and it doesn't seem to be a very pleasant experience at all. Also, there was no way that the substance was anything other than phenazepam, because I had used some both before and after his ordeal with it. Anyway, be careful, don't smoke this stuff. Peace.
 
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When I was a tobacco smoker I would cough up black shit in the morning.

Doesn't always have to be yellow/green, but yeah phenaze is for eating not smoking
 
Good harm reduction post....I doubt it will prevent everyone from trying to smoke phenazepam though.

...we humans seem to be built to destroy ourselves.
 
Good harm reduction post....I doubt it will prevent everyone from trying to smoke phenazepam though.

...we humans seem to be built to destroy ourselves.

Great insight. It is sad but true. Although I can honestly say I will never smoke a benzo, I myself have done some stupid shit despite repeated warnings not to do so.
 
smoking ANY pills/ powder is just not a good idea. Benzo's in particular is a BAD idea...

8)Fuck me, smoking phenazepam is probably the WORSE idea so far...
 
Kinda like what Capt H said about temazapam,

doesn't the extreme cheapness and potency of phenazepam make smoking pointless? I mean how much can one dose cost? (don't answer)=D
 
Yea but those are illegal drugs meant to be consumed that way. Pills are designed by Pharm companys to be SWALLOWED or put UNDER YOUR TONGUE to disolve. I think when he said pills/powder he meant pill powder. I could be wrong but im pretty sure. The only pill i've smoked was a Oxycontin 80. It deff wasn't worth it tho.
 
OP wasn't talking about pills either, he was talking about phenazepam powder sold as an RC. Smoking pills is a bad idea for sure, but smoking (well, vaporising) is a decent ROA for many drugs.
 
Black phlegm

I've also experienced times of coughing up incredibly dark black, blotchy phlegm after smoking lots of cigarettes, hitting gravity bongs, all kinds of not quite healthy things. This scared me too when it happened, and still occasionally happens to this day.

The point that I'm trying to get at is that the phlegm is an abnormal consistency, it's almost like oil and water.. Except it's phlegm and darker phlegm. My friend complaining about a very bad taste that caused him to vomit a few times while trying to cough this stuff up, and as sick as this may sound, I allowed him to cough some up into a small jar and I smelled it and it almost smells like some sort of industrial solvent. It has a very strong odor that lingers, it's not just the smell of undigested food or other bodily functions.

Since this whole ordeal he's been really lazy, never wanting to leave the bed or even eat really even though he says he feels like he's starving sometimes. There was no way that he had smoked any more than 10mg of the stuff, and that's even pushing it there.. I was thinking between 5mg and 7mg. He's basically acting like he's been under the influence of heavy benzodiazepines for multiple days in a row.

I know this poist isn't going to stop anyone from trying this, but if something like this happens to you, imagine what you'd might have to say if it got so bad that you had to go to the emergency room and explain all this to the doctors (like my friend might have to do tomorrow).

I'm not trying to scare anyone, I'm just saying that this seems to be a very unhealthy route of administration of this drug, and should be avoided at all costs. Like many other people have said, the oral bioavailability of benzodiazepines are very high, and you almost always get the most out of taking them orally. Anyway, that's all I got for now, peace.
 
Temazepam's oral BA is so high that choosing another ROA for it is really quite pointless.

The reason for using different ROA for a chemical (smoking, injecting) is mainly not for the bioavailability, but for the increased speed of onset and euphoria that comes with this.
 
Thanks for the heads up. I personally would have never done it anyway, but if a friend wanted to try it himself, now I have this thread to back me up when I say he's an idiot.

I can't imagine what phenazepam turns into when smoked, never mind the (possible, although likely IMO) impurities.
 
Sometimes I wonder how fucking stupid you need to be to try things like this.


That could turn into some radioactive shit when vaporized for all you know. Trying to make "discoveries" on your own will get you in the hospital or in the ground. Use methods which have been tried and tested. This isn't necessarily referring to the OP, but anyone who is retarded enough to try bizarre ROA's with random ass pills.

Jesus Christ.
 
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