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Done acetone wash, 80% gone, residue is crystallized - Is it the mdma?

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Xenderino

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Hello everyone,
After reading lots of how-tos on doing an acetone wash, decided to do one on a red sapir batch. (1g as a test for a first time wash.)


The result was around 0.09mg of powder like substance. the rest was in a glass with the acetone (after filtering) and the residue to let dry and see what's left. This is the result of the "dirty" cup after the acetone vaporized:


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It is believed that the acetone was not dry, even thu epsom salts were baked for two hours and poured inside - and left to absorb for 24 hours. (60g of epsom salts into half liter of acetone)
No one ever talks about the leftovers - but I think these crystals might have some mdma in them.

note for consideration: Some friends did the uncleaned version at a party and said it was VERY good.

What do you think? :?
 
Can't do substance ID on here bro lol I can send you a pic of what it should look like privately if you would like, I asked a similar question. Test kit is the only way to know for sure!
 
I guess I should say a picture of what I got that was very clean and extremely potent crystal mdma. But you can't know just by looking so maybe that would be counter productive of me, but I will do it still just to show off a bit, as long as you acknowledge just because it looks right doesn't mean it is right, there are many chemicals that come in crystal form. But I feel you on wanting to get some opinions, I guess the forum is not the place! Just thought I would let you know in case a mod tried to ban you or something I don't know how they deal with stuff to be honest with you.
 
I have an EZTEST. the problem is - I suspect it'll come out black anyway since it tests for a presence of mdma, not quantity or quality.

Asking for opinions as people who did acetone wash and remember what their residue looked like. I remember reading it supposed to be black goo and dirt.
 
oh alright man, I will try and find an answer for you by tonight, I have to get ready for a bitch of a day of pressure washing, as far as acetone washing I am not the guy to talk to lol I would say most shit that doesn't belong anywhere tends to be black goo and dirt, that is washing 101 man lol just kidding
 
Very interesting thread thank you for your efforts and posting pics.

Can't do substance ID on here bro lol I can send you a pic of what it should look like privately if you would like, I asked a similar question.
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This isnt a substance ID for a start so nothing wrong there. This is a purification issue which is good HR so lets hope this thread doesn't get pulled as its interesting.

Have a couple of questions for the OP. Whats a red sapir batch?

When you filtered the acetone for the final solution prior to drying was it clear or was the liquid coloured/poluted in any way?

note for consideration: Some friends did the uncleaned version at a party and said it was VERY good.
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Often the dirty brown molley is the stuff people prefer as it gives a more full on buzz but I think you are heading in the right direction with this. If you can get clean crystals from this then all good.


Finally im a little unclear about the process you went through.

So just to clarify you crushed up 1G of MDMA powder and washed it with anhydrous acetone.

I assume you mean you were left with 900mG/0.9G of non dissolved powder that you obtained by pouring the powder/acetone through a filter and this 900mG was left in the filter.

The stuff we see in the glass is what came through the filter and contained the acetone and what ever dissolved in it correct?

If that is the case then the crystals depending on how hydrous the acetone was you used is likely to be a mix of impurities and maybe some MDMA.

I would advise you to make up another batch of anhydrous acetone and wash these crystals again and see if you can capture more non dissolved MDMA in the filter.

Was the 900mG of powder like substance you ended up with white and clean looking? Did you evaporate all the acetone properly using a lamp source? Does this powder have any type of smell?
 
Thanks for the reply.

Whats a red sapir batch?
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I posted a post on this forum, you can check it out here.

When you filtered the acetone for the final solution prior to drying was it clear or was the liquid coloured/poluted in any way?
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The acetone was pretty clear. Like water. the bottom was loaded with chunks of epsom salts. (Lots of them.)


Now, about the process. 1g of mdma was crushed up and put into a glass vessel(glass[a] as a name). 20 ml of acetone (dry, supposedly) was added to glass[a]. stirred for 3-5 minutes using a glass rod, let settle. pour out the acetone into a filter above another glass, we'll call that glass. The stuff that was left in glass[a] vessel was washed with some more acetone into a pyrex dish - and let dry.

glass is now full of supposedly dirty acetone. nothing left on the filter but a few grains of gray\black material.
The pics posted are of glass after the acetone was vaporized (a couple of days without a lid.)


the result was not 0.900mg. 0.900 is the amount I lost in the process. I was left with 0.09/0.1 of white\grayish powder. That is a pretty big lost.
 
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There are only two likely possibilities here.
1) The acetone was not anhydrous, because either:
a) It is of a brand that has a high water content and the magnesium sulfate was not able to absorb all of it. (Check the MSDS to rule out this possibility. You can find them online, by brand.
b) The epsom salts were not prepared properly. You need to crush them first as much as possible and then bake them. If you look at them while they are baking, they should get very wet and kind of crusty and then they'll get dry again. Collect that dry material and re-crush it into a fine powder. Then, when you add it to the acetone, swirl it up really well and watch to see if it forms into chunks or remains as a fine powder. The chunks have absorbed water - if some of it stays a fine powder, that means there is no water left to absorb.
2) The stuff in your crystals was mostly something other than MDMA. MDMA is almost absolutely insoluble in acetone. As for the crystals in the bottom of glass b, weigh them. If their weight is a close match to the mass lost from the original (around 0.9g) they are definitely NOT MDMA, because 20-30 ml of dry acetone would never dissolve that much MDMA.

I took a look at the pictures in your other thread and that doesn't look like any MDMA I have ever seen. I've seen a lot of MDMA packaged a lot of different ways and fresh out of synths and I've never seen any that was that color, in chunks like that, or with that glassy sheen. For it to look that way, it was either never MDMA to begin with or it was done after-the-fact for marketing or transportation purposes and does not contribute to it being good MDMA.
 
With the .1G that you are left with has that ended up white or is it still coloured?

Scures suggestion about weighing the stuff in glass B is a good plan.

You could also try investing in some actual Anhydrous Acetone and try that. Do another wash of the crystals in glass B.

Just out of interest Scure if say the Acetone did have high water content wouldnt that mean that the MDMA product would just end up in glass B?

Or would it cause the MDMA dissolved in the water to evaporate? I assume it just ends up in glass B.
 
scureto1, The brand i bought was very generic, from a hardware store near my house. there was no indication on how much percentage acetone is it , but it did just say "Content:Acetone". I do now have any labs around to buy real anhydrous acetone.
This is why I did the epsom salt procedure.

Crushed the salts before putting them in the oven. Took out the epsom salts from the oven after two hours on 200 degrees celsius (thats about 400) - the epsom salts seemed to be sticking to each other - had to scratch them off the tray.
I will try to get a %100 acetone from a different store. and try again.

The jar i used with half liter acetone and 60g of dry epsom salts - The salts inside were very chunky. but how does it makes sense when i put so much epsom salts inside? (I think the recommendation is about 10g salts in one liter acetone.)

futura2012, The .1 i was left with is kind of gray and very very light blueish color. very powdery - no crystals. This is what was left on glass[a].


I will do a test today with EZTEST on the left over crystals , but i think that it has some presence of mdma in it anyway - so it wouldn't prove anything.
 
Update note : Friends tried what was in the photos, just a few crumbles - gave it 11 out of 10. very peculiar.
 
Update note : Friends tried what was in the photos, just a few crumbles - gave it 11 out of 10. very peculiar.
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Sounds like high water content in the acetone despite your anhydrous attempt.

Did you get a chance to weigh the stuff in the pics?

I assume the stuff in the pics tested positive for MDMA was it a strong reaction?
 
futura2012 said:
With the .1G that you are left with has that ended up white or is it still coloured?


Just out of interest Scure if say the Acetone did have high water content wouldnt that mean that the MDMA product would just end up in glass B?

Or would it cause the MDMA dissolved in the water to evaporate? I assume it just ends up in glass B.
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It would just end up in glass B. And from the OP's next post, it sounds like that's what happened. Unless one has an easy, cheap source for it, buying lab-grade 100% acetone is overkill. The epsom salts technique is fine for drying hardware store acetone as long as it is a brand that isn't diluted with water purposefully.
 
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Did you get a chance to weigh the stuff in the pics?

I assume the stuff in the pics tested positive for MDMA was it a strong reaction?
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Didn't weigh it yet, the more accurate scale i ordered is still on its way.
It did tested positive for mdma - straight to black.


Also, I dont think its possible to order acetone in a regular shipment like this. (im not based in the USA), but I did saw a place in my city center that sells acetone with big %100 printed on it. (but seriously, anyone can stick that on it.)
I'm going to try and buy from him, but run the epsom salts on it anyway.

I wish there was a way to check if the acetone is really dry.

I'll update on a 2nd try, i'm very curious as well. Wouldn't adding too much epsom salt to a small amount of acetone make things worse? (like i did?)
 
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