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DOM (5mgs) - First Time - The Spirits of Light and Dark

Piper methysticum

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"The Spirit of Light and Dark (A Report on DOM) Spring 2007"

I recently had the privilege of trying a rare, illegal compound that I acquired through a trusted buddy of mine whom I have known for quite some time now. The compound was already measured carefully in distilled water at a ratio of 1mg per unit, 10mgs per 1cc. I had roughly 150mgs of DOM on hand.

I was very excited to try the material after having a less than inspiring experience with DOC (2mgs), and I was determined to discover that there was a magic letter in the DO"x" sequence of compounds. The "M" was it for me. I was extremely impressed with the material, as I had always been curious about it due to its infamous history among psychedelic experimenters of the 70's.

Well, I suppose I'll get to the story.

It ended up being my best friend and psychedelic companion, "J", whom I have shared the majority of my experiences dealing with rare compounds as well as his girlfriend "L" who decided she wanted to join. We were at my house where I carefully measured 5mgs each for "J" and I and 3mgs for "L." Then, we were off to the lake where "J" lives and the place where many of my entheogenic journey's have taken place. I have written about this place in several of my trip reports now.

I believe we were all feeling the onset around 15 minutes upon arriving at the house which would have been roughly 30 minutes total after ingestion. We were preparing for a rather lengthy hike through the woods during this wonderful evening, gathering the music, backpacks, sweatshirts, water, and of course the flashlight, as we are fond of this particular woods at night. I remember being quite anxious to leave while all this was taking place, and I may have been rushing them slightly. I prefer to start off in a natural setting, as it typically arouses a serene mood, though just being near the lake was enough to keep me reasonably calm.

I suppose that initial anxious feeling was certainly an effect from the DOM. It wasn't long before we were off on our hike and feeling definite effects from the drug. We chose the album "Keys to Ascension" from Yes for our first musical journey as we crossed the creek into the woods. There was a feeling of stimulation flowing through me, as the normally breath taking stroll up the first hill felt like I had just taken a few small steps. That was the amphetamine character.

There was also a background feeling at this point that something extraordinary was about to happen, but it was certainly taking a long time to get there. There was a strange "building" of momentum with this drug. The only way to describe it is that you seem to look back at a certain point after waiting for the next effect and then analyzing it.

After we were further into our hike, probably around the 1 1/2 to 2hr. mark, there was a feeling of exhilaration and euphoria. There were similarities to both LSD and MDA, though none of them were extremes at this point. There was a unique flow with this compound. With the aid of the music, as well as the sunset, we were feeling very powerful as if we were marching with reason and purpose. Even though there were certain psychedelic effects at this point, the amphetamine characteristics were dominant.

However, as we turned back on the path as to evade walking through the lake campgrounds, the woods took on the form very similar to the cover art of a "Yes" album. Oh, the wonders of the subconscious mind. We were all feeling quite serene after we rested a bit, though that feeling of power had not dissipated. We were in the "Light." There was no typical realization yet, because our second musical choice had not come, but our first experience was a spirit of "Light." There were no negatives to be felt in a psychological sense. I say this because "J" is quite sensitive to amphetamine qualities, and he was already feeling it in his chest. I felt fine of course.

We all marched and watched as the visuals swirled about the dark and illuminated the skylines with vibrant, rainbow-esque color patterns. We took rest back at the house, yet there was something looming in my mind. This was far from over, and "J" and I both knew it as we passed the Cannabis pipe back and forth. We would have to depart for another adventure. In the beginning I had prepared to take a hike along the other side of the lake, but once we had left we both went on auto-pilot and did what we were comfortable with. This drug was far more intense than I had imagined judging by my DOC experience.

Right before we left, "J" and I looked at each other as we often do, and without words, communication came. "We have to get out of the house." "L" did not participate in the smoking of herb because she was already in the midst of a more intense experience than we had previously been in. She was thoroughly enjoying herself.

As we were walking down the road again toward the area where we crossed the creek, I noticed that the herb pushed me toward the peak of the experience. I had completely lost connection with reality, and so did "J." I looked at him, and simply stated, "I am extremely gone." I had once again escaped the realm of time. Everything went distant, yet so near to the heart. Thick visuals swirled about the neon road. It was difficult to walk, as walking seemed quite pointless. We weren't really going anywhere. Physically we were, but mentally, I was in a completely different space. Time had stopped. Fear and awe crept over me. I have rarely had such an intense experience.

I think at this point, I had scared "J" a bit, as he was very quiet. He seemed worried. I didn't mean to, but I was feeling the same fear, yet I wasn't as bothered by it. I welcomed and embraced it. I knew I was perfectly fine. A little later I realized why "J" had that reaction, but for now, I was void of reason. All I knew is that we had to get off of the road as quickly as possible. There aren't many cars that go by at night there, but to be sure, we headed back into the woods. Yes, we were that intoxicated. It was amazing to me. The colors were shining like the sun. Thick textures that you could taste and smell. There were so many layers! I have never seen this many layers before. It just kept going and going like a spiraling kaleidoscope unending and forever unbound to the forces of the universe.

Soon, while approaching the hill we had so easily strolled up earlier, "L's" voice finally broke through. The flashlight gazed up onto the path, and the words "It's kind of creepy this time" echoed in my head as they left her. I had almost forgot I had put King Crimson's "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" in. The music just seemed to flow with the intense visual extremes. It was more seen than heard; more felt than thought about, yet there were thoughts streaming from the subconscious pertaining to the visuals introduced by the flow of the music. Twisted, confused, perplexed we walked until "J" had enough and was slain to his knees, praying out to God. I had never seen such an extreme reaction out of him. Reality was getting to him, and I believe he feared for his girlfriend even though she was completely fine.

Seeing how intoxicated we seemed, "L" started to think we were messing with her, though we were merely hoping to make sense of something along the way of this deep, dark place. The spirit of "Dark" had come. The music took us to many places, each new feeling vastly different from the last. Some were unnerving, some peaceful but always dark. "What an incredible album," I thought. I don't want to write an album review, but for sure, that has to be some of the most intelligent, complex music I have ever heard in my life. The twisting and turning of emotion was vast. Everything seemed close again. Very close. There were shadow figures spinning on frails of textured patterns spiraling through the woods like witches on broomsticks.

I cannot even explain how wonderful the visual effects of this drug were. I had been more mesmerized by the visions of 2C-E as far as semi-synthetic phenethylamines go, but this was different. This was LSD-like. Very much so. In fact, it reminded me of high dose LSD trips, but there was an emotional content similar to empathogens with the lengthy mechanism of action of the Mescaline cacti. None the less, it was quite unique and had a high intensity level. It is not something I would ever consider giving to novice users.

We took another rest at a place along the path, and "L" stated, "I guess we'll be sitting here for a while. "Might as well," I said. There wasn't much else to do. There was that anxious feeling again, though it wasn't as noticeable now that we were in the midst of the experience. Finally, we made it to a big rock where we all sat for a great while.

I remember hearing the music and feeling that separation of being again. The flashlight was off, and it was very dark. The visuals think. I thought, "maybe if we turn the flashlight on, we'll be able to see better." Nope. I found myself with the flashlight in hand, pointed at the ground, staring. The plain rocks and stones on the path looked beautifully intricate like wonderfully sculptured sea shells in many light colors. This was amazing.

Then, "J" ended up having an emotional outburst about his life as far as his passions and frustrations go. Whatever was hidden within him came flying out like gunfire.

One thing he mentioned later about the compound is that you cannot kept your feelings hidden. Everything is revealed; laid out on the table and discussed. I listened with concern and compassion. I understood where these things were stemming from even though I didn't quite agree with some of the things he said. He was just having a difficult time dealing with the way he felt about himself, but we made it through. He seemed bothered by feeling as though he was putting a damper on a good time, but I assured him that I didn't come out there to merely have a good time. I never do when it comes to these experiences. Always prepare for the unexpected.

Not too long after this, "J" felt better as we all noticed the effects dissipating. I remember him saying, "Yeah! I feel like I'm peaking on Acid!." That's how intense of an experience we shared together. We felt the same, but interpreted it differently. There was just a place that he felt uncomfortable being in, and it was certainly coming from his sensitivity to amphetamines. I mean, I see it that there is a little more to it than that. I think it was meant to happen because he let go of alot of things that may have never been released sober. I just hope it taught him something, as I was having a wonderful time knowing that I would definitely travel via DOM again.

I also remember him asking me a few times, "Are you sure you've tripped this hard before?," revealing to me that he was having difficulty handling the experience. This is coming from an "experienced traveler," as A. Shulgin would put it. Be careful when experimenting with psychedelics, as there is always that element of surprise. Even an experienced user can become frightened. This reminded me that my experimentation should have nothing to do with fueling the ego. I never want my thinking to venture into the realm of seeing "how far I can go." Take things for what they are, and you might just find beauty in them.

"L" seemed perfectly fine. She was having a blast, in fact. Finally, "J" got ahold of his emotions and he had the flashlight, looking at the sparkler box laying on the ground. "Normal textures!" he announced. "I can see normal textures!" We were all coming back to reality, though it would be a while before baseline, as this was probably around 6-8hrs. into the trip. We spent the rest of the time relaxing at "J's," and having some laughs. It was a mind blowing experience.

The next day, having got a couple hours of sleep somehow, came as a pleasant surprise. I felt great. I am not talking about a normal afterglow though. This was far from normal, yet the psychedelic effects were gone. What was left over seemed like a whole different aspect to the experience. I felt like I was peaking on some good amphetamines or Methamphetamine. I was running around from apartment to apartment telling friends of mine the whole experience over and over again. I felt like I might crash hard, yet no crash ever came. Just a soft drifting off into a long sleep. No negative after effects were there. A more than pleasant experience indeed.

DOM was certainly a plus in my book. I found it to be fully as impressive as LSD and MDA as far as human altered substances go. I can't really compare it to 2C-E (my favorite semi-synthetic if I had to name one) because of the type of character it has. It is not like other phenethylamines. There is something really intense about it, and only before and after you reach that "point" is it forgiving. There is an explosive peak similar to Mescaline's effects, but it feels like something far more intense in the mind than the spirit. The way it courses through the body and brain reminds me of Mescaline, but the visuals and body experience are intense like LSD and MDA. However, the whole experience is uniquely DOM.

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Extension of DOM: (From "J's Perspective)

I talked to “J” today about this experience, and he told me a few things from his experience that I wanted to mention.

The point where I mentioned the shadow figures, he seen something very similar. There were two figures. One was white, one was black, and they were spinning on a wind. This furthers my “Light” and “Dark” perspective.

At one point we had to remind him that he collapsed and when he got up, he said he saw the lights get up and walk away from him.

Again, there was a point, similar to when I saw the seashells, he was overwhelmed by seeing the eyeballs in the night. He turned on the flashlight, went over to the other side of the path, looked at a piece of moss, it flipped over, turned into an eyeball, and blinked at him.

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Excellent report! I don't see a lot of DOM reports, but I'm always glad when I do. Even better is when someone goes into as much detail as you have. I would love to get an opportunity to try this chemical. It sounds to me like the best DOx because of the duration, supposed MDMA like euphoria and energy, and the classical psychedelic head space and visuals. This report is very clear, and it reveals much about the actual nature of this chemical.
 
Yeah, thanks for the great report. I wish I had used mine with less psychedelic tolerance/desensitization. I hope I can locate some more sometime in the future.
 
amazing report, very detailed. can't wait to take DOM for a good spin, it sounds pretty epic.. :]
 
DOM is capable of kicking your arse just as effectively as LSD can, so don't go thinking that because it's just alpha-methylated 2C-D, it'll be gentle; it's anything but. For a first dose, I'd recommend 3mg unless extremely experienced with psychedelics
 
Whats the best setting for DOM you think FB?

piper I reread some bits from here this morning and enjoyed it as much as I did the first reading!

I want to collect your TRs so I can have them for long-term to show friends interested in these chemicals...your TRs REALLY give a good impression of the chemical (at least I can confirm this with the ones I've tried of your TRs).
 
^ Somewhere that you can burn off the excess energy that comes on during the first couple of hours. Not giving vent to that energy seems to be the main cause of unpleasant experiences with DOM, esp with higher doses ie 5mg+


BTW, the colour enhancement with DOM is almost beyond belief, better than either LSD, psilocybin & possibly even mescaline IMO
 
That was a beautifully written report.
I will be trying my sample of DOM this summer, most likely at a festival setting (will definately hve the ability to burn off energy by dancing like a maniac).
I was initially thinking of dosing higher but i think 5mg sounds about right for me now as i havent been indulging in psychedelics all that often lately.
 
Pleasant domain.

Thanks for the great report Piper. I like your approach to it. You seem to like a heavy dose of prog rock with you adventures. I'm looking forward to a go with this substance in a while. Just waiting for any tolerance to clear and a couple of days off work. I will probably start at 5mg, because I don't want to miss the sweet spot first time and have to wait for ages before trying for a more succesfull dose. If this is reckless, perhaps people will let me know.
 
doesn't sound too reckless as long as you have a very safe setting and you are experienced with possibly intense/overly stimulating psychedelic experiences.

Consider that most people trying it in the 60s ate 10-20mg, I would say you'll be fine.
 
Consider that most people trying it in the 60s ate 10-20mg, I would say you'll be fine.

If you mean the ones who ate the 'pink wedges' that Owsley produced & was given away, the initial 20mg/wedge dose put a hell of a lot in psyche hospital for a couple of days and some suffered what would now be classified as PTSD. After hearing of the disaster, Owsley dropped it to 10mg/tablet dose and it still caused some freak outs (and some of them were veteran acid eaters)
 
well, I mean he was not asking to eat 10-20mg and considering that a LOT of people did eat that much and were fine, I'd say he'd be fine at 5mg.

Maybe it IS flawed logic?
 
PippUK said:
Thanks for the great report Piper. I like your approach to it. You seem to like a heavy dose of prog rock with you adventures. I'm looking forward to a go with this substance in a while. Just waiting for any tolerance to clear and a couple of days off work. I will probably start at 5mg, because I don't want to miss the sweet spot first time and have to wait for ages before trying for a more succesfull dose. If this is reckless, perhaps people will let me know.


Thank you first of all.

Yes, I definitely go with the progressive rock/metal for alot of my adventures. I also include ambient music such as Enigma and Cathedral Oceans, as well as tribal music. It all depends on my mood.

Once in a while I get into some really strange stuff including trance (Trance Control, Hallucinogen, Infected Mushroom) and some stray songs that I wouldn't even know what genre to place them in.

There is a certain song I love, and I don't even know the artist. I found it a while back, and when you are in the midst of an experience, it will put you in a strange "world."

As far as 5mgs being a good start, as long as you are well experienced with psychedelics, I think it is the perfect start. If you are overly sensitive to amphetamine type stimulation you may want to go for 3.5-4mgs, but 5mgs should be fine.

Also, if you smoke herb, smoke some once you are about 3hrs. into the trip. That is if you like using Cannabis to enhance psychedelic experiences. I am selective when it comes to that choice.

However, be careful. If you hit it at just the right point, you will spin out of control for a while. God, I love that feeling!
 
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Your write up made DOM sound like high resolution acid or something, like it takes ya deep inside; to that most intense magnification of attitude and outlook.

I have a vial of this shit on ice, but I can't think of any reason why to take it.
 
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Awesome report. DOM is one of those Ive regarded highly from the start just because of its track record through the last few decades and since it's been one of those underground substances thats sought after since the beginning.

DOC was powerful as hell but I have no desire to ever trip for that long again on such a hardcore substance. And DOB is inferior in most aspects for me, mediocre stuff. But DOM sounds like much more of a winner... definitely not easy to get your hands on though.
 
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