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doing a 5week trip to europe - from australia for tomorrowland 2012

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chicken Nipples

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hi guys,
a couple friend and us [the gf and i] are wanting to go to tomorrowland, next year, so we're gonna make a trip of it and go for 5 weeks.
we havent got dates sorted yet but were looking at flying to london, buy a car or something, go to paris, belgium [tomorrowland=D], amsterdam, then germany [for another music festival not long after tomorrowland, i forget its name] and then from there were not sure? then sell the car [or whats left of it:D] and head home.

does anyone know places that might sell cars, ready to drive away for what were after? combi or van would be great, we plan to rough it a little, were not after the 5 star lifestyle. something 4 ppl could sleep in if need be.

clubs or night scenes we should see? were all into trance rave sorta stuff, but love everything electro [except dub-step, only i like that:\]


so, were curious about drugs, whats the go, what not to do, laws and fines etc etc. obviously they change from country to country right, so it a bit of a vauge question to ask for answers

would it be a bad idea to buy a bulk amount and travel with it, cross boarders etc? i reckon it will be but id rather find one good batch and stick with it than random stuff at the events or clubs etc.

in australia we've given up on ecstasy, with all the bunk around, but should we steer clear of them over there?

cocaine - from what i read and hear from a irish chick i know, its about 1/20th the price compared to here, and purity is pretty good compared ['who you know' im sure]. is it 'safe', as far as being a tourist buying it? ripped off or cut?

im sure ill have more questions, but ill leave it at this for now, and thanks ahead for any input or tips!
 
All the Aussies here (slight exaggeration) live, work and sell their camper vans in Earls Court. Can't remember the name of the road but pretty sure it still exists, where vans are lined up for sale. Ask in any pub in Earls Ct or Hammersmith. Other than that we have plenty of 2nd hand rip-off merchants to go to.

Don't drive drugs across borders especially in a camper van. You will get caught.

Cheap coke here is bunk. £100 a g is slightly less bunk.

Ecstasy is hit and miss. Probably miss if you're buying from a random.

Better to get caught in Amsterdam or Germany than UK.
 
thanks!!

when you say bunk, how bunk? lol we havent done coke, and the other couple may have had it once or twice, but only aussi stuff, which is ment to be utter shit

is "molly" around much? or do you have to be in a 'circle' for it?
 
Over here in the UK we call molly 'Mandy'. It's very common if you're in the right place (raves, parties, the right sort of club nights), although I don't do it any more so I can't comment on the quality I'm afraid. As far as the coke goes, I honestly wouldn't bother with anything less than £80 a gram. It's not a good experience and just a waste of money.
 
we can't help you with any specifics about scoring, and will have to close the thread if it looks too much like thats what you're after.

for a general idea of the current mdma situation check the regional mdma thread or pillreports. mdma is about in the UK but there's still bunk too. i gather its pretty rare in france- certainly was '07- and overfloweth in the 'dam.

as shm said, do not drive across borders carrying drugs. iirc posters have previously said driving in france carrying drugs is in itself a big risk.

have an amazing time, you'll be in some fantastic places.
 
nah not looking for sources, just asking for info about how the situation is overseas, quality and the do's and dont's being a tourist. as far as im aware [and id think alot of australians think] europe is pretty relaxed about drugs compared to australia, quality is up and availibility is up, in my limited opinion of the matter that is. so i ask so im not going over with false hope, info or ideas.
 
First off. Do not carry drugs over boarders, simply not worth it.

I went to Tomorrowland this year. Making the trip from Australia again next year, because it is simply the best festival in the world that I have been to. Everything is pretty much easily accessible. We got our stuff from the Netherlands, and bought it over. Wasn't worth it. Good quality stuff, but police with dogs in many places in Belgium. If you get caught, your screwed.

I've been able to get nearly everything in the countries you listed. Stuff in europe is a lot more easy to score then in Australia. Street dealers will have better quality gear then I have been ever been able to get in Australia.

I recommend any warehouse parties in London. Pretty much all clubs in Berlin. And if you've never been, you must go Ibiza. You will have the best time of your life, and i'm sure you will score the best MDMA of your life.

If there's a few of you's. Then I guess a van would be smart. But if there's only 2. I think budget airlines are the best. If you can pack a 10kg bag each, preferably 6kg. You can save a lot of time and money, by buying flights in advance. With carry on luggage only. No check in's needed at the airport, and no need to be at the airport early. Me and a few friends did this, only took 6kg each. And got most flights through out europe for around $35 each. In summer you really don't need many clothes.

Also just because the MDMA is amazing here, don't over do it. You'll regret it later on.
 
thanks for the reply! i didnt realise Ibiza was close enough! were thinking of heading towards rome, but i reckon the others will love the idea of ibiza!
theres 4 of us, but ill look into local flights around, save time and maybe save money? but, we will miss those 'back street' sights if we fly around, which we want to see instead of just the common places
 
I think it would be easier to ask more direct questions regarding specific countries and places you will be visiting. In some parts of Europe it easier to find mdma than others, and the same applies to most substances. Do not plan on traveling with a stash in your van, you will get caught.
 
yeah, thanks for the input guys,
we dont just wanna go for a big binge, lol, otherwise we'd just go for a week to tomorrowland, but we do like to party!

if were gonna go, we wanna get the most from it, so travel, party, see the 'back street' sights that dont get thrown in your face on tv, live it like a broke back packer and travel in some style. we're all treating this like a once in a life time trip [well, for the other couple, theyve wanted to go for the last 10 years! hes just turned 30 so its now or never he says...]
 
chicken Nipples said:
nah not looking for sources, just asking for info about how the situation is overseas, quality and the do's and dont's being a tourist. as far as im aware [and id think alot of australians think] europe is pretty relaxed about drugs compared to australia, quality is up and availibility is up, in my limited opinion of the matter that is. so i ask so im not going over with false hope, info or ideas.
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hit me up a private msg when you can, from melb also doing a similar trip like you guys!
 
The coke over here is fucking awful unless you hang about with people who know how to get decent coke, avoid all things coke at the moment

MDMA is pretty lush at the moment although theres some naff pills going around the UK, the mandy (MD crystal) is nearly always decent stuff although if you buy it as powder then you will be ripped off. Pills are always decent in the netherlands mind

Ketamine is a funny one working its way across Europe that you may not have heared off and is pretty decent for going out/chilling out on when you've smashed the MD a bit too hard

Psychadelics can be a hard find but may be plentiful in festivals and are always worth a go, and as a general rule are easier to come by in the Benelux.

Don't get caught smuggling drugs over borders, they are very clued in over here, the UK/France Eurotunnel border being one of the worst offenders, we nearly got caught trying to get firecrackers back over. And try not to get caught with drugs in the UK, although most of our coppers are thick as pigshit, they can still throw some pretty hefty charges your way. Also don't drink and drive, don't know how the penalties are in Australia but you will get unmercifully fucked in the UK

Insurance is one thing that you can get fucked on, countries have different rules about how insurance is applied (For instance germany insures cars and the UK insures a person driving a car). Make sure the van has an MOT (or equivalent), insurance and road tax or you WILL get caught by ANPR and probably have the vehicle searched and crushed.

Visas outside the UK/Eire are a doddle and only need the one (Schengen) for most of europe
 
Here in Amsterdam we have the best pills in Europe (and probably the world if not China) and they are extremely easy to find at any event (just go and straight up ask people), the price is 5 euros per pill and the pills you should ask for are:

Defqon Reds (170mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Defqon Blues (190-200mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Ferraris (240mg MDMA, and something fucking trippy as shit that makes the whole day after the party a very fun day)
Witte Speakers (220mg MDMA, speed)

As for the law shit, if you get caught asking/with less than 6 pills at an event you will just be asked to give them away or leave.
 
MeSKAline said:
Here in Amsterdam we have the best pills in Europe (and probably the world if not China) and they are extremely easy to find at any event (just go and straight up ask people), the price is 5 euros per pill and the pills you should ask for are:

Defqon Reds (170mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Defqon Blues (190-200mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Ferraris (240mg MDMA, and something fucking trippy as shit that makes the whole day after the party a very fun day)
Witte Speakers (220mg MDMA, speed)

As for the law shit, if you get caught asking/with less than 6 pills at an event you will just be asked to give them away or leave.
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Where are you getting your analysis from mate? I thought you guys had test centers and all the pills you just listed were pure md?
 
Defqon Reds (170mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Defqon Blues (190-200mg MDMA, speed, 2cb)
Ferraris (240mg MDMA, and something fucking trippy as shit that makes the whole day after the party a very fun day)
Witte Speakers (220mg MDMA, speed)
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There is no speed or 2cb in any of those pills. And the Ferraris are not 240mg.

All the above pills are MDMA and vary from the red defqons at 150- the ferraris at 220 (that's minimum and maximum).

Coke you should forget about buying on your trip to europe unless your in the Netherlands, you won't find good stuff in the UK if your only here for a few days. The general rule is 80-100£ a gram for proper cocaine, don't bother with the £40 stuff.

As has already been said don't attempt to take drugs over any boarders particularly into france and belgium they're pretty strict there. Wouldn't advise buying bulk when on holiday either, good chance knowing nobody you'll be getting a poor deal anyway, especially being aussie because everyone knows there's no good drugs there and it's expensive.
 
For the travel advice you want better to go ask on Lonely Planet or something. You'll get better advice.

Na'vi said:
Over here in the UK we call molly 'Mandy'.
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I've never actually heard anyone in real life use the word 'Mandy' for MDMA. Only on BL
 
TheSpade said:
I've never actually heard anyone in real life use the word 'Mandy' for MDMA. Only on BL
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I was actually going to say that too but I thought it'd just be interpreted as me being snooty and dismissive.

Now you mention it though, I've never heard it outside of BL, and I'd find it extremely odd if somebody did. Same as I've never heard anyone call pills 'beans' either.

Maybe it's a regional thing?
 
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