Dog Sex Case (+ wider zoophile debate)

[faris]

Your husband could have just been looking at it for the yuck-factor. It's the same reason people go to rotten.com or watch the 2girls1cup video. Sometimes it's fun (or something like fun) to watch things purely for how disgusting and strange they are. It's why they have freak shows and such. I have seen videos and pictures of bestiality, but because it's fun to see people do depraved and gross things, not because I like to whack off to it.

If you start seeing it on a regular basis then you might have something to worry about...

to be honest, that's what i was thinking....purely for a "yuck" factor, because someone would actually allow that to happen to themselves, etc... but thanks for the reassurance.

 

[S.M.F.G]

wow the shit that comes outta oklahoma
bow wow in fact

 

[PooterIntruder]

Oh yeah, back to the OP. I think it would be more appropriate to treat zoos with compassion than to prosecute them. A while ago, I read some of our friend Fausty's posts on zoophilia. They were very eye-opening. I went from thinking he worked at a 'zoo,' to thinking he was an elaborate troll, to thinking that dude is into something nasty as hell, to accepting him and realizing it's nobody's business as long as nobody is being abused. He eventually indicated that as a small boy, he had been abused in one of the most unthinkable ways. He later speculated that this could have triggered his own zoophilia.

It is people like you I find more disgusting than people that fuck animals...those that try to be so open-minded you accept ther most depraved of actions & sicknesses. Honestly, would you accept it if your son or daughter was fucking a goddamned animal? Or would it break your heart your child was a sick fuck?

 

[SpaceWanderer]

It is people like you I find more disgusting than people that fuck animals...those that try to be so open-minded you accept ther most depraved of actions & sicknesses. Honestly, would you accept it if your son or daughter was fucking a goddamned animal? Or would it break your heart your child was a sick fuck?

A lot of people would say the same thing about you for posting on bluelight.

 

[PooterIntruder]

^^why would they say that about me because I post on BL? It is nowhere the same as having sex with an animal. Not by a longshot. But I am curious, would you accept your child as a dog fucker?

 

[qwe]

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IMHO- mental illnesses stem from chemical imbalances and/or a disturbing upbringing, this was just a scheme for popularity or money. It seems cheap to relate this case to anyone that suffers from a real mental illness. >>

having a different sexuality is not a mental illness

girraffes can think that a jeep is their mother if there is only a jeep around when they are born. later in life, they will try to mate with jeeps

same with ducks and ping pong balls

your sexuality, and entire personality, is based on what senses you are recieving during the important 'imprinting' periods, where your brain is vulnerable to being shaped by its environment

so to sum, your sexuality and personality are accidental and when we define an illness, we are doing so very arbitrarily

 

[qwe]

^^why would they say that about me because I post on BL? It is nowhere the same as having sex with an animal. Not by a longshot. But I am curious, would you accept your child as a dog fucker?

1. they would say the same aobut you because if a parent learns their child uses drugs, things get shitty. 'where did i go wrong with my parenting???' that sort of thing

2. i would accept my child if their sexuality leaned towards non-human animals

drugs are illegal for the same reason sex with dogs is illegal. we are continuing the prosecution of people who have taboo ways of being happy or forming bonds or attaining spiritual states or whatever else. it's been going on since the middle ages at least

 

[Mariposa]

Some of you are very lucky that your moderation team is made up of nice hardworking folks and that they haven't warned some of your asses.

Back on topic: the only one I really feel sorry for is the woman's son who found the zooporn. Imagine not only finding pornography of your mother and her boyfriend, but of your mother having sex with dogs... yikes.

The adults were stupid enough to take that kind of video and then try to sell it. Sex with animals is somewhat of a gray area within the law. Pornography involving animals is outright illegal most places, and possession w/intent to distribute that type of pornography in the US is probably illegal. I'm not sure whether it's worth incarcerating people over; that's an ethical question I haven't fully resolved.

 

[PooterIntruder]

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having a different sexuality is not a mental illness

So necrophilia is not an illness? Fucking dogs/cats/chickens/cows/etc when you are a human being is not an illness? Surely you don't actually belive that? But perhaps zoophilia is not the only mental illness, but stems from a deeper illnes.
Also qew, I am sure shit hits the fan when people learn of thier kids drugs use, but which is worse..catching your daughter with a joint or learning she tried X..or finding her being fucked by a dog?

Yes Mariposa, we sure are lucky we have not been censored or warned by mods on a message board! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!!

 

[mulberryman]

but which is worse..catching your daughter with a joint or learning she tried X..or finding her being fucked by a dog?

The former, obviously. At least you can pull the dog off her back, that monkey will stay there for the rest of her life.

 

[Mariposa]

So necrophilia is not an illness? Fucking dogs/cats/chickens/cows/etc when you are a human being is not an illness? Surely you don't actually belive that? But perhaps zoophilia is not the only mental illness, but stems from a deeper illnes.
Also qew, I am sure shit hits the fan when people learn of thier kids drugs use, but which is worse..catching your daughter with a joint or learning she tried X..or finding her being fucked by a dog?

Yes Mariposa, we sure are lucky we have not been censored or warned by mods on a message board! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!!

There is absolutely no good reason for the rude tone of your posts. You are also misinformed if you think that zoophilia is a mental illness. It was removed from the DSM-IV in the second-to-latest revision, along with homosexuality.

I too find the idea of having sex with an animal unpalatable, but zoophilia is not a mental illness. It is more common than you realize as well -- we may have one high-profile zoo on Bluelight, but I assure you he is not the only one.

The whole story to me is just people doing shit on video that can get them in trouble. Stupid x 5000.

 

[SpaceWanderer]

The former, obviously. At least you can pull the dog off her back, that monkey will stay there for the rest of her life.

Don't you know about the infamous "tie?" She could be seriously injured if you pull off the dog before he finishes.
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt by speculating that this is that couple's sexuality and that no animal abuse is involved. To me, it's gross and making and selling those videos is in bad taste and in an ethical gray area, but it doesn't affect me so I don't care. I wouldn't ostracize somebody for being a zoo. They are adults and it's nobody's business. But I feel sorry for their son.
"Puter":
As far as chickens, cats, and other small animals go, this is abuse because it would obviously injure the animal and require some form of coercion.
Informational websites like bluelight are illegal and censored in some countries. This subject matter is very controversial almost everywhere, including the US. Drug use is sometimes punished by death in some countries. By posting here, you are tacitly implying that drug use is OK and the war against drugs is bad, at least in some cases. Why do so few people post their real names on bluelight? So in real life, I'm usually pretty open about what I think of drug laws and the war on drugs. There are plenty of people who refuse to even speak to me anymore, which is just as well, because I support legalization or at least decriminalization. One common emotional reacion by these people is a variation of the "Won't somebody please think of the children!?" response that you just made. This is an appeal to emotion and of course a logical fallacy. Anybody who reacts this way has pretty much shut themselves down intellectually and further conversation on the subject is impossible.
I agree with most of qwe's opinion except for the part about the daughter. If the daughter were under 18 and still lived at home, I would honestly be concerned and encourage her seek counsulling. At the same time, I would still accept it. I don't understand why some people are zoos. Maybe there is a deeper issue, a traumatic event, or [edit: not a mental illness. Thanks Mariposa for pointing this out.] that triggered it. Maybe not. As qwe says, it isn't understood very well and could be perfectly natural. But seeing the abuse that zoos like Fausty have received on bluelight and in real life, counselling would still be a good idea in helping to prepare her for how people are going to react if and when they find out.

 

[mulberryman]

^Look, right now, my cat is sitting on my lap, and obviously, I don't love my cat like these ppl love their goats and ponies and whatnot, but, even me just sitting here, petting my cat, treating it like it was somehow a human child is WRONG. Why is it wrong? Because it does not further the development of the human race. Now some may argue that cats still serve some kind of function, keeping mice away or what-have-you, and maybe if I lived in Somalia, that might even still be true. But I live in the United States of America, and there's already an overabundance of these things around here.

Later on, I'm probably gonna smoke a joint. I'm gonna smoke a joint, because I feel the desire to do so, and that is WRONG. Smoking that joint will not further the development of the human race, and if it were anything harder than just a joint, it would probably do a whole lot of damage to my DNA. In fact, that joint, is probably also gonna damage my DNA, but because I am ADDICTED, I am unable to see that.

Finally, I hate having to type all this stuff in, but right now, GOD is PISSED. (And I wonder why.)

So, ban me if you feel the need to, but do so knowing this: that today, on BL, anyone who thinks that wanting to having sex with animals is a s*****m of a m****l i*****s, or that using d***s can be d*******s, is apparently not welcome here.

 

[tobala]

So necrophilia is not an illness? Fucking dogs/cats/chickens/cows/etc when you are a human being is not an illness? Surely you don't actually belive that? But perhaps zoophilia is not the only mental illness, but stems from a deeper illnes.
Also qew, I am sure shit hits the fan when people learn of thier kids drugs use, but which is worse..catching your daughter with a joint or learning she tried X..or finding her being fucked by a dog?

Yes Mariposa, we sure are lucky we have not been censored or warned by mods on a message board! FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!!!

Your position obviously stems from a platform of ignorance, and you're making blowharded spiels about things that, gee, you don't really know all that much about.

The problem is that you're calling other people filthy and disgusting merely because their mind-sets remain inquisitive about topics which are indeed repulsive to many people. Of course, homosexuality was repulsive to a large segment of society at one time, but that seems to be changing as people learn more about it.

You've been allowed to have your say and express your opinions about this topic--but if it moves into personal attacks against people merely for being open-minded, you will be warned. It has nothing to do with censorship--just good manners. If you're incapable of handling this kind of material in a civil fashion, find another forum to participate in.

 

[Mariposa]

Space Wanderer: I think it's been established (and it's also common sense) that sex with animals isn't without risk, not just physically, but think about it this way: there is a group of people more universally reviled than drug users. There is no doubt that this woman and her bf, will be forever associated with "bestiality porn". I imagine she'll need special protection in prison.

Just another dumbass doing dumb things on video, only the twist is obviously the train-wreck value of the scenario.

 

[tobala]

Well there are plenty who might say "pooter intrusions" are dangerous (and disgusting), and its practitioners deserving of inclusion in the DSM-IV because, after all, sticking dicks or other objects up someones rear is an "illness" (bung holes are made for shitting and not for fucking, right?).

At that point, it becomes a competition between ass-fuckers and dog-fuckers (and maybe even dog-ass fuckers) to see who is the bigger "pervert."

 

[Mariposa]

Tobala: exactly, thus the basis for laws prohibiting "sodomy" remaining on the books some places. The line tends to get drawn in front of zoophilia for the majority of people (even some zoos themselves -- they're not on the whole a peaceful bunch). I don't think evolution provides enough of a framework, though the fact that humans are incapable of interspecies reproduction could add a point in that column. The term "sodomy" itself refers to sexual acts that are non-procreative in nature, why there is a blanket prohibition on non-procreative sex is beyond me.

The ones screaming that it's wrong from the pulpit or political soapbox who later are discovered to be adulterers and pedophiles are the most disgusting of all. And very often they are "hoist by their own petard" -- I can't go so far to laugh when I think about marriages being irretrievably broken and people having sex with children, but it holds a particular form of justice in my mind when such individuals are caught. I don't see having sex with animals as being quite as harmful as that.

I couldn't imagine having the kind of emotional or physical connection with a non-human that would lead to sex. But some people can; some people do not feel right having sex with other people, but do feel right having sex with animals. Is it necessary to treat zoophiles as subhuman even if we find the acts themselves disgusting/morally repugnant? No. Most of us here in CEP are not zoophiles, but we do eat meat. How is fucking an animal worse than eating one? I ask in the abstract, because I'm in the majority who eats meat and fucks only people. The suicide rate among zoophiles is far higher than in the general population. Not surprising. The challenges faced by a "dog-fucking sexual pervert" who many (erroneously) consider "mentally ill" are beyond what most of us who live a more normative lifestyle could or will adequately grasp.

I kind of figured this debate would eventually resurface in one form or another. I am hoping (perhaps foolishly) that this time around it won't go down in flames, because clearly there are people who are capable of discussing zoophilia in a mature manner.

 

[mulberryman]

Well, there's a lot of things wrong with our society, but to connect the dots... sorry, I give up.

 

[SpaceWanderer]

Mulberryman, I was wondering what you were trying to say in your last couple of posts. They don't make any sense to me.

Well there are plenty who might say "pooter intrusions" are dangerous (and disgusting), and its practitioners deserving of inclusion in the DSM-IV because, after all, sticking dicks or other objects up someones rear is an "illness" (bung holes are made for shitting and not for fucking, right?).

At that point, it becomes a competition between ass-fuckers and dog-fuckers (and maybe even dog-ass fuckers) to see who is the bigger "pervert."

The hypocrisy boggles my mind on many levels. Here is a person with a screen name that proclaims his fondness for anal sex, an activity that is still very controversial. Then he posts abusive comments on a drug discussion website because I express tolerance of zoophilia. I find him hard to believe. I think he might be trolling for a reaction.

Mariposa: The suicide rate among zoophiles is far higher than in the general population. Not surprising. The challenges faced by a "dog-fucking sexual pervert" who many (erroneously) consider "mentally ill" are beyond what most of us who live a more normative lifestyle could or will adequately grasp."

Just from the reactions in this thread and Fausty's threads, I can very well imagine the hate that zoos must encounter or fear encountering if they are outed is horrible beyond belief and very difficult to cope with.

 

[bravo-6]

I could not help myself curiosity killed the cat and the satisfaction brought him back.
I watched the 2 girl’s 1 cup video; I was completely shocked I can’t look at women the same way. Holy Shit. I think that people in general like to be shocked. We like to push the bounders of or senses and perceptions. Just like people are thrill seeker and crave to be scared. I really don’t know if Bestiality is a mental illness or not I tried to do some research and found nothing on it. I did do a Google search on bestiality and was amazed at the number of sites that I found. There must be a market for it. I was surprised. I do not morally agree with having sex with animals and I think it’s disgusting. I have never met anybody that has done it. So I don’t know what their mind set is. I would like to talk to a chic that is in to bestiality and ask her why she would do that and how she can be ok with it. It seems so crazy to me I can’t understand what someone would take way from an experience like that.

Mariposa:”Some of you are very lucky that your moderation team is made up of nice hardworking folks and that they haven't warned some of your asses.”I don’t understand what you’re talking about here.

Mariposa: The suicide rate among zoophiles is far higher than in the general population. Not surprising. The challenges faced by a "dog-fucking sexual pervert" who many (erroneously) consider "mentally ill" are beyond what most of us who live a more normative lifestyle could or will adequately grasp."
Where are you getting your statistics from? I have tried to do research on this and it being a mental illness and found nothing. Is this a real statistic what’s your source?