Heroin Does this experience seem normal for insufflation?

[ShaunG]

I posted this in another thread, but it was not asking about the experience as I have here. I have used H from 2 sources in the past 6 months. I do not do it often (maybe every 3-4 weeks) and I am scripted 10mg Vicodin daily along with 1mg Xanax daily which I usually do not take in combination with H. I get a half g and split it with a friend and use for a few days. The thing is that I have had two really different experiences. I am not sure if this is because of the type of H or just different qualities or both. I am new to it so figured I would ask here. I snorted it both times.

The first time it was pretty dark brown and broke up into a chunky powder. I snorted a thumbnail and felt ok and then snorted another thumbnail. It tasted really earthy. I had instant euphoria from head to toe after about 20 minutes and was really itchy. I then had a slight nod and oxy type warmth for the next few hours. I would compare this to snorting Opana with more Euphoria. It lingered for about 8 hours or so. This was a very cool experience.

Now, the few times since then has been a different source cuz the other one is no longer available. It has been a light tan color and breaks up a bit finer and kinda tastes like root beer when tooted. This stuff has no instant gratification when snorted like the first one. It perks me up a little, feel a sense of well being, makes my nose itch, and maybe a little warmth after snorting this stuff. I can do much more of it (like 2-4 cocaine sized lines) and probably more, but I usually see no point in continuing other than negative side effects. I barely notice it all day. Then at about 8 hours in I start to get a little euphoria and a full on nod. This nod lasts about 4 hours and then back to baseline. Is this from ingesting so much of it via drip? Why are all the good feelings delayed by like 8 hours?

Any ideas?

 

[Znegative]

If you're snorting coke sized lines (which I would consider to be around an inch long) of "heroin" and not feeling stoned with such a low tolerance, than your smack is crap, no offense. Perhaps you are sniffing too hard and too much is dripping down your esophagus and into your stomach which could be the reason for delayed nod and euphoria (oral Diacetylmorphine is pretty pointless, it's just like taking morphine orally with a higher BA).

 

[ShaunG]

Yep, 1 inch or bigger even to be honest. This is what I figured, crap, but just found the delayed nod pretty strange. I am not sniffing too hard and clear my nostrils like I would for Opana. I think this dood sells to many IV users so its prob just cut with a bunch of crap and is bad stuff as you mentioned. My first experience was with good H apparently. That is how I imagined H would be...not like it has been recently. I just never imagined it would suck so bad snorted...even stuff that has been stomped on. I thought it was probably like oral morphine too with the drip. I an not familiar with the #s of H so I thought maybe I got 2 different ones...one of which has shitty nasal absorption or that who ever made it messed up somewhere and it is not absorbing good in the nasal cavity. It does make my yack if I overdo it (4-6 blow sized lines within 3-4 hours) although there still is no good instant euphoria and then 8 hours later the cns depression is really bad. For this reason I do it early in the day and tend not to overdo it cuz I know I still wont get the euphoria. Oh well...waste of money.

 

[SirRollsAlot]

Redosing opiates especially this one sucks and is almost pointless, doing that entire amount at once will have you high as hell but if ur like me and get scared to do it all at once well then you need to start gettin comfortable with ur shit before ur tolerance gets sky high from redosing and before u know it u gotta huge tolerance but haven't been getting that high

 

[OmarLittle]

It sounds like you are describing scramble. My opinion is that the dope is weak, as per your description

 

[ShaunG]

@Sir - I have done a bunch at once and it just makes me itch more...no nod feeling or euphoria like the first experience except 8 hours later i will nod harder and have really shallow breathing

@Omar - What is scramble? Just shitty ass dope? I think most people that buy it IV so its prob cut with junk that makes them feel higher or nod harder, but sucks via sniffing. That was my thought, but who knows. I have come to the conclusion that I will just save my tolerance for something good.

 

[OmarLittle]

^^^ Yes, pretty much. Around Baltimore/DC it's just low grade street dope. It has a VERY pungent smell, to the point where you can't open a cap or bag in the car without it being overwhelming. I pretty sure it's just regional slang for cheap stinky dope.

And yes you're right, It's always over cut. I'm guessing with antihistamines. And snorting it is almost useless imo.

 

[Znegative]

When I first started using heroin I insufflated it and a line the size of half a match would have me high as all hell.

Even when you're sniffing, when you have little to no tolerance to opiates, you should not have to do several coke sized lines to feel a slight euphoria and nod. Your dope must be cut to hell, and I would suggest not using it at all. Also, never start off a new batch with more than a bump, even if you get what looks like the same garbage.

 

[ShaunG]

Ya, it doesn't have a shitty or weird smell at all. It is likely just cut to shit because even those bigass lines do not induce a nod. The nod doesn't come till 8 hours later when the liver is probably responsible. It still kinda doesn't make sense though. Its almost like its just made wrong with shitty nasal absorption?

@Z - i always start with a fingernail because the first shit I ever did - two fingernails had me nodding nice with a huge full body rush of euphoria for the first 20 minutes or so....and even hours later i caught myself nodding a bit.

I have no clue what the deal is with this other crap. I guess its just cut to shit or made wrong. Hood dope for IV people. They seem to enjoy it. I think if I remember correctly the one dood said a .3 IVed had him nice as fuck but he shoots dope every day all day. Its the 8 hour later thing that is really strange. I can see how that would be very dangerous to someone who keeps banging blow sized lines all day trying to get high and then gets hit hard as hell 8 hours later maybe even when they are sleeping. I'll be staying away from it. I do it like once a month and its been the same for the past 3 months...its always "fire" lol. No more.