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Does this disprove Atheism?

xbandit07x

xbandit07x

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% chance society will ever exist unbiased and uncontrolled by Human Greed without God = 0.0000000000000 %

% chance the globalist utopia/communism type living can ever exist without corruption and terror and collapse = 0.000000 %

% chance humanity and the planet got to this point we are now from having God = 100%

Cosmic math is never false.


In before legion of sheeps think they're "edgy" or "skeptical" and say but but we were indoctrinated by our parents!

While simultaneously the only indoctrination that's happening is:

Reject everything to move toward a new world order full of man made "intellectuals" and the belief that humans are special enough to create our own bubbly world.
 
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Now now, did you just make those statistics up off the top of your head? It kinda looks like it mate.
 
xbandit07x said:
% chance humanity and the planet got to this point we are now from having God = 100%
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so, in summary, your disproof of atheism is "we can't have got this far without god".

you haven't proved or disproved anything.

alasdair
 
Has there ever been an atheist society that had proper government or minimal corruption? You do realize human nature is to immediately play God when God is thrown out and it begins to look like USSR, North Korea.

You guys also realize that even if there's plenty of intelligent atheists who understand concepts of being fair, why do you think they could ever cooperate or take over a society.

True Atheism would occur as a shift within the leaders and countries we already have, meaning this "elite" team of governing by "moral" logic will never reach office, it's just whoevers in charge will go full hedonist/demonic power hungry and realize they can do whatever they want since the population doesn't even think there's a higher power to judge anything.

I think as common people, atheists make great moral holders, debators, etc. but not as a legion of public leaders with interests that IS 0% chance to work.

I agree with nearly everything TheAmazingAtheist says
 
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in 1902, your proof that man would never fly in a machine heavier than air would have been "man has not yet flown in a machine heavier than air".

then the wright brothers would have come along in 1903 and proved you wrong.

again, you are making some statements but you are not proving anything.

alasdair
 
How can you know it would work, do you have a gut feeling that it can?

If it never worked before, isn't the burden of proof on you to describe how it works
 
my point is that the fact something's not yet happened is not proof that it never will.

so, again, your disproof of atheism is "we can't have got this far without god"? why not?

alasdair
 
Why are you arguing with this guy? Is it not clear from his very first post that your energies would be far more efficiently spent on someone with a snowball's chance in hell of seeing reason? Someone with the slightest understanding of the math, probabilities, science they are warping and twisting behind recognition?
 
By prove I didn't mean go look up sources and do a research paper but say even one reason on how that's even somewhat likely.

In 10 seconds I pulled these up:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ve-God-Its-wired-brain-says-psychologist.html

"A study into the way children's brains develop suggests that during the process of evolution those with religious tendencies began to benefit from their beliefs - possibly by working in groups to ensure the future of their community."


http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_devel.htm

This is about the prehistoric humans before even becoming homosapins tradition of burying dead and following God-directed "supernatural" instincts to prepare for afterlives and civilization couldn't have continued once settled if the "God" thing wasn't Setting living conditions and common sense into their minds.

I don't think people were "hallucinating" paranormal senses of God any differently than people are hallucinating every ghost story or thing remotely similar to anything posted in this subsection.

If you think everything is bullshit by all means read no Alien stories, astral projection shouldn't be taken seriously at all, anything paranormal is just a hoax. But how can someone believe in a hidden supernatural realm of shapes, entities, Satan, evil/light imagery in their Hallucigens or whatever but not even analyze it.
 
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JessFR said:
Why are you arguing with this guy? Is it not clear from his very first post that your energies would be far more efficiently spent on someone with a snowball's chance in hell of seeing reason? Someone with the slightest understanding of the math, probabilities, science they are warping and twisting behind recognition?
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Why are you such a tool who doesn't even know math, probabilities, science. Of course there's some things that can and can't currently be calculated and

Both Einstein and now Hawkins think we aren't even close to understanding and calculating even more than a tiny fraction of the universe.

Why don't you release your 4D and 5D math?
 
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Dude, why are you smashing people over the head with your beliefs? You are proselytising and putting foreward insubstantial claims. We call those sort of claims opinions. That's fine of course but stop claiming objectivity.

You haven't disproven atheism. How can you disprove a lack of belief in something? I am essentially atheist (not as simple as that). Please, prove to me that atheism is wrong. You are making extraordinary claims, so present the extraordinary evidence.

Using the Daily Mail as a source is a joke. I think you know that though.
 
xbandit07x said:
Has there ever been an atheist society that had proper government or minimal corruption? You do realize human nature is to immediately play God when God is thrown out and it begins to look like USSR, North Korea.

You guys also realize that even if there's plenty of intelligent atheists who understand concepts of being fair, why do you think they could ever cooperate or take over a society.

True Atheism would occur as a shift within the leaders and countries we already have, meaning this "elite" team of governing by "moral" logic will never reach office, it's just whoevers in charge will go full hedonist/demonic power hungry and realize they can do whatever they want since the population doesn't even think there's a higher power to judge anything.

I think as common people, atheists make great moral holders, debators, etc. but not as a legion of public leaders with interests that IS 0% chance to work.

I agree with nearly everything TheAmazingAtheist says
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That's very true that Atheist leaders of various countries that were a part of the U.S.S.R., North Korea, the PRC, and even leaders that flirted with Atheism like Pol Pot go for absolute power, ruling with an iron fist, kill an extremely large number of people in the countries they rule, and really do love being totalitarian dictators in Communist/Socialist countries despite how they are Atheist.

I have no idea who theamazingatheist is?
 
I am exactly in line with most of the YouTube atheists, particularly Theamazingatheist on every viewpoint.

Yeah organized religion is Not necessarily anything to do with God.

When we are young our innocence and euphoria is proof of a God I think though; because why would knowing absolutely nothing as a clean slate Be the purest acceptance and feeling, more pure than any meditation or drug, ( besides opiates!).

Jesus in particular focused on the way children acted and said they are closest to how humans ought to act to be closer to God. I hate kids and used to be a camp counselor, but you can see what the bible is saying remembering the type of egoless perception you had as a child, did we forget that? I'm sure the opiate users on this board Didn't since that's what the drug resembles to extreme.

Because we tend to see an "ego death" as nature/lsd/shrooms/serotonin but it's not quite.

When you were young and felt wonder for things you were apart of the God plane; when you love too now as well, like your family/kids/girl.

I can't stop replying because I don't think I'm wrong on this.

Everyone's just LOVES to talk about spiritual ideas but not put anything together from facts or collective observation.

For example, astral projection(which I haven't done) everyone reports the same set up of a silver chord etc.
why are we ignoring the fact that everyone who does it generates a consistent factor and then theorize wow this maybe means something more than pineal gland if all our astral projections are a format of being on a chord attached to body. If all that were accident/body glitches nobody's experiences would be CONSISTENT.

The universe is anything BUT subjective like "new age thinkers" who think everything can potentially be "whatever they want".
 
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I am exactly in line with most of the YouTube atheists, particularly Theamazingatheist on every viewpoint.
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I looked up TheAmazingAtheist and this page attempts to summarize some of his viewpoints. Assuming these are actually his views, most self-proclaimed atheists would want to distance themselves from them. Given as you just proved the existence of God with math, to what end are his viewpoints being used in this discussion?
 
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I looked up TheAmazingAtheist and this page attempts to summarize some of his viewpoints. Assuming these are actually his views, most self-proclaimed atheists would want to distance themselves from them. Given as you just proved the existence of God with math, to what end are his viewpoints being used in this discussion?
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Why did you use this obscure source. it's just a biased reviewer angry and putting words in TJ's(TheAmazingatheist) mouth of people that disagree with his channel. And what's wrong with being on the opposition in a debate to things you disagree with.

he's not relevant at all to this thread except for the fact that I was posting an example of someone in the "Atheist Community" of YouTube that reflects a good portion of Internet atheists and I'm on par with their stances on organized religion, government, and ideas for maximum citizens rights.

TheAmazingAtheist literally has been saying from his first video in every video that people should be able to do or say whatever they want as long as they do not harm or harass another person. How is that not the broadest libertarian perspective he's not a bigot he himself is bisexual, was one of the first people on YouTube criticising and being a voice for Gay marriage since 2006.

You cannot assume someone's saying "mean things" and get upset
 
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if you believe in god there's something wrong.
it's a fallacy built in to the faith.

or maybe it's just faulty logic built in to the way we think.
dunno.
 
snazzy_sn said:
if you believe in god there's something wrong.
it's a fallacy built in to the faith.

or maybe it's just faulty logic built in to the way we think.
dunno.
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Yeah but maybe it's a trap and that's why you suck more when you don't believe in him.

I'm not religious but it's clear majority of people who definitely declare there's no god just seem pale And whimpery and defensive.

Many of us became atheist because organized religion was corrupted and we never stop connecting God to annoying religious people or endless man made ritual churches.
 
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