Does Testosterone make you high?

honeywhite said:
I'm 20 and have low testosterone, possibly (but I don't think so) exacerbated by chronic low-dose opiate use. I was prescribed Sustanon-250 to replace it and inject one phial into the deltoid every fortnight. Each time I inject, I feel a pronounced sense of euphoria, similar to, but qualitatively different (in the head, rather than in the chest) from, morphine or buprenorphine. I also feel calmness rather than the usual anxiety. This state lasts for about sixteen days.

I don't understand why, though. Does anyone else feel a testosterone (or other steroid) high? Is it even a psychoactive drug?
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It's because your body runs on 2 types of fuels: adrenaline and testosterone.
Your body usually uses testosterone to give you energy, but when running low it is replaced by adrenaline. Adrenaline of course is much more potent in terms of energy, but it cannot be used by the body in large doses, and when it goes down it leaves you with a more irritated/nervous/anxious behaviour. So, when your body has a big stash of testosterone, you have more energies and they're better distributed i would say. And if you have more t. you dont have to use your adrenaline stash so you feel more relaxed.
High testosterone levels don't necessarily relate to a more violent/impulsive behaviuor.
 
My testosterone levels dropped to the level of a teenage girl when I was 20 because I was on methadone and oxys for pain. I didn't get it treated until I was 28 and it was the pill form of testosterone and it didn't work. I switched to a patch and didn't like wearing 2 bulky patches at a time and to having to rotate application sites.

I now use Androgel (1% testosterone) and get a box of 30 little packets per month. It comes in a pump bottle as well and also comes in stronger strength but my insurance covers the 1% packets (sachets). Every day after I shower I rip a sachet open and rub it into my shoulder muscles a bit abs put the remainder on my lower stomach, love handle area.

My testosterone is almost too high but my doctor says he doesn't mind and if I feel better on it then it's okay as long as my red blood cells & liver show remain at acceptable levels. It took about 6 months to build a stable level of testosterone.

I don't feel any euphoria but my confidence is higher and I have a higher zest for life and do more physically demanding things that I used to avoid.

The greatest improvements are my sex life. I had low levels of T when I met my current gf. I used to not hurt my gf when we had sex and she had no issue with giving me oral. Now that my T is on the higher end I actually have to be careful entering my gf and a few times shes complained about trouble walking due to pain after sex. She never used to choke on my dick and when we met she could get it down her throat easily. It was embarrassing before. Now I feel I have something she can fear lol.. ..

The amount of blood flow is a huge improvement...this is no joke. .it actually gets approx 35% larger than I could do when my test was very low.

If I don't use the gel for 2 or 3 days I start to feel my sexual improvements slipping away. After 7 days I'm back to my wimpy soft dick and a total inability to enjoy sex or perform using my hand to get 98%of the way then finish in my gf.

Chronic opioid use is ALMOST guaranteed to cause low testosterone in men and causes some women such bad hormonal effects that they stop having periods. Opioid/opiate drugs have a profound effect on the brains hormonal systems.

Get your levels checked if you are on opiates/opioid long term and suspect it may be low. Trouble maintaining erections and having weak, soft erections and less desire for sex as well as irritability are a huge sign you MAY be suffering from low T. You could have perfectly normal T levels and suffer from sexually side effects irritability, lack of motivation etc from opiate/opioid use on its own.

Obviously too much testosterone is not beneficial and can cause severe health problems. Consult with a physician before starting any type of medical treatment. It's not something you should diagnose yourself with and treat on your own. .

Going from the T of a teenage girl to the higher end of normal for a guy my age is like black and white at least when it comes to sexual improvements.

I will admit that my testicles have shrunk a lot and my fertility may have been affected. I got bad medical advice at first and didn't know fertility could be affected. Please make sure you get good advice if you want to possibly have kids because it's not easy to reverse fertility issues while on T and opiates also have there own effects on the reproductive system.

That's just my take on how testosterone in those who don't have it can improve life.
 
I'm wondering about what plasticsy (sp?) I have abused opiates and benzos for a while and I never really thought about having low t. What some people have described is exactly how I feel but that could be from multiple factors. I don't have medical insurance so I can't see a doctor about it until I get a good job or I get medicaid back.

I have a chance to run a cycle of dbol next month and I'm thinking of maybe just trying it for a week and get a feel of the side effects. Do you see anything wrong with just taking it for a few days to see the effects? I'm thinking no because I'm only 18 and I don't want to have a adverse reaction and have to go to the hospital. It really blows not having insurance
 
Dogma123 said:
I'm wondering about what plasticsy (sp?) I have abused opiates and benzos for a while and I never really thought about having low t. What some people have described is exactly how I feel but that could be from multiple factors. I don't have medical insurance so I can't see a doctor about it until I get a good job or I get medicaid back.

I have a chance to run a cycle of dbol next month and I'm thinking of maybe just trying it for a week and get a feel of the side effects. Do you see anything wrong with just taking it for a few days to see the effects? I'm thinking no because I'm only 18 and I don't want to have a adverse reaction and have to go to the hospital. It really blows not having insurance
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No it's not a good idea. If you're worried you have low natural testosterone from opiate abuse, doing a cycle of dbol isn't going to help and it's not a substance you should take for prolonged periods (that would be extremely unhealthy).

You may require TRT (replacement therapy) if you can't recover naturally after a long period off opiates. However you would need blood tests to determine this. Are you still abusing opiates?
 
Not that frequently maybe a 3 day run twice a month now but I wouldn't be able to until next month when I'm totally clean. Really the only reason I wanna do it is because of how fast the gains are but I could lose them and be depressed I've read but is probaly better to wait.
 
You wouldnt even be feeling the prop in the sust that quickly lol. Sounds like it's in your head.. Testosterone does not produce a high but it can relieve anxiety and make you feel like a normal person. Which depending on how low you were and how bad your situation was could possibly make you feel pretty damn good.


Or maybe you just like sticking yourself with a needle
 
nolys said:
There's somewhere online you can get your bloods done reasonably cheap can't remember the name but, I get everything free on the NHS...
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PrivateMDLabs, order the female hormone panel then go to a labcorp. I believe it's around $50
 
"It can relieve anxiety" ... true, but it can also cause it, as well as high blood pressure and more serious problems.

I haven't read the whole thread, so I might be parroting an experience already given, but I'll give mine.

1) No, the feeling from Androgel or even Testo Cypiate injections isn't a "high". It is, at least for a bit, more like a milder 5-hour energy at best.

2) If you're low-T ... get the treatment supervised. Yeah, lots of people do it with no problems at all but it -can- have life threatening implications. I'll explain my experience there:

About 9 months ago I went in for T testing. I had all the signs and as a chronic pain opioid user for an extended period, I knew it was likely. Hell, given that one of my testes was injured prior to puberty (always fun to have a bald spot on 1 shoulder but not the other), I knew I probably had low-ish T before I ever went on the opioids.

Sure enough, I go in, I'm tested, and I'm at a whopping 95. 95 is the testosterone of an approximately 95 year old man. It should have been at least 250 just to be normal for my early 40s. Who knows how long it had been that low? No clue. Probably was hovering low before the opioids and then between pain/stress/depression/pills for a few years it crashed.

So the most effective route was sticking myself in the butt with cypionate. Hey, I take pain killers so I can shove a large bore needle in my butt, right? Well yeah, I could (especially since I have some nerve damage lowering sensitivity there). And I did for the first 6 weeks before my followup blood test.

That blood test? My hemoglobin levels spiked to the danger zone. I was given a prescription to go donate blood to get it down ASAP. Turns out that I just couldn't handle the spikeyness of it (and I was actually only using it once every 10 days, rather than 7, on average ... had I been keeping up with it at the level initially prescribed my urologist worried I might well have had a cardio event before I even got in to the follow-up).

So yeah, no more cypionate for me. I've been on Androgel since. RIDICULOUSLY expensive. I'm currently getting off of my opioids and I'm hoping my T levels rise enough that I can stay off the Androgel. If not, so long as I can stabilize, the doc is thinking of doing pellets which release slowly but require replacement a couple of times per year.

And also be aware that if someone who is already extremely low on T starts supplementing it, there is a decent chance your body will forget to produce enough even after going off of it. So you (and I) can end up needing to supplement it for life. Which ... is better than it being so low that you never want to do a thing and hurt even worse ... but still sucks.
 
Very interesting thread. Has anybody found using Testosterone helps to lower benzos, me for example, been prescribed Valium and Klonopin for over 10 years and am 99% sure benzos have made my anxiety worse so would like to come off thhe benzos....But!! Coming off them is not easy at all, in fact its horrid, even the smallest of cuts from my Klon' and I feel my anxiety getting worse and worse. I have a good knowledge on AAS, been using on and off since 1991 but mostly Dianabol. My natty levels are 228 so on the low side. Part of me wants to try Test to see if it helps my anxiety and the other part of me is scared it will make me worse. I have 2x10ml bottles of Test C 200mg here, plus Arimidex but do I take the plunge and try it as anxious enough as it is with long term benzo useage.
 
For me personally, test has absolutely helped with both anxiety and depression.

It's a slippery slope with PEDs and anxiety, though.

Test works great for me but some other gear does the exact opposite. I'd absolutely avoid tren and possibly EQ as well although the latter never bothered me.
 
I find all this stuff about Testosterone so interesting as it is something in the UK that is just shrugged off by Dr's saying how dangerous it it.

I am having a terrible time coming off Klonopin, part of me is wondering if Test may help my withdrawal off Klon' or make the withdrawal even worse.....Tricky one!
 
What OP is trying to say makes perfect sense, he just explained it very poorly. I am in the same boat, TRT after years of heroin and methadone.

Since opiates depress test you feel lazy, depressed, shitty and such. Not to mention opiates themselves are CNS depressants and do that same stuff.

So you go from this depressed state to being normal and it feels great, finally having balanced hormones. It can feel energetic or slightly euphoric finally being confident and functional, strong and clear headed.

I think that was OP was tryong to say, more than actually he gets high.

However the thing where he feels it immediately is probably 95% placebo.
 
Sounds like it's in your head. If you said that you feel great the next day then I could understand that since you say you were so testosterone deficient before getting on test. Going from low test to high test levels can make you feel great, and the effects are far more pronounced.
 
Call me crazy but he injected testosterone and was always low in it so maybe this euphoria is cause by the right level of testosterone in your body causeing you to feel much better then when your levels were to low. Just as if your sick and take something for nasuea then you get a sense of euphoria even though your not high. You just feel great from the releif. Partly placebo and partly physical
 
-Guido- said:
Sounds to me like you are addicted to the needle.

Testosterone produces no high and isn't a psychoactive drug.
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Gotta agree with my man Guido....fuckin eh, has it been 14 years on this board?

But uhh yeah, to disagree with my man...I was on 60mg of adderall and like however much bupe I felt like sniffing and like I'd wake up, sniff 4mg of bupe. make a cup of coffee, down my adderall, smoke a cig, fire up the internet and grease myself in androgel...and you know what? I found this routine to induce euphoria.

Would anyone like to explain how routine leads to euphoria? NO, I NEED MORE ANDROGEL

ANDROGEL
ANDROGEL
ANDROGEL

:feel the rage:
 
Everyone is so certain of themselves in this thread...lol



Animal Mother said:
Dude, I did my last shot and bled like crazy. Even lost a little bit of oil. Not sure what I did wrong lol


As far as instant aggression steroids go, I'm going to try TNE on my next blast. I don't know much about halotestin or cheque drops. Let me get the basics out of the way before I go putting all of that crazy stuff in me.
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Sounds like you hit a vein. Happened to me several times..
opivy said:
I have to comment on androgens and their psychoactive properties. Androgens (DHT analogs more so than test based ones) are very much psychoactive. Androgens activate reward pathways in the nucleus accumbens and have been shown to modulate GABA(a) receptors in similar fashion to classic depressants (benzos, barbs, etc.) and therefore increase Cl- influx into the neuron. Testosterone's 3a-diol metabolite has been shown to modulate the GABA(a) receptor and I believe this is the basis for neuroactive steroids used for sedation (Ganaxolone). I have linked a couple research papers here but if you run a search on pubmed.com for testosterone, DHT, nandrolone (often used steroid in research) and addiction, GABA, reward pathway you will find research done on androgens and their psychoactive properties.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11500254
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12376159
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11744084
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Interesting, thanks for posting this up!
 
You're confusing energy and a sense of wellbeing to the high of a drug.

Obviously if you have low testosterone and suddenly you have normal/high testosterone you're going to feel amazing.
 
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