Dosing Does one bowl of good thc cannabis increase dopamine levels to more than an orgasm?

[Innerpeace]

This came out recently . First off, I could be wrong, but at least a little of this seems like propaganda, it is from Washtenaw County health department in Michigan

That said, the speaker seems to know addiction, personally, and though brain scans and some science. Im not saying shes correct on everything. What interests me the most is cannabis addiction, use to take five years , she threw this out, and now it takes much, less time due to the higher percent of thc

Ive cut back from every day , a bowl or so, to once a week, most ive gone was like ten days, but smoking a good thc blend like lemon cherry gelato, last night, totally relaxed me, soothed my stomach, and felt so much better. I tend to walk outside after I smoke a lot of the time bc exercise and cannabis go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly

I can just chillax and smoke it but most of the time I dont see a point when walking out in nature , along with the cannabis is so nice

Good Sex, orgasm, , one line of good cocaine, used to have lower amount of dopamine increase than cannabis use . Now with the higher thc, dopamine levels goes above a line of cocaine, and sex. There are another chemicals involved if you watch that, but I found this particularly interesting

I dont know if I beleive it but Im open to it because cannabis thc content is so much higher, I didnt want to put cocaine in the title but this is saying a good thc bowl can exceed dopamine levels than a line of cocaine

Brain scans are shown. How prefrontal cortex after addicted wont get the same level of dopamine from regular life, than from good thc cannabis

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Yeah, about 0.00000000000186 %, for the meridian of normality.
Just kiddin, but combine the two and the outcome greater then the sum .

So you are onto something, += 3 [ makes sense]

 

[emkee_reinvented]

This came out recently . First off, I could be wrong, but at least a little of this seems like propaganda, it is from Washtenaw County health department in Michigan

That said, the speaker seems to know addiction, personally, and though brain scans and some science. Im not saying shes correct on everything. What interests me the most is cannabis addiction, use to take five years , she threw this out, and now it takes much, less time due to the higher percent of thc

Ive cut back from every day , a bowl or so, to once a week, most ive gone was like ten days, but smoking a good thc blend like lemon cherry gelato, last night, totally relaxed me, soothed my stomach, and felt so much better. I tend to walk outside after I smoke a lot of the time bc exercise and cannabis go hand in hand like peanut butter and jelly

I can just chillax and smoke it but most of the time I dont see a point when walking out in nature , along with the cannabis is so nice

Good Sex, orgasm, , one line of good cocaine, used to have lower amount of dopamine increase than cannabis use . Now with the higher thc, dopamine levels goes above a line of cocaine, and sex. There are another chemicals involved if you watch that, but I found this particularly interesting

I dont know if I beleive it but Im open to it because cannabis thc content is so much higher, I didnt want to put cocaine in the title but this is saying a good thc bowl can exceed dopamine levels than a line of cocaine

Brain scans are shown. How prefrontal cortex after addicted wont get the same level of dopamine from regular life, than from good thc cannabis

Did they also investigate the [low] level of Dopamine that can currently,
be gotten from everyday live. I create kick s, but in every day live there are none.
Sorry i don t believe in Paragliding or Bungee jumping as useful way of live.

A Graffiti, a abandoned place or taking a off trail path but,
For the average human it must be way lower then in recent past.

Cannabis, exercise and proper food are my stack these day s.
I even take about 25 mg dextro-Amphetamine [ADHD].

But none compare for one to Cocaine. Definitely not THC ime.

Don t discard the hormone disturbing and toxic environment we live in.

 

[Egzoset]

This came out recently...

There's always "something coming out recently", it's an uninterrupted flow of "news" with no equivalent in hard drugs - which is what alcohol happens to be, besides opioïds that are much more marginal in comparison...

...the speaker seems to know addiction...

Try a search putting his name juxtaposed to that of other $pe¢iali$ts like Kevin Sabet, Nora Volkow who came to Montréal/Canada to help destroy our chances of getting a true socio-progressive legalization reform. E.G. the net result today is a disaster hitting youth harder than ever, especially in my $a¢rifi¢ed province.

What interests me the most is cannabis addiction...

The word « addiction » applied to cannabis is an abuse of language as there are more suitable expressions to designate this specific habit disorder. The concept of addiction implies co-morbidity factors, which means an individual can't avoid hurting himself real bad, like an alcoholic exactly, and yet somehow addictionists-abstentionists keep foccussing on the other side of the fence only...

When was it the last time you heard about being "enslaved" in alcohol hell? Just think of Star Trek's engineer getting drunk, it's presented as fun despite his critical responsabilites! Just a couple days ago i was zapping through TV channels and was reminded of one episode where an entire planet got addicted to some super-potent opioïd-like narcotic and the final solution was to let them endure cold turkey. M'well, the link between alcohol and Gene Roddenberry is no secret and he had diabetes on top of extra-high blood pressure, which are true co-morbidity factors indeed! Go figure... Most unfortunately such medical confusion on addiction exists since at least the paper of doctor John Warnock: 'Insanity from hasheesh', 1903 - another crunchy story rooted deep into the victorian age... Now tell me who's insane!



In addition, i'd point out the lack of medical skill in the industry of cannabis "addiction treatment" is no big issue as long as the young victim ain't pushed to suicide. In other words it's a juicy business where the client is victimized twice and nobody cares until a judge gets 20 years imprisonment for his lucrative scam, etc. But the thing is, traditional mass-media thrives on exploiting all words resonating with the addiction theme when it comes to cannabis and that ain't really helping anyone at all but themselves. As a matter of fact liability is very thin in the whole cannabis "addiction" echo-chamber system, hence there's no incentives to change and get real.

By the way, Halloween is coming and you'll be served if you have appetite for horror stories of hollywoodian magnitude!

...one line of good cocaine, used to have lower amount of dopamine increase than cannabis use. Now with the higher thc, dopamine levels goes above a line of cocaine, and sex.

M'well, it seems the episode 'Star Trek The Next Generation: Symbiosis' would be an excellent starting point for this conversation. I strongly recommend paying special attention to the Consumption Method & Ritual...

Brain scans are shown.

IMO the proper scientific attitude is to publish a study's protocol and invite peer duplication before the results can be examined professionally throughout the world, free of self-interest conflicts if that's even possible.

So a fair dose of criticism seems in order if for example some fertility clinic announces they found a "study" proving that THC raises the likelihood of engendering defective babies with the wrong number of chromosomes... Or a 60 years-old one performed on lab mice, mentioned on CNN by an esthetical surgeon who went to America to get rich:

'Does smoking pot cause man boobs?', Anthony Youn, 2013-Dec-5

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Happy halloween!

 

[GooberDoober]

Maybe if you have shitty sex... I don't actually know though. I have no access to an mri, or anything like that. This all seems very sus to me though. I always found orgasm to be more comparable to a rush from really good pure coke or some stimmy dope like oxy or intranasal 7-oh, even then I think a good orgasm can be better in terms of dopamine rush, and if you mix in drugs on top of it (like cannabis, nitrites, gbl, stims etc.) then your really going places.

 

[foodcrisis]

i never thought to compare smoking weed with an orgasm or sex at all.

an orgasm is really quick and really intense. getting high lasts a couple hours, even the initial rush from weed lasts a lot longer than an orgasm and isn't as strong of a feeling for me...

i would think cocaine would be a totally different experience too, and dopamine isn't the only thing with all the drugs getting you high, so you might not actually know your dopamine levels. like i would think cannabis would be from thc receptors being triggered along with the dopamine so it's like a combo thing going on in the brain, but that you tube video is saying that they are noticing the dopamine is actually being triggered more than coke with cannabis use... hmm... i never really felt less effects from weed on anti-psychotics which lower dopamine from what i understand, so this is kind of weird to me.

 

[GooberDoober]

i never thought to compare smoking weed with an orgasm or sex at all.

an orgasm is really quick and really intense. getting high lasts a couple hours, even the initial rush from weed lasts a lot longer than an orgasm and isn't as strong of a feeling for me...

i would think cocaine would be a totally different experience too, and dopamine isn't the only thing with all the drugs getting you high, so you might not actually know your dopamine levels. like i would think cannabis would be from thc receptors being triggered along with the dopamine so it's like a combo thing going on in the brain, but that you tube video is saying that they are noticing the dopamine is actually being triggered more than coke with cannabis use... hmm... i never really felt less effects from weed on anti-psychotics which lower dopamine from what i understand, so this is kind of weird to me.

Agreed, also I know this is not a post about cocaine, but I wanted to point out quickly, that the idea of focusing exclusively on dopamine when discussing drugs, similar to occasionally focusing entirely on endorphin release, is a misleading and oversimplified understanding of drug pharmacology that is constantly getting spread around by major media as well as individuals. It sounds nice and clean and is easy to understand, but in reality most drugs are quite a bit more complex in their interactions with the brain. For example, cocaines interactions with dopamine are connected to its interactions with monoamine through vmat2. Some of the rush and effects of cocaine are, at least from my limited understanding connected to these monoamine effects changing how the brain plays with dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine. Similarly this orgasm comparison has always been used to explain drugs, but has and will always be a very silly oversimplification. I remember getting annoyed the first time I saw trainspotting and they described heroin as "the best orgasm you've ever had times 1,000,000" hella goofy, opioids are borderline A-sexual if anything. Its just a feel good sensation that most people can relate to, so they use it for descriptions, unfortunately it is totally inaccurate.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

It is an apples to oranges analogy that discounts the real satisfaction of human connection (Oxytocin and other reactions) and limits the variable to dopamine.

It is a trash study not to be trusted. (Did I get anything wrong)

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

It is an apples to oranges analogy that discounts the real satisfaction of human connection (Oxytocin and other reactions) and limits the variable to dopamine.

It is a trash study not to be trusted. (Did I get anything wrong)

I'd agree here.
Measuring "dopamine levels" sounds a little pseudo-scientific to me.
The pharmaceutical & psychology industry pushes the idea that people with depression have "low serotonin", so they can push dependence-forming SSRIs on people.
Except there's never been any study showing depressed people having low serotonin & then seeing them go from depressed to "normal" by having higher serotonin levels.
Yet they're out here "measuring" dopamine levels between sex & cannabis? Pfft.

I'm no expert, but I would imagine you'd have to inject people with some kind of dye, that only attaches to "dopamine" and then take scans of the brain & body & seeing the dopamine light up before & after, in order to "measure" it. Can this even be done with current science? I have no idea, but some one can correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe there's other ways to measure dopamine by scanning the brain & seeing certain areas lit up or more active, but the variance between everything would be tricky cause I might have an orgasm today that doesn't feel as good as the one I have tomorrow. Or I might smoke a bowl & not feel as "good" as I did yesterday when I smoked a bowl. So how can anyone say cannabis does this & will always do this?

Eating food releases serotonin, so therefore depressed people should just become obese (sarcasm).

Endogenous & exogenous experiences differ as well. Runners get a "runners high" from endorphins, but I wouldn't say they're "nodding out" or anything.

I think this kind of science is just out there to stigmatize drug use in general, like it's some moral & physical flaw that must be studied, scrutinized & eventually eradicated.
But it's my body, my life & I should be able to choose what I want to do with it, even if that means smoking cannabis every day.

 

[red22]

We walked to the gym where my friend began to run the treadmill and I sat behind him on one of the machines, too stoned to even walk. It was here where I experienced so much pleasure that it scared the hell out of me because it seemed to be in my control. […] I closed my eyes and felt myself carried away in an ocean of noise. If I concentrated hard, I could regain control, but if I just let myself relax, I would again be carried away. The more I let myself get carried away in my mind, the more pleasure I would sense. […] I felt that I could gradually increase my sensory pleasure. As my friend got off the treadmill he asked me what the hell I was doing because it looked like I was “having an orgasm.” https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=61636

[Cannabis] seems to take us deep into the body, into the autonomic nervous system (ANS), and into an almost physical and visceral level of emotionality. Cannabis tends to facilitate a somatic, ANS-level exploration, processing and releasing of traumatic events and memories that are stored in the deep biochemical coding systems of the body, and that are far out of the reach of verbal psychotherapy modalities that focus on understanding, insight, narrative, or coping techniques. https://www.drannafekete.com/cannabis-therapy

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

The whole thing was clearly done either in bad faith or by total fools -- I lean towards the former.

 

[Innerpeace]

I agree, it’s more propaganda than anything. I didn’t see that it s a county video from the health department

Not sure which state but that state may be anti cannabis or funded to discourage cannabis use, which dates back the Nixon, who put cannabis in the witch-hunt

Richard M thought hippies and minorities, at the time, were enemies of the govt, or he had an agenda of locking up these people in prisons possibly. His nickname was trickydick. He was very inconsiderate and misinformed about cannabis

Even the guy he put in charge of the anti weed movement made the word marijuana popular , in us, and around the world. Marijuana was a Mexican word he picked up meaning tobacco smoke. Most people that lived in the UK knew this was incorrect language back then. This is why I refuse to call it marijuana bc it’s incorrect, along with a negative connotation, both

 

[Egzoset]

Here comes the legacy of Anthony Youn again!