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Harm Reduction Does mixing downers and uppers ACTUALLY stress your heart?

I'm no scientist or doctor..so I'm.. just a thought. I've always thought that they wouldn't cancel each other out.your perception might be changed- were you on an upper, then took a downer, the chemicals are both still present and working : accompanying especially in incidental way. Your body would still have the increased heart rate, lung performance, your on heightened alert- yes, the downer would slow your body, mind down..it would make sense that your body- heart- would be stressed more than if it were just on upper/downer as two chemicals are telling it to react to two opposite actions. How you may feel is yes, mellowed out a bit (taking downer while upper is still acting) but the stress on your body(heart) may not be completely "felt" or apparent, but nonetheless, still causing "stress" on your vital organs. No? Yes?
 
I just think of the myth that cocaine will bring someone out of a heroin overdose cause that's exactly what it is a mytg
 
Well I've done my fair share of IV stims mixed with downers and I'd say if def. stresses your heart. I'd liken it to a rubber band one drug pulls it one way (down) and the other pulls it the other way (up) instead of cancelling each other out they stretch out the elastic band (the elastic band being your heart). Dunno if this is correct but makes sense to me.
 
Yea I've done Speedball's for 10 years and you can definitely feel a strain on your heart it's not good for it that's for sure mabye the term isn't confusing the heart but the two drugs mixed is not good on your heart on bit.
 
My dad actually did a lot of the two drugs together coke and heroin and he stopped using for a while but he ended up dying from a heart attack at age 50 it would be interesting to see how the mix of drugs contributed to his heart attack and how much longer he would've lived had he refrained from drug use

I should probably get my heart checked out to see imhow much damage I may have done.
 
I'm lucky that I never found the combo that enjoyable and altho I have done it many times, I quit long ago. And now I can't even stomach coke, even thinking about it gives me panic attacks and anxiety after shooting it for so long and being addicted to snorting it before that (I did take a 4 year break in-between snorting to IV). Best way to get rid of a coke problem take up heavy IV use of it for a while. Within a while you'll be saying oh lord no more!
 
i vividly remember the one time when i took some ghb while high on speed. it was a lot of fun (much more than ghb alone. i'm not a fan of these kinds of depressants), but when the amp wore off the ghb left in my system swiftly knocked me out for a few hours. i only awoke once for some projective vomiting.
please be careful when combining uppers and downers (especially downers that don't have the wide safely margin of benzos), the downers can impair your judgement and there definitely is a risk of doing too much, even when you're an experienced user.
 
yea i don't know im not a doctor but mixing uppers and downers just cant be better for you than stims alone or vice versa its harder on the whole body i mean your wired beyond belief with your heart beating out of your chest while your lungs are going into respitory depression and your struggling to breath does that sound good???
i don't belive the statement that mixing heroin with cocaine is better on your heart than stims alone that's quite crazy to say and some in experienced kid is going to read that statement and try doing some heroin to calm their heart down during a stim overdose.
 
Fuck yes. Have you never done a speed ball?
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(you get it the idea)
im 24 with high blood pressure. its from that shit.
 
this is the comment that really sounds crazy to me


flyhighk said:
The combination would be less damaging to your heart than a stimulant alone, imo.
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^^^^yes thank you someone whos actually done it.^^^^



HEY EVERYONE NEWSFLASH SPEEDBALLS ARE BETTER FOR YOUR CHOLESTEROL THAN LIPITOR SO GET =DYOURSELF SOME HEROIN MIX IT WITH SOME WHITE STUFF AND START GETTING WITH THE TIMES IF YOU WANT TO LIVE TO 90=D
 
Looks like I'm gonna have to makes sone changes...get Mr. Speedy Delivery on that one.
Damn, I wish I'd known this beFORE my Dr. appointment yesterday...I could have explained I had a regimen in place for high cholesterol! =D
 
Yea I've done Speedball's for 10 years and you can definitely feel a strain on your heart it's not good for it that's for sure mabye the term isn't confusing the heart but the two drugs mixed is not good on your heart on bit.
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Have you considered that it might just be the fact that cocaine is really fucking bad for your heart? I mean that shit is basically custom designed to induce heart attacks. Heroin doesn't slow the heart down nearly enough to cancel out the extent to which cocaine speeds it up. At least not at what would be considered a normal recreational dose.

If you're worried about the health of your heart, just don't do fucking cocaine. Don't do it by itself, don't do it with heroin, especially don't do it with alcohol.
 
I know cocaine is bad but I'm saying mixing heroin with the coke will not make it any easier on the body it'll add to the situation
 
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