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Heroin Does methadone boost your H tolerance?

nycblueskie

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Does methadone boost your H tolerance?

I been on done for 3 days today but I tried using the first day and didn't feel anything after using 30 mins after done. Yesterday I used 1 bag after done 45m after and I felt it. Then I used maybe 4h later an again 6h later. At 4h I felt it, used 4bags, but only felt it a little. At 6h I used 5bags and felt it FULL , body tingling and all.

I never feel the tingling unless I bang 10 to 15 bags (ye I have extremely high tolerance ) so how the hell did I feel that high off 5 bags is it because the timing and combo of done with the H or is it cuz the done was wearing off and my H tolerance dropped ?
 
oh baby yes it does. im tellin you this right now take it from me, you want to stay gettin high on dope then dont waste your money. if you plan to stay on done youre gonna be fucked for getting high, basically. its gonna cost you a shitload and a lot of dope and you aint even gonna get the high youre looking for. its pointless. unless you keep your dose belown a certain threshold and then you skip a dose, dont take anymore and wait until you start to feel withdrawals to use dope, thats the only way youre gonna get anything out of it and even in that case IMO the high just aint the same ias it is without the done in your sysem. you aint gonna experience that same high that you did pre methadone, you gotta have the shit all 100% out your system to feel that again. the done really dims and muffles the high, even if you follow my suggestions. as far as your question...dude methadone has a extremely long half life, your tolerance wouldnt fucking drop 6 hours after you took it..your blood plasma concentration levels dip and rise over the course of the day but not to the level where youd be totally blocked at t-0 and 6 hours later be good as new with fresh set of receptors with no done on them. try more like 36 hours--and thats only for a single dose, if youre continually dosing you aint gonna just have wild tolerance droppage like that.

Also are you aware methadone at doses of right around 45-60mg have a blocking effect so all your receptors are blocked by the methadone?

You prob just felt higher because you banged more and more and more dope til it had a cumulative effect. That tends to be how it is with methadone..you cant really 'break thru' but after a certain amount you just get really fucked up from the overload of dope and done.
 
Hey mates:)
Well, i haven't understand the way methadone works, i mean when it's potentiating an other agonist and when it's blockin it..i guess that in the beginning it potentiates, cause in the past i had used it for 5 days, to keep the W/Ds from heroin, and of course it worked good (i didn't take heroin these days, and i was feeling normal,good..).
After some years, i had started fent for chronic pain, as prescribed, and one day i took some methadone together, a friend gave me, (liquid, not much, about 10-25mg, don't exactly remember..). But i def remember that it potentiated-or synergised veeeery nice with the fent(patch)...

From then, i didn't take it again..I wonder, is there a point around 45-60mg,(as very well Khadijah mentioned..), that above this, it blocks the receptors, which is mean that it makes the other agonists useless, if, i'm right? But in smaller doses, it potentiates, or synergises with the other opiod agonists???
I can tell for fentanyl, (a 100mcgr/hr patch every 48hrs),that it blocks the receptors, but of course it's also, (or it's only this, and there's no blocking effect, i don't really know...), the fuckin high tolerance developed after 10 years of use/sometimes abuse of fent..i mean that fent has made heroin useless for me (snorted), the double of the amount that used to make me high before i started fenta, does nothing now..and i think that even the triple would do..:\but anyway...
I think that methadone isn't for long time use...I can imagine how horrible the W/Ds could be...8(

So nycbluesky my friend, if you're on the beginning of methadone use, please be careful, search and read reports from experienced and knowledgeable users, knowledge is your friend(and power..),isn't it bro?%)
Hail to all Bl'ers



MartinFn
 
Thanks for the replys I'm an idiot though I should've mentioned my mdone dose is 30mg.

I feel so sick it it feels like a letigitimate flu sick and not WD sick (I've been using for 5+ years so I know how dope sick feels like) I'm wondering if this is because my last dose of mdone was Saturday , I skipped my Sunday dose and I just got soo sick outta nowhere last night . I'm about to bang and take mdone from yesterday (30) + (30) from clinic :) hopefully I b high all day :)
 
Yes it does.

Methadone is a full agonist opiod, and will raise tolerance just as any other opioid/opiate will.
This sums it up perfectly. It should go without saying that taking opioids of any kind, just like most other drugs, it's all just a matter of becoming dependent, and everyone I know reacts differently to each opioid.

I don't know any of my friends who report having the same experiences/sensation even when we've all taken the same dose and drug. It is however, the general, albeit loose, consensus around here is that most report hydrocodone being noddy and more sedating and some report that it is extremely euphoric, but this is mostly reported by users who do not have much of a tolerance for pain killers.

Between hydrocodone and oxycodone potency wise, lies morphine. Via the oral ROA, it's for the most part widely underestimated. Everyone thinks that bioavailability is the most important thing, hence why so many people rush to shoot it (and shoot it for it's famous rush) unfortunately, most of the morphine that people are injecting illegally comes from pharmaceutical tablets, unfortunately further, most people are using the extended release formulation as opposed to the good pharmaceutical grade IV morphine for injection, or at least the MS IR instant release tablets that can be micron filtered or better yet, prepared for rectal administration negating the use of needles.

Oxycodone is well-known for it's ability to induce a lot of euphoria, and most regular oxyC users report dose-dependent stimulation, which from personal experience I can attest to, it's an odd phenomenon, as most pain killers are generally thought and accepted as CNS depresants (Oxycodone is a highly potent CNS depressant, let there be NO confusion whatsoever that oxycodone is a CNS depressant and in combination with other CNS depressants it CAN and WILL not even think twice [as it is incapable of sentient thoughts] or hesitate to end your life, slowly, in stop your breathing, stop your heart, leaving a wake of pain and suffering for everyone in the life you took for granted.

Methadone is no different, in fact, methadone is at least 2-4x stronger than Oxycodone, I've seen adults drop and turn blue and stop breathing after ingesting 20mg of methadone (2 x 10mg [M]-Eslon Tablets) and no other CNS depressants were involved to my knowledge. If she had gone just a few more minutes without immediate medical attention, she would have died for sure. Do not underestimate the power of methadone.

Methadone has some quirks.... 1) How effective it is is hugely dependent on unique body chemistry, and especially for people who don't take methadone often (this is called Acute Dosing), 2) the amount of methadone in your bloodstream is not at all consistent, taken orally there are still rather significant peaks and valleys, ups and downs in plasma levels... this usually stabilizes after you've been taking it for a while consistently (Chronic Dosing). 3) Methadone, or MMT, usually focuses on bringing you up to a blocking dose (70-90mg) so that you can't enjoy your drug of choice, usually heroin, anymore. They basically raise your tolerance so high to opiates that you don't experience any euphoria, and thus in doing so, it's supposed to make it pointless, not to mention extremely expensive and dangerous, to try and break through your blocking dose.

I want to take a second to focus on the danger aspect, since this is an HR community. I'll keep it short and simple. 1) If you mix it with CNS depressants like alprazolam (Xanax) and/or alcohol, or if you try to break through your methadone by doing a huge shot of dope, you are likely to overdose and die. Methadone is one of the most unforgiving, ruthless, powerful medications I've EVER come across. I've lost too many friends to this fucking drug.

2) Friends don't let friends mix their methadone with Klonopin/Xanax/Alcohol/CNS depressants. The funerals, just ONE, would make you reconsider the path you're skipping down. Please tread lightly and with care, and be aware that methadone lengthens your QT interval, meaning it messes with the electrical pulses that control your heart beating. It can potentially cause fatal, long QT syndrome, especially when mixed with other drugs that lengthen your QT interval, for example Ondansetron (Zofran).

Unlike Buprenorphine, with methadone, you don't have to worry about precipitating withdrawals, but unlike buprenorphine (when taken by itself), there is no ceiling limit with methadone, meaning the sky is the limit, meaning the more you take, the more side effects you'll get including severe nodding and slowed breathing, and you can die by overdosing on methadone alone, and you would be surprised what it's capable of.

I think that about sums it up, I'm closing this thread because this topic has been covered a million times and is probably better suited for basic drug discussion anyways.

Thanks for the replys I'm an idiot though I should've mentioned my mdone dose is 30mg.

I feel so sick it it feels like a letigitimate flu sick and not WD sick (I've been using for 5+ years so I know how dope sick feels like) I'm wondering if this is because my last dose of mdone was Saturday , I skipped my Sunday dose and I just got soo sick outta nowhere last night . I'm about to bang and take mdone from yesterday (30) + (30) from clinic :) hopefully I b high all day :)

Damn man, looks like you're still hell bent on trying to get bent. Good luck with your recovery.... you're really going to need it. But first..... You're going to have to actually want to get better, which means one day, you'll have to make some MAJOR lifestyle changes and it will be 100000x more difficult then than it would be now if you were to commit to MMT and your program and trying to get sober. Good luck and God Bless.
 
Yep deffo raises your tolerance, ive been up and down dose wise on methadone over the yrs ( Lowering as ive been abstaining from H ) to then end up relapsing, and having to go back up again on meds.

Being an addict is shite, proper leg iron .

Im working on my use at the mo, Im on 50ml's of methadone daily, and i now only usually use H 1 day a week now, since i restarted with psychedelics ive found im coming out of a depressive state and enjoying normal things in life again, and its opening my mind up to new and better ways of thinking. Anyway im digressing now.
 
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