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Does MDMA still work with an opiate addiction?

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When I first started college I loved to roll. Then I got into oxys & then heroin. I tried rolling a couple of times after that it just didnt seem to work. So now Im on methadone & havnt rolled in since I was 21 im 28 so thats 7 years. My bf said he wanted to roll w me some guy he works with has pills. Is it a waste of time? Hes on subs so id think itd apply to him too. Thanks
 
i'd like some more feedback on this as well. I went through a several month period of using h on the weekends the subsequently subutex for a few months. Now i manage cravings with kratom and don't use pills anymore. My rolls have kinda sucked lately too but I can't figure out why. I know i'm getting good quality stuff though.
 
im in the same boat. i have been addicted to opiates for a while and the last few rolls i had sucked too. i was also takeing tramadol so not sure if that had something to do with it also. i have been wondering about this for a year or so now. not sure whats going on there.

but if you really want to roll good an not risk wasting it. then i suggest you go clean for a couple weeks off the opiates before you try to roll. if heard that even the smallest amount of opiate in your system can block a roll. so try not taking anything for a month if you can. then try it. that would be ideal.
 
One thing addicts to CNS depressants need to be careful of is taking a high dose of any stimulant. Now this is not necessarily going to kill you, but what can result can be extremely uncomfortable. Many opiate users report "I hate the racing thoughts" "I had a panic attack." "Thought I was going to die" etc.

So what will happen is they will take a bigger dose of their depressant and the result is sometimes fatal or otherwise not good. Classic speed ball users died from either respiratory depression off the Heroin or cardiac arrest/myocardial infarction from cocaine. Even if a fatter hit of the depressant is not fatal, why would you want to raise your tolerance any higher?

Now as far as the pleasure of your roll, you are at the knife's end of probably needing a normal dose of your DOC before taking ecstasy in order to have a pleasurable experience. Depressant addiction really takes away from fun stimulants and certain psychedelics alike. It's much like dampening fire wood.

You'll really need to take a rain check on this one or make sure you watch the dose on either drug and be satisfied with less intensity. It's very easy to OD when you hardly feel side effects.
 
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I figured that...I knew I just wasnt always getting sucky pills bc friends would roll good & Id feel nothing. But if your DOC is a depressent & you wont enjoy stimulents as much how come cocaine works just as good for me. So If Id take enough of my DOC(which is easy since im on meth & get tge same dose everyday I could still roll? I havnt tried rolling since my heroin days which was a good 6 years ago.
 
I'm a opiate/herion addict myself and I have no problems rolling. I just do one dose of opiates/H in the morning so i won't be sick and wait as until dark to roll. Also make sure your getting MD and not anything else.
 
I think part of the problem with opiate users not rolling very hard is due to diet. Often those addicted to opiates do not get the nutrition they need and suffer from nutrient deficiencies. These things play an important part in production of serotonin and also the impact of free radicals produced from rolling. The E diet as others have referred to will greatly impact the intensity of your roll and reduction of side effects. Also, exercise is a crucial part of what your experience will be like. I myself have a minor opiate addiction, mostly kratom, hydrocodone, and oxycodone. I am able to roll much harder than most of my friends both addicted and non addicted. Finally, mindset is important as many who use opiates are trying to self medicate for anxiety and depression, both which may negatively effect your roll. Make sure you early on in the day in order to keep from being sick, you'll likely enjoy a nice dose of your DOC after you have come down as well. Hope this helps and enjoy!!! =D
 
Go with what ecstasy boy said or...
Actually try to taper off of suboxone or methadone.
I was in this position once, wanting the pleasures of life while being addicted to heroin.
The trouble with MMT and suboxone is that people don't want to taper all the way off. It's almost like you want to use that 10mg of methadone or .2mg of suboxone as a supplement.

When you get the chance to roll, think really hard about where your addiction to opiates has taken you and your eyes might open more than they ever had at any AA or NA meeting.

It happened for me. Good luck.
 
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