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Alcohol Does drinking bud light make you a homosexual? A thread

Mr. Krinkle said:
Anheiser Busch does not have a monopoly - MillerCoors / MolsonCoors is their main competitor

they'd like to have a monopoly but they don't have a monopoly

the beer industry is more of an oligopoly
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Hence the term veritable. Yes there are other massive beer companies.
 
deficiT said:
I hold no illusions that people will comprehend their own hypocrisy or come to the light side, but again, People crying about a beer can is so petty. Sorry buddy politics is in everything and always will be.

If this was 1950 people would be crying about a black man partnering with a beer company, because beer is the holy sacrament of the white man and no one else should be involved. History repeats itself.

"Big losses", trust me they'll be fine. If anything I don't think you people realize that the people railing about this are the "loud minority" and most ppl are grown enough to not make a big deal out of it.

"Virtue signaling" is just a buzzword for things people don't like. Of course an international corporation wants to appear to be with the times like everybody else.

Again this is all just an excuse to avoid saying out loud, that I don't want this minority group to have anything to do with my beer.
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I don't want anything on my beer that isn't the logo mate. Whether it's this leftist gender ideology, or a black lives matter beer can , or conservative movements like blue lives matter or the NRA , I don't want that shit on my beer.

I think it's very likely you subscribe to left wing politics and that's why you don't care about this and think everyone is a cry baby. If your favourite drink was co opted by one of the conservative movements I listed above , like blue lives matter or pro guns , I think you'd have a loud whinge as would the rest of the left. You say most people are too grown , this just isn't an issue that bothers you , leftists whinge about petty shit all the damn time.

If the people against this are the loud minority explain why BL has lost so much money?

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"Virtue signalling is the expression of a moral viewpoint with the intent of conveying good character. It is an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable on social media. It implies moral grandstanding by calling out an individual, company or organisation - suggesting they are only backing an idea to look good in the eyes of others."
 
brainonbugs said:
you think it's the people annoyed by bud light that are virtue signalling , not bud light? this hasn't been a good decision for sales and i'm sure they knew that their demographic wouldn't be into this. it's just a virtue signal , look how socially aware we are, we are a morally superior company etc etc.
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They made an advertisement with what is essentially a character actor, not Greta Thunberg or Nelson Mandela

Being anti-woke and making videos trying to cancel bud light is equivalent to virtue signaling. Their virtues being morals, traditionalism, protecting kids, etc.

For being supposedly against cancel culture, pro capitalism and free speech, they seem to be throwing a massive hissy fit over nothing.

Children don't drink bud light
 
Snafu in the Void said:
They made an advertisement with what is essentially a character actor.

Being anti-woke and making videos trying to cancel bud light is equivalent to virtue signaling. Their virtues being morals, traditionalism, protecting kids, etc.

For being supposedly against cancel culture, pro capitalism and free speech, they seem to be throwing a massive hissy fit over nothing.
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That's fair. I haven't seen any massive hissy fits in the circles I'm in , only calm disagreements like this one but I suppose some people get more bothered. Like Kid Rock, him shooting bud light cans with a damn AK-47 was pretty funny.
 
deficiT said:
Hence the term veritable. Yes there are other massive beer companies.
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if a bunch of people decide to boycott Budweiser/ Anheuser Busch, isn't that a good thing if it's the monopoly that it's believed to be?


so on one hand, you defend AB - but on the other hand, that monopoly needs to be taken down - is that where you're going with this?
 
Wow. Agnew coined "silent majority" in '69.
Double 20's are the 70's all over.

People boycotting are virtue signaling. Busch is virtue signaling. It's more obvious to you when it's not your virtues.

"Gallup. On December 17, 2020, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats, 25% identified as Republicans, and 41% as Independent."

That likely changes a bit, but both "sides" would do well to remember that they are approximately equal, but that people on neither "side" have slightly greater numbers.
Right now, the Dems are crowing because things are going their way because people got sick of Trump's shit.
When people were sick of the status quo and Trump got in, the Repugs were crowing.
Both would do well to remember that the above 41% decides elections and not get too cocky.

The silent majority is independent.
 
brainonbugs said:
I don't want anything on my beer that isn't the logo mate. Whether it's this leftist gender ideology, or a black lives matter beer can , or conservative movements like blue lives matter or the NRA , I don't want that shit on my beer.

I think it's very likely you subscribe to left wing politics and that's why you don't care about this and think everyone is a cry baby. If your favourite drink was co opted by one of the conservative movements I listed above , like blue lives matter or pro guns , I think you'd have a loud whinge as would the rest of the left. You say most people are too grown , this just isn't an issue that bothers you , leftists whinge about petty shit all the damn time.

If the people against this are the loud minority explain why BL has lost so much money?

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"Virtue signalling is the expression of a moral viewpoint with the intent of conveying good character. It is an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable on social media. It implies moral grandstanding by calling out an individual, company or organisation - suggesting they are only backing an idea to look good in the eyes of others."
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I can understand that, but was the drink really "co-opted"? They did some advertising work or some shit with a trans person. Hardly makes it the trans beer.

Yeah, you guessed it, I am about as left as Lenin politically, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every dumb things establishment dems and progressives do. I have more in common with Ron Paul than I do Nancy Pelosi. Some of it is excessive I agree, and your point is taken that I probably wouldn't drink a blue lives matter beer.

People will forget about this and they'll get their money back, assuredly. All publicity being good publicity, it literally just happened so of course there was a drastic change, but it will stabilize and this will just be another nothing burger culture warrior protest.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
if a bunch of people decide to boycott Budweiser/ Anheuser Busch, isn't that a good thing if it's the monopoly that it's believed to be?


so on one hand, you defend AB - but on the other hand, that monopoly needs to be taken down - is that where you're going with this?
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Did I say anything about breaking up their business? I'm not defending or attacking anyone, I'm simply stating my opinion on this week's social justice war.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
well you're ranting and raving about capitalism, so i figured i'd ask you that question

tough one to answer isn't it

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This is hardly me ranting and raving. I mentioned capitalism once. Yeah, sure I think we'd all be better off with more democratically controlled workplaces and less duopolies/monopolies. And I'm not praising ab I'm literally just saying it's not a big deal. You are both putting words in my mouth and taking this conversation way off course from where it was originally.
 
Electrum1 said:
What's it supposed to tell me?

My point wasn't about the rates they are killed at, or even questioning that, it was that almost all of the ~45 of them, if not all of them, that were killed last year weren't killed by right wingers or "alt right" as @deficiT was apparently claiming

So who committed most of the killings? Nobody here seems to care about finding out
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Black-on-Black Homicide - A Psychological-Political Perspective | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov www.ojp.gov

"Today homicide is the leading cause of death among young Black men, and contributes significantly to the shortened life-span of the Black male. In about 80-90% of the cases, the Black victim was killed by another Black, and about 52% of the murder victims were acquainted with their assailant."


so when i point out from another article, that black male to female trans are being killed at a far higher rate than everybody else in the trans community, i can't help but to think that this is the reason why


but if i think like that with those facts presented, i must be a racist right?

:)
 
brainonbugs said:
I don't want anything on my beer that isn't the logo mate. Whether it's this leftist gender ideology, or a black lives matter beer can , or conservative movements like blue lives matter or the NRA , I don't want that shit on my beer.

I think it's very likely you subscribe to left wing politics and that's why you don't care about this and think everyone is a cry baby. If your favourite drink was co opted by one of the conservative movements I listed above , like blue lives matter or pro guns , I think you'd have a loud whinge as would the rest of the left. You say most people are too grown , this just isn't an issue that bothers you , leftists whinge about petty shit all the damn time.

If the people against this are the loud minority explain why BL has lost so much money?

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"Virtue signalling is the expression of a moral viewpoint with the intent of conveying good character. It is an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable on social media. It implies moral grandstanding by calling out an individual, company or organisation - suggesting they are only backing an idea to look good in the eyes of others."
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Well, the left (the real left) takes a somewhat nihilistic attitude when it comes to consumer choice. In other words, no substantive change of the kind leftists desire will be brought about by consumer choice, either on the part of capitalists who provide the products, or consumers who buy the products

So most leftists would see something like this and would probably shrug. If people on the right just collectively shrugged and said, hmm, ok, guess I just won’t buy this product anymore, that would have been perfectly fine…it does take concerted effort to leverage these huge businesses through consumer choice though, didn’t the United Farm Workers boycott last for like 5 years or something? America has the attention span of a gnat and this will be just another blip, like so many instances of “cancel culture” from around when that was a big “thing”

I think most people are just really fatigued with culture war kinda crap tbh, and in response they just choose to fully “disengage.” It’s an underreported phenomenon currently. Most people don’t feel strongly about trans people in one way or another, they probably wouldn’t even know who the fuck that was on the can, and if they did get the sense that it’s virtue signaling (it is) they’ll likely just do an eye roll but buy it anyway, because they like the product. Do you think people need to “co sign” whatever dumb shit a product is pushing on its packaging or not buy it? I mean I hardly take that kinda attitude myself, I don’t see whether the CEO of hobby lobby or chick fil a or whatever has changed their opinion about gays or abortion or whatever lol

Tbh I’d be fine with all products being sold in “repo man”-style packaging lol, just cuz I loathe the advertising industry so much


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Mr. Krinkle said:
maybe you should get your new lefty friend @brokedownpalace10 to help you out with those questions since he knows everything too

:)
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I didn't defend them or say they should be broken up, but defending the practice of a company and believing they should be broken up as a monopoly have nothing to do with each other.
If a monopoly is broken up, it's not destroyed, it's broken up. Just for one aspect of it.
Our antitrust laws are hardly, if at all, enforced anymore. They should be enforced, not the company boycotted for whatever reason. Apples and Kumquats.


Liberal, lefty, pinko, Marxist, bedwetter sympathizer

Hey, one thing different in the double 20's is right wingers loving Russia. Guess that's why they call them "red" states.
 
Probably ..yea idk why the right love the rooskies either

It's kinda like the lefties love for the Ukrainian Nazis

They all sound about as confused as Bruce Jenner


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Mr. Krinkle said:
Probably ..yea idk why the right love the rooskies either

It's kinda like the lefties love for the Ukrainian Nazis

They all sound about as confused as Bruce Jenner


:idea:
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Lol right on the money…. it’s all essentially coming down to one big contradiction while the “power” and “wealth” of the country just sit back and manipulate.

Dangle a couple carrots, pull a couple strings, press a few buttons… more money, more power.

People are extremely caught up with the flavor of the week these days. So deeply caught up they forget last week’s flavor.

Topics like these have consumed every forum I belong to and it’s a shame. Lots of division where there should be very little outside of unity and self expression.
 
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