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Does believing in Evolution say a lot about you

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methamaniac said:
RICO, First you say you dont know.
Then you attempt to answer by giving some half but explanation without even noticing what you stepped in. So do you know or not?

On paradoxes, see the chicken and egg is a paradox because you need chicken for egg but egg for chicken. I dont understand how to make this clearer.
Let me see, you need sperm to fertilize and egg butyou first need egg(fully formed) to have something to be fertalized. Which was first? Do you see a pattern?
Sorry if I not answering your questions fast enough, I'm debating more than one person
( winning I might add)
I will do best to get to them
Ps I Rico I never said that evolution not being true equates God. CLASSIC evolutionist dogmatic claim on your part.
My premise simply is evolution isnt true.
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Your post, once again, makes it clear you have no understanding of.. well.. much..

I said I don't KNOW.. i then followed up with a hypothesis.. you know what that is, right?

The chicken and the egg is not a paradox.. I strongly doubt you studied science at a high school level let alone biology at college if this simple childrens saying has you stumped as to the mechanisms of evolution.

And what are you saying is true, if not evolution? You're right.. I assumed.. can you honestly say my assumption is wrong?

I bet you watch the "Banana - The atheists nightmare" video with a boner.
 
No, but there are mutations that have caused beneficial changes, purely by chance. And many that have caused negative changes - for example the only reason Down Syndrome probably still exists is that we value human life and people love their children so rather than let them die out we protect them. There are surely positive spontaneous mutations that have happened for populations of humans though I can't think of one off the top of my head. Perhaps someone more learned in the topic can chime in.

I also don't know the answer to which came first, egg or chicken. But it's not so simple as that. The mechanisms for which creatures use eggs for reproduction evolved much, much earlier than did the chicken. So by the time the chicken existed, it was already part of a long line of egg-reproducers. The chicken didn't just pop into existence one day, nor did the chicken egg. It was a gradual process of change. The point at which one species becomes another isn't clear-cut. How did the egg-reproduction method come into being? I don't know, I've never studied evolution to that extent. I'm sure there are people who have made it their life's work who would have an answer for you though. Just because people on here can't give you an exact answer for some of the specific complexities of how certain things evolved doesn't mean evolution isn't real. See my examples in my post. I can see evolution happening (humans breeding plants and animals, human height increasing, human lifespan increasing, bacterial evolution as a result of introduction of antibiotics, etc) even though I am not educated enough in the specifics to answer your question.

But you still haven't answered my question, you just replied with your own question again.
 
Look I'm doing best to answer your questions.
I have gave many questions beside a simple
chicken and egg question.
I just use this because evolution has to keep jumping over it.
Honestly, honestly I ask, do you not even remotely see my point.
I'm begging for honest answer
X, Why do u need someone else to come in and give you examples of what you have faith in
 
Pale skin was more efficient at turning sun light into vitamin D when there was little..

Afro type hair has an insulating affect which stops too much heat from the sun getting to the head..

And many more..

How does creationist hypothesis answer why we have vestigial genes? Some of which we share with other mamals? And some we even share with other animals all together?

Here's another source to help quell that ignorance of yours, mathethesomething.
 
^^Another good question.

I don't think evolution has jumped over the chicken and egg thing, I think there are people who could answer that for you in great detail. Just not on this forum. Having not gone into evolution as an area of study for my life, I simply do not have the required knowledge to answer that, it's a complex chain of events spanning perhaps a billion years or more. But it doesn't mean that what I'm saying has no merit. Again, I'd like you to answer the question I posed to you.
 
methamaniac said:
Look I'm doing best to answer your questions.
I have gave many questions beside a simple
chicken and egg question.
I just use this because evolution has to keep jumping over it.
Honestly, honestly I ask, do you not even remotely see my point.
I'm begging for honest answer
X, Why do u need someone else to come in and give you examples of what you have faith in
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You have not provided any answers or even rebuttals, though.

The chicken and the egg thing is actually very simple..

Bit by bit.

Bird a with DNA reading ABABABABA gives birth to bird with DNA reading ABABABAA, gives birth to ABAABABAAA, etc etc.. no one step gives enough difference to the bird to classify it as a different species as it's parent, it's grand parents or even it's greats for many generations.. but if you could stand a bird and the direct descendent of a bird by 100000, 1000000, 10000000 years next to eachother, there would be noticable differences but more importantly, they would not be able to produce fertile offspring.. Where did the chicken start? It's not that simple.

So keep searching https://answersingenesis.org/..
 
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rickolasnice said:
You have not provided any answers or even rebuttals, though.
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LOL I'm the one who proposed the premise
you need faith to prove evolution
I have supported it.
The lack of being able to explain how it could produce life fully functioning as we know it is
What I have supported.
Your lack to be able to explain it on all levels reveals your faith. It should work the same at all levels
With all the millions of species we have today we should have found intermediate fossils
What does a bird do why it is waiting on wing to be formed.
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yes, it is possible for jt to survive with half formed wing, But how would its genome know to start making wing if genome has no clue of flight
 
No.. you need a brain to understand evolution.

We have found intermediate fossils. Clearly you haven't taken my advice to look for evidence or even look at my links..

Before I spoon feed you information.. first understand how unlikely it is that we would find a fossil of any kind.. you understand what conditions it takes for a fossil to form, right?? And then, being the mathematical probability graduate that you are, you understand the likelihood of finding formed fossils, yeah?

But still.. no rebuttal.. no evidence... nothing but a yeah but god of the gaps.

Do you need faith to believe in gravity? Go on.. Jump.

The aetiocetus (25 million years ago) is the transitional form between pakicetus (50 million years ago) and the present day gray Whale..

That ones for free..
 
^^^^
Care tk explain evolution of wing
I'm giving all kinds of rebuttal.
my questions aren't being answered and I have the proposed premise
For example x, why do you need someone to explain your faith of evolution

I can feel the force kf gravity
 
I could, easily.. but first you acknowledge, respond and rebuttal the wealth of information already put forward to you..

Without the "Yeah! But!" questions you're continuing to assume holds some kind of weight in a grown up debate.
 
I'll help you out.. start with the transitional form i posted in my previous post.

And your questions are being answered.. you're ignoring the answers.
 
Your the one to answer my questions first
I proposed them first.
And are u trying to say I have to answer questions with responses you decide are correct ones
Explain and list your answer sets / parameters for possible answers then
 
Ok I play ur game, ( I dont duck and dodge)
Why do we find million year old fossils
And dinosaur fossils with flesh on them
( with dna which has a half life of 512 years)
but cleverly no Intermediate ones
Why are there sk many hoaxes if scientist dont think there important to theory
More trouble for evolution
keep up with what scientist are saying about your faith bro
 
Is that one question?

Why do we find million year old fossils? Why wouldn't we?

With flesh? Why wouldn't we, if conditions were right?

DNA? Oh.. that's where you were going..

http://www.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html

Iron is an element present in abundance in the body, particularly in the blood, where it is part of the protein that carries oxygen from the lungs to the tissues. Iron is also highly reactive with other molecules, so the body keeps it locked up tight, bound to molecules that prevent it from wreaking havoc on the tissues.

After death, though, iron is let free from its cage. It forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules thought to be involved in aging.

"The free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots," Schweitzer said. "They basically act like formaldehyde."

Formaldehyde, of course, preserves tissue. It works by linking up, or cross-linking, the amino acids that make up proteins, which makes those proteins more resistant to decay.
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I've answered your intermediate question more than once but here's a recap:

Before I spoon feed you information.. first understand how unlikely it is that we would find a fossil of any kind.. you understand what conditions it takes for a fossil to form, right?? And then, being the mathematical probability graduate that you are, you understand the likelihood of finding formed fossils, yeah?

The aetiocetus (25 million years ago) is the transitional form between pakicetus (50 million years ago) and the present day gray Whale..
 
Yes the DNA my friend
I was saying million of year old DNA when it only has half life of 512 years
Google DNA Half-Life
pick a source
why is this
 
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