Does anyone out there get plain euphoria from amphetamine?

[falsifiedhypothesi]

My adderall script has made me realize how strange of a drug amp is. It doesn't cause euphoria like opiates but instead seems boost the feeling of accomplishment when working on or completing something. This probably sounds like obvious information but I was always under the impression that people felt euphoria from the drug alone not the things you do on the drug.

If I'm not doing something productive I get what seems to be dysphoria while on amp. Is this common or am I missing something?

 

[switchtop]

I know exactly what you mean. I have a script for Ritalin, but I've dabbled with adderall just for shits and giggles a few times. However, every experience was extremely terrible, and I vowed to never try it again. The last time was when I snorted 20 mg and like 2 hours later while having sex with my girlfriend, my heart was beating out of my chest and I had difficulty breathing. Plus it took me like 30 minutes to get hard in the first place, which is very unlike me.
Why was it terrible?
Because I was taking it to get HIGH. For me, if I take it to get high, the experience is DYSPHORIA, just like you said. It's the same with Ritalin to be honest, except to not as great an extent. For example, if I take Ritalin and I try to just lay down, I have a horrible time. However, I can have an ok time (not euphoric, not dysphoric) on Ritalin if I do something as small as watch TV, as long as there's something to focus on. That's what it's meant for anyways.
I have no clue how some people love taking amphetamine (adderall), but I guess everyone is different.
Another downside of adderall for me, was that one time I drank heavily after taking like 20 mg. After about 5 shots in me I felt like a God. But not the good kind. The kind that thinks they're the fucking shit and is an unpleasant jerk. I ended up drinking about 15 shots worth of alcohol that day, as well as snorting like another 20 mg somewhere in between. I ended up fighting my friend and putting him in a full nelson headlock, pissing on my girlfriend's neighbor's window, getting slapped in the face by her roommate for banging on her door demanding she come take shots, and even being a total dick to my girlfriend. I had to apologize to so many people the next day, it was horrible. All of that is basically the opposite of my personality.
Adderall just isn't for me I guess. Ritalin on the other hand, has never let me down and I've been taking it continuosly for 14 years. Try out Ritalin. It's also pretty cool to drink on, makes it feel a lot like coke.

 

[William Dex]

Adderall is garbage, if you can get a script for Dexedrine, it's the more euphoric, less side effects and more addictive and potent form of it. But as stated it's very addictive and almost destroyed my life so take warning it is not candy and will bring you to your knees. But most importantly if we're not speaking hypothetically, STAY AWAY FROM AMPHETAMINES in general, THEY FUCK YOU UP! And yes I do get euphoria, who doesn't?

 

[Rio Fantastic]

William Dex, your post is riddled with inaccuracies and misinformation.

Adderall is garbage

Your opinion, could you not state it as a fact?

if you can get a script for Dexedrine, it's the more euphoric, less side effects and more addictive and potent form of it. But as stated it's very addictive and almost destroyed my life so take warning it is not candy and will bring you to your knees.

Hahaha. First of all you make out like Dexedrine is just plain better then Adderall, which is again your opinion and not necessarily true. Lots of people find Adderall is better for studying and find it gives the more energy whereas Dexedrine gives them more euphoria. However, everyone responds to drugs differently, so a simplistic judgement like "Adderall is garbage get dexedrine", whilst it may be true for you, won't be true for everyone. And telling him that dexedrine WILL bring him to his knees? Oh, please. It's not heroin. Yeah, it has abuse potential, but come on, dexies and adderall are widely used in colleges all over America and is prescribed to thousands and thousands of people. In my opinion you have to be a very weak & short-sighted person to let it take over and destroy your life. If you want to warn people that it can be addictive then I commend you for that, but I'm noticing a pattern where you think that everyone will respond to drugs exactly like you. Do you understand that there are people in the world who are different to you? Assuming that the OP is weak and assuring him that Dexedrine will "bring him to his knees" in thr same breath as you recommend it to him is retarded.

Also on that note since you're stateside you guys have access to Desoxyn which is d-methamphetamine hydrochloride

It's insanely difficult to get this prescribed for ADHD. Anyone who has a script for it for ADHD must have a doctor working in a pill mill or one that's really, really out of touch with modern prescribing guidelines. The vast majority of doctors will not prescribe desoxyn for ADHD, the tiny amount that will will only do it as a very last resort and then only if you can prove that your severe ADHD is debilitating enough to be destroying your life, a few bad grades isn't really going to cut it. Practically the only thing desoxyn is prescribed for these days is severe narcolepsy.

Basically a less harmful and potent form a crystal meth you'd find on the street.

No, it isn't. Since desoxyn is guaranteed to be pure how on earth do you figure it's less potent that crystal meth off the street?

I've read it's moreso smoother in terms of amphetamines, so whereas dexedrine is all hard all the time, this would almost be like cocaine in terms of smoothness and calmness, but i've never tried Desoxyn so i wouldn't know,

The fuck are you even talking about now? I highly doubt you read this, I think you pulled it out of your ass. I mean "calmness"? Even my buddy with ADHD isn't calm on fucking crystal meth. Who the hell judges their stimulants in terms of their "calmness"? I've never tried dexedrine, but I think I have a pretty good idea of its effects having tried "base", which is plain old d-amphetamine, and meth in my opinion is definitely more intense, so I don't know what you mean saying "dexedrine is harder all the time". And the comparison to cocaine is another ridiculous bit of bullshit, meth is much more comparable to amphetamine than it is to cocaine, hell i'd say even ritalin feels closer to cocaine than amphetamine. Coke and amphetamine are really distinct highs, whereas I'd say meth feels like amphetamine on steroids. I've never heard anyone other than you claim that meth is closer to coke than it is to amphetamine.

i'm simply speculating off the chemical makeup and how i'd interpret the effects based on this.

No, no you're not. You're pulling total bullshit out of your ass, and you know that its bullshit and since you don't even have personal experience to back it up, you've figured that you'll try to sound clever by pretending to be extrapolating the effects from their "chemical makeup". Actually, no, maybe I'm being unfair here. So tell us, William, what exactly is it about the chemical makeup of meth that makes you think it would be closer to coke than it would be to amphetamine? If I was going to be mean I'd ask you to tell me how the chemical makeup shows its coke-like properties in terms of "smoothness" and "calmness" too, but I'll be nice and just ask you to explain how the chemical makeup has led you to believe meth is closer to coke than amp.

Also to keep in mind, most you'll get from a dr. is 20mg a day, with meth users dosing at 100-500mg per hit. So to get tweaked for a day you'd have to eat like 2 weeks worth of a script.

Oh dear God you're totally retarded, aren't you? If someone without a tolerance to meth took 200mg+ of desoxyn they'd end up in the emergency room. Street users may be using 100-500mg of product, but they aren't taking that dose of pure meth, because cuts and impurities in the synthesis add a lot of weight to it. How do you not know this? Are you like 13 years old and have only been learning about drugs for a week? I can't believe you're advising people to take 2 weeks worth off a script in one dose. This advise isn't only stupid it's really dangerous. You can spout your uninformed, ridiculous & stupid opinions presented as fact all you want, but you really should keep your mouth shut when it comes to advising people on things like dosage, since your idiocy could actually hospitalize someone if they follow it.

Still, I'm looking forward to hearing your analysis on the chemical makeup of meth, William.

 

[William Dex]

Rio, Desoxyn from what i've read is 3x less potent not in terms of the drug itself but the effects by ROA than street meth, especially since it's taken orally, not IVed, smoked or snorted and it's smoother as it's less racemic than street speed, and yes i don't have a science degree but i'm sure i'm not too far off with some of my information. So don't be so eager to pull out the lash. Also, yes i've heard people take 100+mg desoxyn and some people 300-500mg(ask if you want the link) dexedrine which is 1-1 ratio in terms of potency so again, not too difficult to think of being a possibility. Also i wasn't referring to desoxyn as being closer to coke i said it feels more calm like coke and less edgy and like you're about to chew through your gums which d-amp does. If i were referring to the drug itself i would have used focalin or ritalin as comparison to coke (even that doesn't really compare). Adderall btw is garbage, the levoamphetamine causes all the unwanted side effects as means of lowering the risk of abuse, so yes Dexedrine is better not by opinion, it's a fact, unless you like feeling like shit. Obtaining a script as difficult as it is, is much more likely if you've tried every single other available ADHD med available to no avail. And sorry if i was giving directions, i didn't mean to i just rambled a bit and opened a whole can of worms, so i'll take a seat. I've also edited my original post to avoid any confusion you stated i may have created. I had no ill-intentions and i apologize. The part about the drug 'bringing me to my knees 'was more in terms of the severe psychotic effects of long-term use (which in my book is just as bad as heroin, if not worse, roast me idc, i'd rather lose self-control than lose my grip on reality); Both adderall and dexedrine are addictive. Also i'm a rare case, dexedrine is usually well-liked and tolerated.

 

[Kittycat5]

Still opinion that Adderall is garbage. I have used both Adderall and Dexedrine many, many times and prefer Adderall.

 

[falsifiedhypothesi]

And yes I do get euphoria, who doesn't?

I don't, at least not in the way other drugs produce euphoria.

 

[SiCc]

No euphoria for me either. High doses made me feel disconnected and depressed.

 

[namnoc16]

I do get some euphoria but not like dope. Also must be doing something,I used to love working on it.Remember my boss and coworkers used to call me Iron Man when I was on it.They thought I was highly motivated,well half that description was accurate(at least the root of the word).

 

[Johndoedoe.junk]

My adderall script has made me realize how strange of a drug amp is. It doesn't cause euphoria like opiates but instead seems boost the feeling of accomplishment when working on or completing something. This probably sounds like obvious information but I was always under the impression that people felt euphoria from the drug alone not the things you do on the drug.

If I'm not doing something productive I get what seems to be dysphoria while on amp. Is this common or am I missing something?

If we're talking methamphetamine, I used to get quite nice euphoria from it. Can't vouch for Adderall but when I tried Ritalin in high school it gave me a nice feeling of well-being and contentment if you can call that euphoria.

 

[ThatOneDude!]

well thanks William Dex for giving me some stuff to laugh at! haha you make me think ur mom gave you some random stuff, who knows what, and told you it was something else. Probably some form of clever way to keep you from ending up out on the streets getting hurt..... lol fuk if i know!...... but its more than obvious when you see someone making false statements when you know the truth. i dont know if that crossed your mind ever, but like.... maybe next time refer to your personal experience more so, than stating these "facts" Anyways, have fun with whatever ur mom is givin you.... being calm is a sign you have reached the most advanced stage of euphoria!.....

uhm.... lol okay anyways.... haha lost my train of thought for a second. This is actually a cool thread! mainly because of Will and what he's got to say. but thank you Rio Fantastic for making the much needed corrections for anyone who is stumbling upon this thread looking for some info.... lol

I do want to mention, i have done desoxyn before, and i must say, Dam! like compared to Adderall.... yah you cant compare almost. Adderall for me is more like only thing i notice is i've had energy for a long time now... haha, i use those for when im left hangin with my withdrawals from meth..... i need to stay awake somehow.... even then.... if i can pass out high on meth (due to long term constant heavy use, and adaptive tendencies from my body) then counting on adderall to keep me awake is best done after i wake up lol. then i can actually wake up and not be stuck half asleep, getting an ass whoopin of fatigue!

What i actually wanted to say about desoxyn tho, is that compared to the meth i get... well i should say MOST meth out there tends to be rather descent! and well desoxyn being that fact of where its made, is pretty much gonna be a harder hit. However! like i've been climbing this "ladder" for a good while now. so finally i collect from this unique source. But i mean like, its THE source! as in there are people who can bake a frozen pizza, and there are also some talented fukin Chefs as well!) Anyways, purity isnt a factor as its not been touched yet. and for potency..... i'd say depending on batch, usually its about 30-50% STRONGER than desoxyn! now that is sayin a lot!! lol.

so for getting Euphoria from amphetamines..... "to each his own" in the sense you might have the right brain chemistry that responds well. for me tho..... well addys are completely a tool for me, like just utility, i cant say theres a high with em, except they have nice extended release features.... but these icy shards have got me on the moon all the time! and yah, im completely fuked up on meth! it COMPLETELY redefines cravings on a WHOLE nother level for me! ...and my homies.
Last thing, i want to mention, from the info i gathered from various sites, it appears that meth is the drug that releases the highest concentration of dopamine!!! hense the psycho cravings! i dont doubt it.
.....mind you now, that molly is low dopamine, HIGH serotonin, vise versa for meth. so not to be confused.
and yah, want more kick from ur amps... look up potentiators as well as NMDA Antagonists if you dont want to have a tolerance, or a low one at least. What i do for the antagonists is constantly eating magnesium citrate (aprox 400-600mg doses, 2-4 times a day!) as well, DXM is a Powerful antagonist. However be cautious with how you take that, mainly becaues its own tolerance will spike and then it eventually becomes more useless! and if you are curious about ketamine or dont wanna try PCP (i dont blame you) then look up robotrippin or just getting high on DXM! lol

but yes.... you trip out hard on DXM, then you definitely CAN test positive for PCP if for some reason you were tested.
i fukin tweak and just go on and on and on. like when will i ACTUALLY STOP!..... lol its crazy, this stuff. so many times do i question if i need a zanie er not. almost always i realize i'm good and just keep on going. altho yah, there are those times, i get too concerned and well, you should always have some benzo if ur gonna plan on getting amped up all kinds and tweakin for the week(s)

OK I STOP NOW!..... lol

EDIT: Hey, KICK ASS! haha i just realized i'm bluelighter! lol dont know why i mention but yah...