He didn't bloody say anything about 'shit faced'. He said he takes enough so he feels he can function. In fact he very specifically said 'getting fucked up is not exactly what I' m after these days '.
... Did you READ his post before replying?
Thank you.
It seems we have people coming at us who want to discredit our years of research & experience with the usual "you're spreading lies, drugs are bad" rhetoric.
I've noticed this happening on every website that I speak out against the misinformation & value of opiates/opioids. Who would have thought it would happen here, on bluelight of all places!
Either these people truly are ignorant, had bad experiences and are just projecting their ignorance onto everybody else or they're getting paid to do it.
There is a concerted effort to knock down any discussion of using opioids (apparently for pain now even, according to NapalonyMurzyn).
It doesn't feel organic, although I do rarely get the occasional person who steps in & backs me up. Although a lot of people still buy the "you'll die if you use heroin" line too.
I've used opioids including heroin, tramadol, morphine, buprenorphine, methadone, hydrocodone, propoxyphene, etc.. since I was 19. I'm now in my mid 30's and never once overdosed. But I was probably more responsible enough than most & knew better not to mix them with 20 other CNS depressants, especially alcohol, unless my tolerance allowed it. Only time I ever felt like I might OD was when I was given fentanyl unknowingly but even then I knew better by tell tale signs that it wasn't "normal" heroin (white powder, no vinegar smell, etc..) and knew to start off extremely small with it. Thankfully I knew it was fent right away when a tiny bit threw me into the heaviest nod I've ever had. I did not enjoy fentanyl honestly. None of the same good characteristics of heroin & overly potent.
If these things weren't stigmatized, users or people who might want to use could be taught these things openly to avoid accidents and death. But I digress.
I noticed recently that G00gle recently removed a lot of old government-funded studies showing the effectiveness of morphine and various opioids on depression & neurotic & psychotic states. So this information is being buried more, when I use to be able to go grab all kinds of research and scientific papers showing the effectiveness, but now you have to dig harder and it's scarce. But all this information you & I have presented is still out there if you look, which it seems like these other people refuse to or haven't.
Makes you wonder why they don't want anyone to know. Although I have many guesses.
I've felt that way while on Amitryptilene. Yes it pushed the bad feelings down but also all the good ones. I felt like nothing, and eventually this state of numbness became so unbearable I stopped taking them. If you get to the point where you decide suicidal depression is preferable to taking your medication, then the medication isn't working!
Opiates are more selective that way. I can still feel friendship and pleasure etc on a moderate dose, just the pain recedes.
This is why Chinese workers in America routinely smoked opium. It does have an energizing 'bracing' effect if you don't take too much.
Reminds me of workers in Thailand, I believe? Who use kratom for that extra kick at work. Although kratom's never been satisfactory for me, for those with the tolerance that permits it, I could see how this would help.
Your amitryptilene experience echoes my experiences with many SSRI's, SNRI's and mood stabilizers. I'd rather still be able to feel joy & pleasure than be a robot on another substance that also causes dependence.
And yeah, all information you've given is absolutely the truth. It should be common knowledge at this point. I guess if we didn't stigmatize drugs, we could actually teach people the differences instead of having programs like DARE tell you that "drugs are bad!"... Ignorance has lead to a lot of casualties.
I for one still use opioids for my mental & physical health & am definitely not ashamed of it. Of course the one I get to legally use is a partial agonist, which I think are less effective since once the ceiling is reached, it's over. And takes forever to taper down from and get back to an effective dose. I prefer a shorter (like 8-12hr half life) type of opioid personally. These people in denial on here will never make me feel any less because of the way I medicate, no matter how ignorant they act, or how snobby & insulting they might be. Maybe they should go check out how it's worked out in countries where heroin & other drugs are already legalized and regulated!! But that might be too much work for them haha
UltimateFixx, you are a very intelligent person! And I appreciate you spreading the reality of opiates & the truth. It's just one tool we have if we ever want to open people's eye's and minds enough to push past this drug war bullshit.
When it's a crime to feel a certain way physically or mentally, with a plant or a pill, as long as you're not hurting others, then that means you do not have control over your own body or mind. And people should fight this!
Cheers!
