Does Actovegin repair brain damage?

Cheap, shitty, and barely worth it even putting into your body, yes.

If you're looking for GH, you need to be on the lookout for Humatrope, Jin, Norditropin, etc.
 
how familiar are you with Jintropin? which one of the "Tropins" should be avoided (Jintropin, Hygetropin, Kigtropin, Somatropin, etc.)? I read Kigtropin is an rHGH (does this mean I can get blood-borne diseases using this like the other poster mentioned, TheGlimmaMan?). I contacted the seller of Jintropin but it was sold out and I was recommended Kigtropin. The seller told me its raw material is same as Jintropin (not sure what the seller means by this).

Voxide said:
Cheap, shitty, and barely worth it even putting into your body, yes.

If you're looking for GH, you need to be on the lookout for Humatrope, Jin, Norditropin, etc.
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I thought the IP blue tops were decent. I've switched up to ELITROPIN. Really just can't afford Jintropin, etc.

I have heard good things about Kigtropin too, but heard it is hard to come by these days. If you have a source, i'd say give it a run.
 
how many days can 10 vials with 10 IUs (3.7 mg) in each of them good for on average minimum? If I take 2 IUs daily, then it's good for 50 days? Correct? 10 multiply 10 is 100, divide 2 is 50. Did I get my calculations right? Regarding cycles; is this depending on the person? Do I stay on the drug 50 days straight then take 2 weeks off it, then back again? What's a better cycle?

Since I'm new, never done this before, do I inject intravenously (vein) or subcutaneous (skin)? I'm looking into getting on Kigtropin.
 
Do NOT inject intravenously or subcutaneously.

Someone who knows what they are doing would inject intramuscularly.

ongos, plain and simple... you are not ready for this. Yeah, this is good preliminary research but you still have a long, long way to go before you will be ready to make the commitment that is steroids.

There is much more involved and you don't even have the basics yet.

Its good to ask questions but if you follow through with your decision you will end up fucking yourself up.

research. research. research. Do what those who are successful in achieving their goals do. Some of these things that are suggested is:

  1. Lift heavy and consistently for approx 3 years
  2. Eat clean
  3. Achieve your natural genetic potential first

You truly aren't anywhere near being ready for steroids yet
 
No IV inject!!! This is dangerous. Especially if you're stuff isn't 100% pure. It gives you a bigger initial "kick" but is out of your system quicker.

I prefer SubQ for substained release.

The standard dosage is 5 days on, 2 days off. I myself have been on over a year.

OVERDONE - Why do you swear by IM injects? Studies i've read have shown it doesn't actually increase absorption or bioavailability of the GH? Maybe makes it a little faster acting but that's it. I'm always looking to learn more so if you have an opinion on this i'd like to hear you out. I've only been doing subQ.
 
OverDone said:
Do NOT inject intravenously or subcutaneously.

Someone who knows what they are doing would inject intramuscularly.

ongos, plain and simple... you are not ready for this. Yeah, this is good preliminary research but you still have a long, long way to go before you will be ready to make the commitment that is steroids.

There is much more involved and you don't even have the basics yet.

Its good to ask questions but if you follow through with your decision you will end up fucking yourself up.

research. research. research. Do what those who are successful in achieving their goals do. Some of these things that are suggested is:

  1. Lift heavy and consistently for approx 3 years
  2. Eat clean
  3. Achieve your natural genetic potential first

You truly aren't anywhere near being ready for steroids yet
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This doesn't really apply if he is using the GH for anti-aging/wellness benefits. Anyone can use it really, unlike steroids.

If he is planning on running bodybuilding doses, then I'd hope he knows what he's about to get into.
 
^^I got egg on my face. i got myself confused between this thread and the other one that has somehow managed to remain alive :\
I'd be interested in checking GH out myself. Think I'll look into it and make a decision in the near future.
 
um dude? you don't know who I am or what I've done all these years. I've been a power lifter for over 10 years! I'm under 30 years old. Never used roids or HGH, just starting to get curious about it now. I've always used supplements you could buy in stores such as multi vitamins and protein powders. I eat clean. That's about it. Isn't injecting intramuscularly similar to subcutaneously (under the skin)? I might have mixed it up. Both involve injecting on the skin correct? Like how you would get a flu shot (not intravenously)? And HGH is not really roids though right? I don't plan on using roids, just HGH. I do my research. Just still have a few more questions and thanks for the intramuscularly suggestion (can I shoot it on my huge pecs then)?

OverDone said:
Do NOT inject intravenously or subcutaneously.

Someone who knows what they are doing would inject intramuscularly.

ongos, plain and simple... you are not ready for this. Yeah, this is good preliminary research but you still have a long, long way to go before you will be ready to make the commitment that is steroids.

There is much more involved and you don't even have the basics yet.

Its good to ask questions but if you follow through with your decision you will end up fucking yourself up.

research. research. research. Do what those who are successful in achieving their goals do. Some of these things that are suggested is:

  1. Lift heavy and consistently for approx 3 years
  2. Eat clean
  3. Achieve your natural genetic potential first

You truly aren't anywhere near being ready for steroids yet
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yeah the intramuscularly part lost me because I always thought it's either intravenously or subcutaneously. I had doubt intravenously because that's usually for drawing blood last time I checked. Subcutaneously is usually how you get your immunizations correct? Like flu shots, hep b and a shots, etc. Now isn't intramuscularly going through the skin which has muscles which then is technically subcutaneously? What's the difference again?

HeavyMetal64 said:
No IV inject!!! This is dangerous. Especially if you're stuff isn't 100% pure. It gives you a bigger initial "kick" but is out of your system quicker.

I prefer SubQ for substained release.

The standard dosage is 5 days on, 2 days off. I myself have been on over a year.

OVERDONE - Why do you swear by IM injects? Studies i've read have shown it doesn't actually increase absorption or bioavailability of the GH? Maybe makes it a little faster acting but that's it. I'm always looking to learn more so if you have an opinion on this i'd like to hear you out. I've only been doing subQ.
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I'm a bodybuilder for over 10 years without the use of roids or GH so I already have the build. I'm under 30 years old. I want to use it for wellness benefits mostly and to see what it can do for me, not to bulk up, but if it helps then it helps. I only plan on using the minimum IU's recommended (1.5 to 2.0 IU daily). Nothing outrageous, and this cost money so I need to just control the use.

Voxide said:
This doesn't really apply if he is using the GH for anti-aging/wellness benefits. Anyone can use it really, unlike steroids.

If he is planning on running bodybuilding doses, then I'd hope he knows what he's about to get into.
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thanks for making me do more research regarding intramuscularly shots. How many types of shots are there anyway? 3?

OverDone said:
^^I got egg on my face. i got myself confused between this thread and the other one that has somehow managed to remain alive :\
I'd be interested in checking GH out myself. Think I'll look into it and make a decision in the near future.
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types of syringe to use?

Is insulin syringes the syringe to use? i heard this one is for subcutaneous use only.

how many cc/ml is per IU? these insulin syringes I have only have ml and cc wordings, not IU. I could google this but it's better to get this all in this thread.

Also what's the deal with letting amount of air in the syringe equal to amount of the "product" I will use to inject? I always thought putting air in syringes by way of pulling the plunger is dangerous to inject? No air should be injected into the body, right? Another instruction I read is that if air bubbles appear, re-do the process so the air bubble is not present. Any difference in "air" and "air bubble"? is one simply air and the latter is air in the product I will use to inject?
 
Insulin syringe . 1 ml per 10 iu vial. A little bit of air SubQ is no big deal. So if you're mixing in 1ml and are wanting to inject 2iu's a day - withdraw to the 20units mark. 100 units = 1mL. I usually just keep the pin in the vial if there is air, tap the air to the top, reinject into vial and withdraw more if more fluid is necessary.
 
are there any syringes that come with the IU label or are they all in ml/cc? thanks for the explanation.

HeavyMetal64 said:
Insulin syringe . 1 ml per 10 iu vial. A little bit of air SubQ is no big deal. So if you're mixing in 1ml and are wanting to inject 2iu's a day - withdraw to the 20units mark. 100 units = 1mL. I usually just keep the pin in the vial if there is air, tap the air to the top, reinject into vial and withdraw more if more fluid is necessary.
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They are measured in units. Usually 50 or 100 units.

100 units equats to 10 iu or 1 ml if you are reconstituting growth with 1mL of bacteriostatic water.
 
ok I'm using HGH now, it's only been a week, not sure if I should even feel any effects, which I don't feel anything. Not sure if actovegin will be a more superior drug. I will try it once I find a reputable company that can ship it to the U.S. but so far I'm only using HGH (Kigtropin). I think I will see results in a few months. Keep you posted...
 
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