johntheman
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I have about 2-3 mgs of DOC and 500mics of 25c. I want the peaks to synergize so could anyone give me some pointers on this combo? No weed but 2 nitrous bulbs.
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DOC or 25c-NBOME first?
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johntheman
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I'm sorry didn't realize there was already a combo thread. Maybe take the 25c an hour after DOC? or should i wait till i can acquire weed someday?
I assume you are aware that DOC lasts for something like 20 hours while 25C is probably more like 8-12 IIRC? At least for me it was not that long. So I'd start with the DOC and wait until you are well and settled on your plateau, like you feel like you know what you can expect for the rest of the day - well at least as the basis or launch platform so to speak.
Then it probably gets tricky because taking an NBOMe is subject to tolerance, you will probably be cross-tolerant from the DOC already and you cannot redose and redose 25C until you are at the right level, as far as I'm aware. Because you build up resistance to any more rather rapidly. On the other hand you should lower both doses because of the synergy they will probably produce like 1+1=3.
You should have experience with the compounds separately first, and be prepared for increased physical side-effects just to be sure. Since NBOMe's can be stimulating, it can add up with a psychedelic amphetamine that - if I read the paper I checked out today correctly - produces vasoconstriction not directly from NE release from adrenoceptor terminals but indirectly through the potent serotonin agonism. The NBOMe also acts on serotonin so be careful and have a sedative on hand to calm things down, your nerves, your body.
I definitely needed my valium once with DOB, it was like my nerves got grated.
edit: after an hour?? The peaks will not coincide, it's too early by all accounts IMO because the DOC can take 1.5-2 hours to come up. At least. I recommend against trying to 'combine peaks', instead space it a little bit, it should still be awesome but more dynamic and you could integrate that better.
Then it probably gets tricky because taking an NBOMe is subject to tolerance, you will probably be cross-tolerant from the DOC already and you cannot redose and redose 25C until you are at the right level, as far as I'm aware. Because you build up resistance to any more rather rapidly. On the other hand you should lower both doses because of the synergy they will probably produce like 1+1=3.
You should have experience with the compounds separately first, and be prepared for increased physical side-effects just to be sure. Since NBOMe's can be stimulating, it can add up with a psychedelic amphetamine that - if I read the paper I checked out today correctly - produces vasoconstriction not directly from NE release from adrenoceptor terminals but indirectly through the potent serotonin agonism. The NBOMe also acts on serotonin so be careful and have a sedative on hand to calm things down, your nerves, your body.
I definitely needed my valium once with DOB, it was like my nerves got grated.
edit: after an hour?? The peaks will not coincide, it's too early by all accounts IMO because the DOC can take 1.5-2 hours to come up. At least. I recommend against trying to 'combine peaks', instead space it a little bit, it should still be awesome but more dynamic and you could integrate that better.
johntheman
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Yea I thought about the cross tolerance, but 25c seems to not have very much body load for me, and DOC i just simply love the body feeling. I'm just gonna go ahead and take the doc and see how it plays out. Both of these have really good anxiolytic properties for me, where as 2ce and 2cp increase my OCD and "everyone can read my mind" and eventually unwanted thoughts and actions become.