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Do your think this board is perceived as glamorizing the Abuse of psychedelics?

Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to respond to these posts too, and my last post was becoming lengthy.

25I_am_so_wonderfu said:
No not really. Not anymore than any other drug board. Im on 300 mgs of MXE right now and I can tell you for a fact I am not abusing it. It is an important tool and medicine for society. I plan on taking some 2mgs 25C in a few hours. Wish me luck :)
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25I_am_so_wonderfu said:
That's ridiculous. MXE has been used safely for years and years and years. It is an important TOOL, not a drug. If anything SRRI's are more deadly. I think if one were to replace their current SRRI regiment with an equivalent dose of MXE, they would be much better off and so would the world.
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Firstly, I want to say that I find it to be revolting and obnoxious that you would choose a thread like this to dick-size about your own blatant misadventures with 25C-NBOME + MXE. 2mg of 25C is absolutely not in any way a safe dose and could even be deadly for some. And I'm sure you know this very well, but for some reason you feel you need to come on here and rub that in everybody's faces.

In combination with 300mg of methoxetamine, which is already way too much for most people, such a dose could have easily been a total disaster. And I'm not just talking about you, I'm talking about those who may have read your bullshit and been influenced by it. We are trying to build a body of knowledge in order to encourage harm reduction for all our readers, and this is your contribution?

Please wind your neck in and give some consideration to the consequences that your actions will have on others. Your arrogance will get you nowhere.

Also, to address your comparison of MXE with SSRIs: MXE is relatively new in pharmacological terms, and certainly has not been around for "years and years and years". Its cousin - ketamine - has been around for ages and has been proven to be very safe in acute situations, but it has also proven to be quite harmful when taken on a regular basis. Just do a google search for ketamine + bladder.

Anything taken on a daily basis will be harmful, and it doesn't matter what that compound is. The whole reason why SSRIs are harmful is because of the fact that they are prescribed by quacks for daily use, and patients often end up taking them for years on end without a break. MXE is no different. Taken everyday, it will cause problems. To deny this fact in the face of all the insane manic ramblings to be found in the numerous and overflowing methoxetamine threads points to the fact that you are either blissfully unaware or in denial of the risks associated with its abuse.

J.Wallace said:
Let's face it...we're gonna fucking do what we wanna fucking do anyway, if we wanna do heroin we're gonna fucking do heroin, but Bluelight is here to show us "Hey...not all heroin is the same" and such, so now the person can do what they are so hell bent on doing in a safe manner as oppose to doing it ignorantly.
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Not necessarily true. There have been many different instances where someone has posted about something they intend to do, and I have given them the bare facts about the consequences of a hypothetical action, and they have subsequently decided against it. Many of us are here to learn from others, and if that means taking your ego out of the equation for a minute, then so be it.
 
thoughtsUnThought said:
You are hardcore man! ^^ a few days isn't much of a break if you're experiencing what you are confident to be kidney and bladder pains.

Or is that all a joke ? Either way I wish you the best potentials for health friend
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it is definitely a joke. dude thinks he is so incredibly clever and that he can help us all realize how wrong we are by being a sarcastic cunt.
 
If Bluelight didn't exist, drug-related deaths or hospitalizations would be more numerous, probably by a lot. That's harm reduction.

As others have said, many readers (probably most) can tell the difference between a responsible poster that knows what he/she is talking about and an attention-seeking prick fantasizing about impressing others with their formidable foolishness.
 
New question: how can we objectively define one persons input as drivel and another as worthy of nondrivelity...? :-\
And why would reading a post that's a confusing joke be more 'worth listening to' than another where someone is giving their input in the form of personal exps and constructive philosophical input....? Different perspectives I guess


Thanks for the productive input though guys.
 
* Become familiar with the general tone and tenor of each poster's posts.

* Be somewhat skeptical.

* Read other forums.

* Read scientific literature.

* Don't feed the trolls.
 
Well, I do already have a pretty extreme tolerance to the 25X's. I think I might have developed a problem with MXE. I ended up taking another 100 mg dose the day after my last dose when the bladder and kidney pain subsided. I took it before a family get together for early an early Christmas and I ended up in an M-Hole and may have made an ass of myself. I don't remember much of it to be honest, but at least my family didn't suspect I was on drugs. I think I'll have a break, at least until New Years when I'm planning on M-Holing with some of my fraternity brothers. They are MXE-virgins, but are excited to try to it since I have told them the experience is like LSD, even surpassing it in some aspects, since no one here has access to legit blotters.
 
Dissociatives are powerful anxiolytics, that is true. But overusing them tends to result in paranoia, recklessness, and selfish-bordering-on-psychopathic behavior. Please be careful.
 
I see no glamorizing. Pretty much anytime any poster says something about taking a massive dose of psyches, someone tells them how dumb that would be. Obviously if someone just sits there and reads about psychedelics all day, that could be glamorizing I guess. But they're doing that to themselves.

Would you rather us all be like fuck psyches they suck and they will cause you to have psychosis? We might as well be positive about the fun times we've had. If that's considered glamorizing, well I don't really give a shit then. Glamorize away.
 
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25i said:
I just see the great potential in this chemical to cure my anxiety, correct my brain and fix my life.
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While I disagree about the healing potential of dissociatives, this does bring up the most salient point so far as glamorization goes. Many people use psychedelics as therapeutic tools for promoting psychological and spiritual well-being. Since these drugs aren't harmless, some might consider this unnecessary glamorization, and it does cross over into encouraging drug use, but the fact of the matter is that these compounds do have the potential to bring about lasting positive changes from a single, or small number of, uses. I think our forum handles things appropriately given the risk:benefit situation of these particular drugs (use is not actively discouraged like in OD with strong stims/opiates, daily use is not condoned like it might be in CD, etc. etc.).
 
I'd say the litmus test is tolerance. If you have a severe, powerful tolerance to a drug then your use of it is over-regular & likely to become problematic. This varies from drug to drug, person to person, but if you can keep use of any compound infrequent enough to avoid tolerance, then you're on the right path.

My battles are constantly against tolerance, because tolerance breeds compulsion & compulsion breeds adiction.

But people are people, some can hack it, some cant. I've had my times where I've lost grip so I'm not talking from a higher pedestal. We're all in this together.
 
thoughtsUnThought said:
i have noticed a trend of some users (in my view) coming off as glamorizing their own abusive habits.
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Haven't read the whole thread; just dropping my opinion on the OP/topic.

I don't know about 'glamourizing', because to me it actually looks kind of sad.

However, I too have noticed a trend where strong psychedelics are treated as casual stimulants; quite possibly nullifying any potential benefit they might offer if the user does decide to abstain, lose tolerance, and have a therapeutic experience.

I guess I have a hard time relating to that type of psychedelic consumption because to me the experience was always too powerful to desire another one in the near future. Once a week frequency was the peak of my career and those 'runs' were intermittent. Also, because the experience so profoundly disrupted my normal, social, cognitive functions, I could never go out while tripping; I would actually have to make sure I wouldn't have any unexpected, awkward contact while I was tripping. It was different with things like 2C-B around a campfire with friends; we'd been together all weekend and comfortable with each other's grooves. To take a dose on my own, and then go to meet sober people would be a disaster.

I think the overconsumption I see on here makes me queasy because I picture myself doing that and the reactions I would have. The way psychedelics seem to affect heavy consumers is that of a 'stimulant with more psych factor', whereas I get plenty 'psych factor' from plain stimulants. I don't have that queasy feeling with overconsumption of non-psychedelics though (within reason).
 
pofacedhoe said:
yeah because people can type on that much MXE:\

such a troll

besides that any admission of drug use can be seen as glamorising it. its too subjective so why worry
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^ some people have vast tolerances built up on NMDA antagonists.
25I_am_so_wonderfu said:
since no one here has access to legit blotters.
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You mean no one where you are?

People here have access to legit blotter. ;)
 
the whole psychedelic culture, the idea that drugs can lead to enlightenment is glamorisation, it puts certain drugs on a pedestal.
that is not unique to psychedelics, many weed smoker refuse to accpet that there are consequences when you abuse it...

However, BL is useful and does serve its purpose in reducing harm IMO, its a good thing that endusers of RCs and psys can interact with people with a better understanding of chemistry and how the human body works....

this thread is a good example of how it works; some guy comes on banging on about how much MXE he's done and someone else pops up to point out that its a high dose...

just my 2c
 
totally agree - this man is speaking unversal maxims of truth.
Si Ingwe said:
I'd say the litmus test is tolerance. If you have a severe, powerful tolerance to a drug then your use of it is over-regular & likely to become problematic. This varies from drug to drug, person to person, but if you can keep use of any compound infrequent enough to avoid tolerance, then you're on the right path.

My battles are constantly against tolerance, because tolerance breeds compulsion & compulsion breeds adiction.

But people are people, some can hack it, some cant. I've had my times where I've lost grip so I'm not talking from a higher pedestal. We're all in this together.
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25I_am_so_wonderfu said:
That's ridiculous. MXE has been used safely for years and years and years. It is an important TOOL, not a drug. If anything SRRI's are more deadly. I think if one were to replace their current SRRI regiment with an equivalent dose of MXE, they would be much better off and so would the world.
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whats an SRRI? also how many years has MXE been used safely for? do tell
 
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