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Do you regret starting to do opiates?

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Popped into my head and was very surprised it has never been asked before. I know the first thing that probably pops into the head of everyone is "YES", but when I think more into it, i can't really say that's the case 8( so how bout' it?
 
The only thing I regret, is getting carried away with my use, so much so that I became addicted to them for almost 2 years of my teenage life. Spent many days withdrawing, OD'ing and blacking out around friends, making a fool of my self. Regardless, those highs were amazing. I'm just glad I'm not hooked on them anymore. Couldn't even tell you the last time I did an Opiate...perhaps 5 or 6 months ago? Woohoo!
 
i think everyone eventually regrets doing any drug they enjoyed with little side effects when they started, even weed and psychs. But until you experience the terrible side effects after long term use yourself, nothing an addict or former addict tells you will really make you decide to not use a drug if you really wanna try it just "once" yourself. And once you try it once, if you enjoy it you likely won't experience many negative side effects or non at all because a low dose will get you very high, but as you use it more and your tolerance increases the nasty side effects of most drugs start and then get worse and worse and worse. And only then once ur having a NASTY stim comedown where you want to kill yourself, or you are bed ridden during opiate withdrawal after long term heavy use, that you will finally understand what people warned you about...

Very few people can just keep a drug they have tried and really enjoyed just a once or twice a year thing. It's just not human nature, if you really enjoyed something, and haven't experienced any negatives, why not continue doing it?

I regret all my drug use now but oh well.

mrflowers00 said:
absolutely i would give up every good high because of all the deep lows
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yep, but it's to late once you have gotten to the point that you have terrible lows, because your brain is practically rewired and tends to "block" the lows once you a few weeks sober, and just have you remember the highs.
 
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Was just talking about this with the girlfriend...

And I can honestly say that... *deep breath*... no, I don't regret it. In fact, I think that getting into opiates has made me a better person in some respects.

I was once quite the materialistic person, and now, now I feel that I really do truly and honestly value my relationships with other people more so than material things. I think that pawning off half of my possessions has helped me in that, and it may sound ridiculous, but I look around my room now and there is not one thing I've pawned that I now regret pawning.

I pawned most of whatever those things were for dope, some to pay bills and whatever, but I know now that even if I had given them away, lost them in a flood or whatever, I would be none the worse off as they're only material things and I attached no real value to them at all. (It's also made me realize how much shit we have that we don't really need...)

I think getting into opiates has also taught me that the beat really does go on... there's always tomorrow, and there's always some hope. I know that I've mentioned this before and I don't want to go too much into it, but uh... we once had to come up with $1,000 -- in cash -- in just four hours or we would suffer some pretty serious consequences (arrested, lose our jobs, etc.) and it seemed impossible but we did it without having to do anything we'd regret such as pawning sentimental things or performing sexual favors, etc; we wheeled and dealed, schemed (without doing anyone dirty) and did some seedy things to raise the money, but we did it, dammit... and so now I don't worry about my bills as much anymore. I don't feel that same sense of anxiety about financial things... and I've learned a few new tricks on how to make money as well, of course. ;)

I also felt no real empathy toward addicts and drug users before I got into opiates; they were a group of people I just could not relate to, did not want to know or relate to, but that's no way to live. I'd like to learn empathy for all types of people, and I truly mean that as a future educator, someone who will hopefully one day be teaching a diverse group of students.

I can go on, but in all sincerity and honesty... no, I don't regret getting into opiates. I don't regret it at all.

EDIT: And also, getting into dope has tested my sense of right and wrong and what doing the right thing means. Not many people can say they've nursed a sizable heroin habit and kept their soul at the same time. I'd like to think that, two years later, and I have yet to lose mine. I don't steal, haven't pawned those items that I've attached sentimental value to, haven't performed sexual favors for drugs, haven't beat anyone or robbed anyone, haven't grimed anyone at all really. So, yeah, that's something I'm pretty proud of I guess... (shrugs)
 
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This is why I can count the number of times I've done opiates/benzos on my fingers. I rarely, rarely do them and when I do, it is low doses. I've done loads of psychedelics and had access to a variety of prescription/non prescription stimulants-I have ADD though I've never done/won't do cocaine or meth) but opiates/benzos have done a lot of personal damage to my family. Benzos killed my mother, opiates are why my cousin is homeless. A person could say that it was my family members own doing but I don't look at it that way. I look at the drugs as seductive and dangerous.

I'd love to eat some opiates right now, in fact, a buddy recently offered me some hydrocodone pills for free. I really, really want to take him up on that offer but I will force myself not to. To me, they are a sort of forbidden fruit like jones-in j said. I have seen them wreck lives before I ever tried them, before I even knew what drugs were really. I'd love to have another taste but from being on here for almost 3 years, lurking included, I don't see the point in playing with fire. I suppose I will live forever remembering how warm the drugs are. Sometimes my mind even tells me to give them a go again but I stop myself from that because I don't need to make excuses to do drugs I won't benefit from. With the stims in the past, they helped me keep my ADD under control. With the psychedelics, I learned many things about myself. But with those two classes of drugs, I just briefly escaped from my problems, only to wake up with the problems still there.

None of this is said to judge opiate or benzo or any other drug users, none at all. This is how I feel about things.
 
Hell.yea I regret it. I envy sober people that can get up and drive to work and hold a normal job and do normal things. I miss college, my audi, my condo and life before heroin. I want to quit so bad.
 
pbuilder said:
i think everyone eventually regrets doing any drug they enjoyed with little side effects when they started, even weed and psychs. But until you experience the terrible side effects after long term use yourself, nothing an addict or former addict tells you will really make you decide to not use a drug if you really wanna try it just "once" yourself. And once you try it once, if you enjoy it you likely won't experience many negative side effects or non at all because a low dose will get you very high, but as you use it more and your tolerance increases the nasty side effects of most drugs start and then get worse and worse and worse. And only then once ur having a NASTY stim comedown where you want to kill yourself, or you are bed ridden during opiate withdrawal after long term heavy use, that you will finally understand what people warned you about...

Very few people can just keep a drug they have tried and really enjoyed just a once or twice a year thing. It's just not human nature, if you really enjoyed something, and haven't experienced any negatives, why not continue doing it?

I regret all my drug use now but oh well.

yep, but it's to late once you have gotten to the point that you have terrible lows, because your brain is practically rewired and tends to "block" the lows once you a few weeks sober, and just have you remember the highs.
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well said
 
Yikes! Fourteen responses, and it looks like I am the only dissenting voice. I hope that someone chimes in soon to back me up, but I am not entirely naive, and I can definitely understand why so many of us here regret ever picking up opiates in the first place.

It's not something that I would ever recommend; I've said it before and I'll say it again, that I'm not a drug advocate of any kind, not for any drug and especially not for heroin.

But, for me, I just refuse to believe that it was all for nothing and nothing good came from my experience or my experiences, rather. It's part of my story, opiate abuse... it's part of my story and has contributed to making me who I am today.

In the words of the great Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (musician and my hero lol), "I'm proud of everything I've done. I'm most proud of my mistakes I think, probably, because my mistakes help me to learn and grow the most even more than the things that I achieve, that I'm agreeable with. My mistakes and my conflicts are the only way that I move forward..."

And, again, I can understand where others might think this Siddhartha-esque sort of belief or way of looking at it is somewhat naive, perhaps very naive. But, you know what, I'm not going to beat myself up over the things I've done, and I'm going to try and find that bit of good, that bit of worthwhileness in it, however bleak, dark, and hopeless the situation might seem.

So again, and I say this with sincerity, I don't regret it and I wish that there weren't so many others who do.
 
verso said:
In the words of the great Omar Rodriguez-Lopez (musician and my hero lol), "I'm proud of everything I've done. I'm most proud of my mistakes I think, probably, because my mistakes help me to learn and grow the most even more than the things that I achieve, that I'm agreeable with. My mistakes and my conflicts are the only way that I move forward..."
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Now this I can relate to. One positive thing that came from my Heroin abuse was that it sent me into a really dark place that I was able to overcome all on my own and that gave me a really strong sense of personal strength. Ive suffered from severe Depression, later transitioning into full blown Dysthymia, attempted suicide, and have just been totally miserable for a third of my life, I still havent given up on my life. Even though I dont see a single shed of light at the end of the tunnel, Im getting myself through this. Thats the one positive I gained from having a Heroin habit, and then 3 years later getting into a deep Meth habit as well. I feel that if I can get through two of the things that many people get stuck with for life, I have the will and strength to get through just about anything.

For the record, my Heroin and later Opiate abuse was a big factor into sending me into this miserable state of mind which is basically the reason I regret ever touching them. But hey, we live and we learn.
 
verso said:
But, for me, I just refuse to believe that it was all for nothing and nothing good came from my experience or my experiences, rather. It's part of my story, opiate abuse... it's part of my story and has contributed to making me who I am today.
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Agreed.

I've been in some trouble here and there, but I have probably lived a life about ten times more exciting than most people I know.

You gotta live life, and sometimes it will sink to incredible lows, but the overall goal is to enjoy your life and be content.

And who can't be content after a wide-open spree hanging out with their favorite opiate/opioids?
 
verso said:
Was just talking about this with the girlfriend...

And I can honestly say that... *deep breath*... no, I don't regret it. In fact, I think that getting into opiates has made me a better person in some respects.

I was once quite the materialistic person, and now, now I feel that I really do truly and honestly value my relationships with other people more so than material things. I think that pawning off half of my possessions has helped me in that, and it may sound ridiculous, but I look around my room now and there is not one thing I've pawned that I now regret pawning.

I pawned most of whatever those things were for dope, some to pay bills and whatever, but I know now that even if I had given them away, lost them in a flood or whatever, I would be none the worse off as they're only material things and I attached no real value to them at all. (It's also made me realize how much shit we have that we don't really need...)

I think getting into opiates has also taught me that the beat really does go on... there's always tomorrow, and there's always some hope. I know that I've mentioned this before and I don't want to go too much into it, but uh... we once had to come up with $1,000 -- in cash -- in just four hours or we would suffer some pretty serious consequences (arrested, lose our jobs, etc.) and it seemed impossible but we did it without having to do anything we'd regret such as pawning sentimental things or performing sexual favors, etc; we wheeled and dealed, schemed (without doing anyone dirty) and did some seedy things to raise the money, but we did it, dammit... and so now I don't worry about my bills as much anymore. I don't feel that same sense of anxiety about financial things... and I've learned a few new tricks on how to make money as well, of course. ;)

I also felt no real empathy toward addicts and drug users before I got into opiates; they were a group of people I just could not relate to, did not want to know or relate to, but that's no way to live. I'd like to learn empathy for all types of people, and I truly mean that as a future educator, someone who will hopefully one day be teaching a diverse group of students.

I can go on, but in all sincerity and honesty... no, I don't regret getting into opiates. I don't regret it at all.

EDIT: And also, getting into dope has tested my sense of right and wrong and what doing the right thing means. Not many people can say they've nursed a sizable heroin habit and kept their soul at the same time. I'd like to think that, two years later, and I have yet to lose mine. I don't steal, haven't pawned those items that I've attached sentimental value to, haven't performed sexual favors for drugs, haven't beat anyone or robbed anyone, haven't grimed anyone at all really. So, yeah, that's something I'm pretty proud of I guess... (shrugs)
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Got me curious with the thousand dollars in four hour story haha. Not that i expect you to disclose how you did it here obviously. Buy damn thats a lot fast. My best scam id make $100-200 an hour. Not doing anything TOO illegal but definately morally wrong lol. But i couldnt bring myself to do it again i dont think

In other news-- still high on mxe and supposed to be at work in 2 hours... this shit better wear off soon -____-
 
No. Regrets are not a thing I really partake in anyway, but even then, I don't see much negative in my opioid use at present. I have once had an opioid problem, when I was prescribed tramadol for 3 months and withdrew (also joint withdrawal from benzos). After that I've always used opioids sporadically; on average, once every 2-4 months. Even after trying intravenous morphine (which was a big threshold for me) I haven't felt any desire to use opioids more often, even if they're constantly available at reasonable prices.

I love the effect from opioids as well (except buprenorphine) but I'm not concerned that my pattern of use will change dramatically.
 
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