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Do you re-dose? And why?

I used to redose all the time, reason I stopped was because I abused the crap outta it and read here that redosing is what can lead to neurotoxicity,worse hangover, more damage etc...

Noticed I wasn't rolling as hard and the rolls weren't going as long either. I can say with a redose the hangover is worse but I'll take it to roll an extra 2 or 3 hours. Plus I like to roll hard and the more I end up taking I hallucinate which is something I enjoy quite a bit.
 
Folley said:
MDA more stimulating than methylone though? How..? All the times I've taken tested MDA I get extremely mongy.
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Crystal methylone wasn't stimulating to me until the comedown and even then, it was only stimulating if I went on a bender.

I've had some bad batch methylone though that was stimulated hell all the way around.

MDA is stoning to me but its still speedy. I am more likely to dance on MDA than I am on MDMA but maybe its dose related?
 
Rather than redosing, I prefer to take my MDMA with a small dose of LSD. I find that a few hours of light tripping after my roll ends is perfect to keep me dancing, plus I get some immediate introspection about my MDMA experience.
 
afterlyfestyle said:
@Badrobot: I can't say I've heard that method! That would be a really nice and gentle come up for you?
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I wouldn't call the come-up gentle, blowing up comes with the territory with MDMA(and besides, rushing out of your mind is hella fun), but it's not so intense that i'm floored. The 60 mg redose mostly prolongs the roll by about 2 hours(so I peak for around 4 hours and roll for about 6 total, with the seventh hour still marked by strong effects). It might do something to increase the intensity a bit, but I haven't really noticed that. Honestly, by the time I take the booster i'm already so munted and my eyes wiggle so hard that It'd be hard to notice subtle increases in intensity.

It's strange to me that so many people find MDMA lacks stimulation. I get very hyper and stimulated on pure MDMA, talking people's ears off, unable to stop moving my body to the music(actually walking around half dancing), become very fidgety on the come up etc. Heck, I start dancing involuntarily less than 10 mins after I drop(then again, I come up absurdly fast so I might not be the best example).

Forgot to mention that if there's 2CB available I skip the booster and just dose a moderate amount of it when I can feel the peak starting to fade. I imagine it's healthier in terms of neurotoxicity, prolongs the roll more than an MD booster and it's just absurdly fun and euphoric.
 
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my o my how the scene has changed. this thread 10 yrs ago and majority of posts accumulated would have been laughed out of town.

your safest bet is to not do drugs at all.

be lame and boring and live until 110.
 
laugh said:
my o my how the scene has changed. this thread 10 yrs ago and majority of posts accumulated would have been laughed out of town.

your safest bet is to not do drugs at all.

be lame and boring and live until 110.
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So if we don't take 10 doses a night after double dropping we're lame and boring? did I use that logic correctly?
 
laugh said:
my o my how the scene has changed. this thread 10 yrs ago and majority of posts accumulated would have been laughed out of town.

your safest bet is to not do drugs at all.

be lame and boring and live until 110.
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This is a harm reduction forum, not a go hard or go home forum.

You can still have plenty of fun with drugs without going ridiculously overboard.

Not only that but in the case of empathogens, you get greatly diminishing returns when you continually redose but a worse crash. Where is the logic in that?
 
Inb4 response of 40 dosages of 5mg, I think what Laugh means is it was always option A back in the day (lol rhyme), I've only tried option B a couple times this year because I was hesitant at first to try it/cbf with the extra steps.


Laugh, serious, in your opinion, why do you think option B has surfaced?
 
^ He probably means back in the day they didn't have an "Option A" or "Option B"... they just fucking took some pills and got high :\



in the end, isn't that what we all want to do anyways? Obviously it's still best to use common sense and "rules" can help reinforce that when you're off your tits and rubbing your body onto a pole. But like Captain Jack Sparrow said..

"The Pirates Code isn't a set of rules. More like guidelines..."
 
Okay but 10 years ago?

That's when I got into the scene and there were already pretty well-established guidelines for rolling.

Maybe I just lucked out with my group of friends.

Not that it did me any good to have such experienced friends because I didn't listen to them anyway :p
 
What are we redosing and how often? If I'm in party mode 20 mg 2cb followed a bit later by another 20 mg. I used to add tiny 10 mg doses of meth but that shit is fucked so staying away. Dose 20 mg MPA with the 2nd B for a little energy does fuck all else. Maybe something like 4 HO MET may come into it perhaps a random 120 mg MDMA cap from time to time if free. MXE and then home for sleepers and rest. I guess that is a little over the top but it'd be a very rare occasion and a band/dj whatever I was really excited about.
 
Mate there is usually 1 MDMA 120mg cap in there most big nights, gifts if you will. I'm not totally anti MDMA just not my fav and like 1 cap is pretty much it for me probably halfway down the 2cb doses lol. That may lead to me having another cap a at some point if I'm really messed up or more often I dose 3/4 of the cap and take a little pinch an hour later. :) So roughly 80 mg followed by a 40 mg chaser if you will an hour later. WHy the boster I find 80 mg gets me to a nice place and the 40 mg an hour later just extends the feeling a little longer, that or it's just a habit of some kind. Why take the capsule: they are free I know they are tested and I know they are good quality. If you had some random stuff and your mates wanted to try it well why not and sometimes people are nice back :).
 
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Sorry if that came off sounding rude, it wasn't my intention at all. I inferred that you were confused about what the thread was about. I should go to bed LOL!
 
I usually redose twice with each dose being 100mg. I realize the diminishing returns but when I'm in the moment I find it hard to let it go.

I find the booster soon after initial dose mentioned here interesting. I plan on trying that.
 
My plan for anyone who cares:
Drop 1 x 200-220mg pill
-Come up really fucking hard-
1 hour later, drop another 1/2 - 1 pill
-Peak my nuts off for hours and be royally fucked-
-Come down smoothly and go to bed (possibly tripping ball-sack)

HR note - I leave 3-4 months inbetween rolls and with this method, I don't seem to get a comedown, just a lovely afterglow. It's all about the wait!
 
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