Ketamine Do you grind your ketamine for Insufflation?

[RedZarth]

Hey, I've been using ketamine, largely low-dose with a partner for the last few years, and more recently in medium doses for some psychological exploration. I know a few other people who use it, but where I am it's a rare substance and there's very little shared knowledge. One thing I have heard from several people locally though is that the quality of the substances effect is tied largely to how fine a grain it is when you snort it.

When I get my stuff (from the dark web, usually from Europe) sometimes it's very fine, sometimes it's more of a table-salt consistency (the products are always described as 'sugar' though). Recently I got a new batch in that was very chunky and tried grinding some up with a mortar and pestle into a very fine powder and... it had zero effect. I had to do 3x the amount I would normally need to to have minor effects. So I tried the chunky crystally powder on its own and it was more effective (though still pretty disappointing, with weaker effects, harsher on the sinuses, and a strangely different taste).

It seems like I got a lousy batch (it was from a new source), but I was surprised that grinding it seemed to make it either inert or not absorbable. I've also received 'pins' in the past from a vendor by accident that I still haven't touched because I didn't know what to do with them. It seemed like the long thin crystals would not be 'snortable' yet reading on here it seems like that's not the case.

So before I potentially ruin more of my supplies here I wanted to ask. What's the consensus for snorting, should it be a fine powder? Do pins and chunky crystals work? Is one way more efficient?

Thanks

 

[emkee_reinvented]

The finer the better, slowly levelling it with a knife & chop, chop, chop,
On something smooth, i would not advise something white.
Something that s not plastic, static electrics preventive.

Someone here must know the optimal way of vacuuming it up.
As that s crucial to, for optimum results.

And don t know your tolerance experience, but a small line is a lot.
1/ 2 bumps work, its not like Coke lines. The feeling neither way better.

K is imo the nicest dissociative.

 

[LucidSDreamr]

Grinding it has no effect on the crystal structure.

My guess is that when you grinded it you inhaled it much more and it drained down into your gut much easier where the bioavailability is super poor.

The bigger particles got trapped in your nasal cavity where the bioavailability is much higher.

That’s my guess

 

[RedZarth]

The finer the better, slowly levelling it with a knife & chop, chop, chop,
On something smooth, i would not advise something white.
Something that s not plastic, static electrics preventive.

Someone here must know the optimal way of vacuuming it up.
As that s crucial to, for optimum results.

And don t know your tolerance experience, but a small line is a lot.
1/ 2 bumps work, its not like Coke lines. The feeling neither way better.

K is imo the nicest dissociative.

Thanks. I don't have coke experience, and usually measure by weight. 30-40mg is a light but very pleasant dose for me (and what I aim for when doing with a partner) when it's a good batch. 80-90mg is quite high for me and can sometimes be more of a journey than I expect. When I read people talking about 300 mg dose I have to wonder if I'm just getting higher quality stuff (in particular since when I occasionally get a weird batch like this recent one from a new vendor it does require more and the effect is rougher, much less harmonious).

I often use a "sniffer bullet", sold online as a spice dispenser. It consistently doses 8-10mg with each twist of the lever.

I think Lucid is right, it was probably so fine that it didn't stick in my sinuses. I think I'll avoid mortar and pestle in the future aiming for a fine grain and not a powder.

 

[canadianpeduser]

Last time I had good K; the consistency was like somewhere between sugar and crushed up crystal meth. Oddly shaped uneven crystalline type of powder: and I never busted it up anymore than I had it. Little bit chunky im sure is fine. I didn’t even think of the possibility of sniffing it too hard and getting it to the stomach. But I guess that’s probably possible too. Jealous a little since I haven’t had K in 4-5 years now