Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good and a happy fault and necessary to God?

[Gnostic Bishop]

Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good and a happy fault and necessary to God?

As a Gnostic Christian, I tend to disagree with most of the Judeo-Christian ideology, while cherry picking the good Jesus sayings that were not lost, thanks to the hiding of ancient Judeo Christian Gnostic text.

As a naturalist esoteric ecumenist, and moralist, I agree with Christians who see the goodness in sin/evil.

It is demonstrably necessary to nature, evolution and God.

Without the evils in our evolution, we would go extinct.

Our many gods and their plans would die along with us.

Is that why Satan is sent to deceive Eve?

Or was that wonderful evil woman in charge all along?

She brings the law by being our eternal victim.

Rom. 4.15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good and a happy fault and necessary to God?

As a Gnostic Christian, I tend to disagree with most of the Judeo-Christian ideology, while cherry picking the good Jesus sayings that were not lost, thanks to the hiding of ancient Judeo Christian Gnostic text.

But strangely, here, I agree with Christians.

As a naturalist esoteric ecumenist, and moralist, I agree with Christians who see the goodness in sin/evil.

It is demonstrably necessary to nature, evolution and God.

Without the evils in our evolution, we would go extinct.

Our many gods and their plans would die along with us.

Is that why Satan is sent to deceive Eve?

Or was that wonderful evil woman in charge all along?

She brings the law by being our eternal victim.

Rom. 4.15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

For those who do not visit the religious site, crime/evil, in a real sense, is good.

Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good and a happy fault and necessary to God?

As a Gnostic Christian, I tend to disagree with most of the Judeo-Christian ideology, while cherry picking the good Jesus sayings that were not lost, thanks to the hiding of ancient Judeo Christian Gnostic text.

But strangely, in this I agree with Christians.

As a naturalist esoteric ecumenist, and moralist, I agree with Christians who see the goodness in sin/evil.

It is demonstrably necessary to nature, evolution and God.

Without the evils in our evolution, we would go extinct.

Our many Gods and their plans would die along with us.

Is that why Satan is sent to deceive Eve?

Or was that wonderful evil woman in charge all along?

She brings the law by being our eternal victim.

Rom. 4.15
Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Regards
DL

 

[PtahTek]

sin is good

Always heard sin is death "bad" by all churches i visited but then to the sane death is just as ok as life. not sure....

Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression

this seems to indicate that man created this idea of being bad or good through confusion and overthinking.
i get that we create/define all our issues but whys it always gotta be good or evil? i know its heresy but im tired of being burned to promote the well neing of the faithful!
lol
good to see ya, bishop. keepin it real i see.
peace

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Always heard sin is death "bad" by all churches i visited but then to the sane death is just as ok as life. not sure....

Protestants might not agree, depending on how they read their Founder.

Martin Luther
“Be a sinner and sin strongly, but more strongly have faith and rejoice in Christ.”

this seems to indicate that man created this idea of being bad or good through confusion and overthinking.

I see it more as recognizing the laws of nature and mimicking them in religions.

Our selfish gene makes us perfect mimics. In a sense too perfect as chimps are better at out of the box thinking than we are because we are more insecure and adhere to rules too much in some ways.

I see logic, reason and wisdom in the ancients that was hidden by stupid people believing in the supernatural.

That screw everything up and ushered in the Dark Ages that still plagues religions today.

i get that we create/define all our issues but whys it always gotta be good or evil?

In a dualistic universe, what is more important to any life?

Our first thoughts and instincts, along with our DNA tells us to default to good and as we learn what that is, we also create hate biases that jeopardize that which we love.

Love and hate which is synonymous with good and evil provide the motivators for us to keep living.

That is why hate is so important and is a small part of the overall love we naturally default to.

I am real. So are you. Keep fighting evil my friend.

Regards
DL

 

[deficiT]

CEPS ------> P + S

 

[Brendan12]

Good and evil in fiction.. we are addicted..

Usually these forces are greater than evolution/change itself..

 

[Brendan12]

The people pulling the strings are the real culprits in Good and Evil..

In good, merit.

In evil, control..turning away from what is wholesome and rich.

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Good and evil in fiction.. we are addicted..

Usually these forces are greater than evolution/change itself..

You could have addressed the question.

I guess it was above your pay grade.

Regards
DL

 

[alasdairm]

I guess it was above your pay grade.

are your (not very) thinly-veiled insults really contributing to the discussion?

Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good and a happy fault and necessary to God?

we did this before: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

i don't believe you were able to demonstrate, in that thread, that jesus says sinning is good.

alasdair

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

are your (not very) thinly-veiled insults really contributing to the discussion?



we did this before: Sinning, as Jesus and the church say, is good. Turn or burn Christians.

i don't believe you were able to demonstrate, in that thread, that jesus says sinning is good.

alasdair

I do not need to, as Christians sing that at Easter all the time.

No one has ever demonstrated that the half breed chimera god, Jesus, even existed.

I have demonstrated that nature sees sin/evil as good.

Why bother with fantasy when reality and nature explains all things?

Regards
DL

 

[alasdairm]

I have demonstrated that nature sees sin/evil as good.

you didn't ask about nature. you wrote:

Do you agree with Christians, that sin is good

i'm not sure why you rehashed this particular question but i still find your arguments and statements rather muddled.

alasdair

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Why do I even look at this subforum?

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

you didn't ask about nature. you wrote:



i'm not sure why you rehashed this particular question but i still find your arguments and statements rather muddled.

alasdair

I don't think I can be blamed for your mudlines.

You might show where the muddle was.

Meanwhile, just for thoughts.

Are police handy? Where there are rights and freedoms, I would say, for sure.

If there was no recognized crime/sin or law against it, would we have police, or would we have to rely on and live in fear of vigilantes?

Regards
DL

 

[alasdairm]

crime and sin are two different things.

you claim that jesus/christians say sin is good.

then you ask whether police are handy.

that's why i think your argument is muddled.

you were unable to show me, in the other thread, where jesus said sin is good. and you've not done it here either.

alasdair

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

crime and sin are two different things.

Both create victims and if you cannot see the analogy, you are to specific with language.

Do not make foolish statements without your argument, although I am getting used to your reverse onuses.

you claim that jesus/christians say sin is good. you were unable to show me, in the other thread, where jesus said sin is good. and you've not done it here either.

Get the quote on Jesus. I do not trust you.

I did say Christians believe it and sing of it. Jesus??

then you ask whether police are handy.

Guilty.

that's why i think your argument is muddled.

I do not see it.

How does a question muddle?

It either has an answer or not.

What is it that you do not understand about the theory?

Regards
DL

 

[alasdairm]

Get the quote on Jesus. I do not trust you.

what are you talking about?

you are the one making the claim. the onus is on you to back it up. as you can't or won't, i just draw the obvious conclusion.

I do not see it.

indeed.

alasdair

 

[Foreigner]

Every protagonist needs an antagonist to arrive at full realization.

Even natural selection requires antagonistic pressures to hone evolution.

Adam and Eve were in bliss but they were ignorant. Humanity will one day have to learn how to live with its most dangerous knowledge and not self-destruct all the time. Maybe then we will understand God.

 

[December Flower]

Why bother with fantasy when reality and nature explains all things?

Regards
DL

First off: this thread - big cringe.

Second: Riddle me this, answerman: What is the origin of the universe? Can we travel backwards in time? Where is antimatter? What is the cure for cancer? What makes us dream? What's the pattern of prime numbers? Is our reality the only reality? Is our universe the only universe? What is consciousness? Will we ever know everything? Are we in a dream? What happens after we die? Do morphogenetics fields really exist?

Explains all things? Humbug!

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

Sin just literally means “off the mark” or “off target”. It’s neither good nor bad, it’s just an error message to the universe, like one over zero. It just doesn’t compute. No good versus evil, just a cosmic error message.

It has a punishment and thus cannot be seen as good, unless you like to be punished.

The punishers do not get the message you do and they do the harm.

Try to prevent the harm by using their terms and playing in their field.

Otherwise, like her, you just end in masturbation and sin instead of real sex.

Regards
DL