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Do psychadelics make anyone else cry really hard?

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I used to take psychs all the time from age 16 to about three months ago. However I took a break of a few months because I felt I was just not ready to handle them. After breaking through hard on DMT, and breaking down crying for about 3 days, they started to just make me lose control and basically have panic attacks.

The other day I was with my girl-friend and I took a small dose of 4-aco-dmt and for a good hour I was bawling to the point where I could barely breathe or stop crying. I'm not sad about anything in particular, it's just I will become stuck in thinking of sad things that have happened in my life and other sad things that are going on in the world. I think about dying and my health and the surgeries and tests I"ve had in the past couple years and I'll begin to convince myself that there is probably something very wrong with me and little things like back-aches will make me worry.

I also do a lot of methoxetamine now-days and sometimes the same thing will happen, more often at higher dissociating doses. I will lose control of my emotions and cry until I finally calm myself, often in front of my girlfriend with whom I live. She is beginning to see me as a drug addict because I always freak out yet continue to take this drug. She wants to support me but it's obviously hard when I have control of my stash and I tell her to encourage me to do other things and not to get mad at me when she founds out I'm high but I guess some times she can't help but be upset with me and sometimes that will set me off into a crying spell and it's embarrassing to break down in front of her like that.

Anyway I will quit rambling;

I was just curious as to whether anyone else experiences intense crying on psychadelics and/or methoxetamine/other dissociatives. Will I ever be able to enjoy them like I used to? Is this just a phase or have I just lost the euphoric positive psychadelic energy I used to get?
 
Sounds like it's break time man. Clearly your trips are stuck in a pattern and it's effecting your sober life negatively so I'd hold off on tripping until it really feels right ya know? Just my opinion
 
I agree.

There's probably some subconscious material you need to resolve. If you want to keep using drugs without taking a break, maybe try MDMA with theraputic intent? It could bring out whatever's happening. Light dose to avoid being overwhelmed. Having an actual therapist would be ideal, but it's not likely.
 
mxeman, for a while back when I was doing lots of acid I would constantly feel this incredibly deep sadness. It would often leave me incapacitated or uncontrollably sobbing.
I did not understand it then, but it's been a few years, and I've realized a few things, and now it makes sense.
I didn't have any problems at the time. I wasn't sad about anything in particular.
Still, even though I thought I was happy, I was not. I wasn't even myself really. Things were weird, and I was not alright.
(I guess it's some stuff I don't much feel like expounding on presently.)
This is what really caused my sadness; it just broke through into my consciousness when I was hallucinating.
I don't know if it's the case for you at all, but this is just my experience.
 
When I was on ayahuasca, suddenly all of the "cracks" in my own psychology became clear to me. All of the ways in which I was a broken soul.

I knew exactly what I wanted out of life. I wanted just one thing. And I could easily get it, because I knew exactly HOW to get it! But I had so many other impure desires, and temptations, that distracted me so ceaselessly and mercilessly from the one thing that I truly wanted, that I was continuously being pulled in opposite directions and torn to shreds by my own inner conflicts!

And for this, I wept deeply. It was a wonderful and cathartic experience.
 
I agree with above posters that your probably stuck in a cycle at the moment. Psychs have a habit of reflecting your sober life of current rather well, and as you probably know things can snow ball when and after taking them.

Someone suggested MDMA and I agree if you can get a hold of the goods. My outlook on and after it is, seeing you feel so wonderful and positive on it, why cant these views and feelings extend into your normal life as well. I know of course the MDMA makes your serotonin switch to rapid fire, but it doesnt mean these feelings have to vanish as soon as you come down. If you can feel it at all its possible to feel all the time, (within reason of course).

Drugs are taken for a variety of reasons, but one of the leading reasons is for a "nirvana" of sorts. Of course its chemicals doing this to your brain, but for me it shouldnt just end there, try to remember your positive outlooks whilst on drugs when your sober and down. For me it can really help.

But for the heavier psychs I suggest until your more positive it wont be good news to keep doing them. They reveal the best and the worst it seems.

Good luck mate, peace.
 
The first time I tried 4-aco-dmt, it was a pretty high dose, and it seemed that the bodies of my tripping partners and I decided to expel a lot of bodily fluids. During the come up, one friend kept having his nose run like crazy. But we were all victim to crying, although none of us were particularly sad. If anything, it was the opposite: we were very euphoric, and laughing as tears streamed down our faces.

Otherwise I have to agree with what everyone above me said. Take some time off of the drugs to step back and take a look at your life. Together with your girlfriend, you should try and notice the little things that really aren't so little; that are affecting your life in a big way. A few small improvements could lead to a much better life outlook.

I hope you everything works out and you get that euphoria back.
 
last time i cried was after taking a large does of mxe haven't cried like it for years . never found psychedelics made me cry but after using stems for a few days i normally end up fighting back the tears for some reason or another . but that mxe one really drained me to the point i just could not get up after regaining some control of myself just before passing out drained when i woke up i shit myself first time iv freaked out from doing that guess i realised how close i was to o.d
 
TheAppleCore said:
When I was on ayahuasca, suddenly all of the "cracks" in my own psychology became clear to me. All of the ways in which I was a broken soul.

I knew exactly what I wanted out of life. I wanted just one thing. And I could easily get it, because I knew exactly HOW to get it! But I had so many other impure desires, and temptations, that distracted me so ceaselessly and mercilessly from the one thing that I truly wanted, that I was continuously being pulled in opposite directions and torn to shreds by my own inner conflicts!

And for this, I wept deeply. It was a wonderful and cathartic experience.
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I can relate to this & I think it's a good response to the OP
 
take a break imo, when i start using psychs more frequently i tend to cry at times during trips doesnt matter what the chemical is either ime. when i stop using frequently ill go back to normal and im able to trip without getting too emotional a good 5 to 10 trips and when i do get emotional i dont put much thought into it because it makes it harder for me to get over the experience and enjoy other things ime. the first time it happened to me was with lsd i was looking back to the trip everyday for a good 8-10 months and i finally reached a point where i had to put that behind me in order to enjoy life again
 
I cried my eyes out while extremely dissociated on a combo of hawaiian cubensis and some good weed, telling my boyfriend about how I don't want to loose any of my close family and friends, and how upset I'd be if I did, and how I should spend more time with my family blah blah. Psychs make me realize how fucking lucky I am to have all the shit that I do in life and that I should sit back and appreciate these things more often and work on the places in my life that aren't growing as well as other places, just like a garden, I suppose you could say.
 
TheAppleCore said:
When I was on ayahuasca, suddenly all of the "cracks" in my own psychology became clear to me. All of the ways in which I was a broken soul.

I knew exactly what I wanted out of life. I wanted just one thing. And I could easily get it, because I knew exactly HOW to get it! But I had so many other impure desires, and temptations, that distracted me so ceaselessly and mercilessly from the one thing that I truly wanted, that I was continuously being pulled in opposite directions and torn to shreds by my own inner conflicts!

And for this, I wept deeply. It was a wonderful and cathartic experience.
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While I never overtly cry, sometimes I felt kinda like I wanted to on 4-aco. Anyway, I was responding to you specifically 'cause the same thing happened to me a while back! Then when my efforts to do the one thing I had to do start myself on the road to health and happiness refused to be accomplished, I went back to all my impurity and distraction to cope. Leaving me in the predicament I now find myself in, I'll probably trip on something or another soon to understand more deeply whatever course of action I decide on.
 
atara said:
It might help to read something like a Vonnegut novel if you've awarded yourself a thoroughly depressing worldview, or listen to This is Water -- part 1, part 2.
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An EXCELLENT recommendation, if I do say so myself! Vonnegut (who invented me Dwayne Hoover) can be VERY therapeutic! Check out the film version of Breakfast of Champions, actually really good (despite what clueless naysayers may kvetch) not to mention very trippy. When you watch it tripping you notice all sorts of implications and messages that are hard to get straight, moreso than most other films, seriously. Lots of great off the hook fall on the floor funny performances by major stars you'll be surprised to see in such a non-mainstream thing. Extremely cathartic too. I always feel better about life in general after seeing that again. Still available online for purchase.
 
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The only few times I really cried in recent years was on mushroom trips. Once or twice, just in absolute awe of the beauty of something I was in a trance staring at I just broke down into floods of tears. Mushrooms can be like that though. Another time I looked at a pic of my gf on my phone and just looking at her smiling back at me I knew how lucky I was to have her. Even though things like this should be obvious sometimes it takes a good psychedelic trip to really make the penny drop!
 
Sometimes I get this feeling that I pissed myself and everyone is really embarrassed for me, then I realise I obviously haven't pissed myself. Its very strange but there you go
 
I think it's interesting OP that you've been having trouble with psychs only recently, say like when you started using MXE?
I mean it does sound like you have an addicition and it is effecting your sober life and your relationship. The funny thing about the brain with addiction, at least with opiates and nicotine and the really heavy addictions, is that the brain is reprogrammed to actually think it's going to die if it doesn't get the substance of addiction. I'm just speculating but I think it's quite possible that your conscious mind is fraught with addiction and therefore unnatural confusion, but your true self down in your subconscious realises how much your addiction has taken over and basically is mourning the loss of the old you.
At any rate something is coming from your subconscious, you need to get resolve the issue before you use anymore psychs, but if I were you I would cut out the use of the MXE as soon as possible, overcome your addiction and maybe try some psychs after that if you feel comfortable.
 
nearjat said:
Sounds like it's break time man. Clearly your trips are stuck in a pattern and it's effecting your sober life negatively so I'd hold off on tripping until it really feels right ya know? Just my opinion
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Best advice in this thread! (not that the rest of the advice is useless, or anything ;))

it´s time for a break! you don´t say how old you are, and so you don´t say how long you have been taking a lot of psychedelics, but the gist that I get from what you are writting, is that you need a break! Just don´t take any psy´s for a couple of months at least, and you will have another perspective on it all.

I tell you, the drugs aren´t running nowhere!! they are still going to be there in a couple of months.....or years.....down the road. And having a break, finding yourself again, experiencing being sober, will just make taking that psychedelic again so much better.

You really got to ask your self, why are you so busy getting fucked?

And by the way, no, I never ever cried on psychedelics.
 
And yes, you will be able to enjoy them again, it´s all up to the way you use them.

edt: sorry folks, I´m drunk and bored.....
 
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