Do I really need suboxone anymore? It can't get worse than this!

[Frosta]

Hello, I've been IVing opiates for about a year now, got up to around 400mgs of morphine/90mgs of hydropmorph a day. I went on suboxone about 6 days ago and it BARELY helped. It basically made withdrawal JUST livable. I started off at 2 mgs, didn't realize I went into precipitated withdrawal, took more, 8 mgs altogether, and was sick for 2 days. After that, I was at 4mgs for 2 days, no sleep, no food except for chugging ensure to try to get some vitamins down. I've got nasty arthritis and the rebound pain/RLS kept me up, tried to use ibuprofen but it was useless. Because I was hurting, but could still deal with it, I dropped down to 2 mgs already, I'm on day 6, and the worst seems to be over. Today, I'm skipping a day because I have no money.

Do I really need it anymore? If I discontinue is it going to be worse than what I've already gone through? Does the bupe completely take over and become the "new opiate" hence more withdrawal if I discontinue? It seems to me like the worst is over, and I REALLY don't want to be dependant on any opiates anyore. I live in canada, so I was thinking maybe if it gets bad after a couple days, just grab some T1s, do a couple extractions for the hard days and maybe that'll help but I don't even want to do that. I'm just so sick of this SHIT! I want to have normal endorphins again! I want to be able to walk at my normal pace again. Be able to sleep in the same bed as my boyfriend without kicking the shit out of the sheets lol.

Also, I had some seroquel at my disposal, and it didn't even knock me out, I took 40mgs, 50 and under is supposed to be the right dose for sleeping right? Well, I combined that with some pretty potent pot and I just laid there.

 

[i against i]

50mg isn't a lot of seroquel at all. i've been prescribed up to 300mg for sleep and had it not help. during withdrawal from heroin (much more minor than yours) 50mg would do nothing, 300mg barely anything.

 

[ErikTheRed]

Suboxone should remove all physical WD symptoms. It sounds like you took it too early, and then on the later days you didn't take enough to cover all the symptoms. When I came off a big heroin habit, I had to take 8mg+/day to feel normal. But, I was on a maintenance program, it sounds like you want to get off Subs asap. It's good that you did a quick taper with the Subs, the longer you stay on them, the words the WD's will be. However, I doubt your WD's are over. From my experience it can take 2-3 days to feel the worst of Sub WD's, because of their long half life.

 

[xburtonchic]

How soon after your last dose did you begin the Suboxone which caused you to go into precip withdrawal?

 

[Frosta]

How soon after your last dose did you begin the Suboxone which caused you to go into precip withdrawal?

Yeah....that was completely my stupidity, I didn't have a normal dose 24 hours before the suboxone, but 4 hours before I was going to see the doctor, I did a "wash", which had like maybe 40-50mgs of morphine in it tops. I thought I could get away with it because the first time I was on suboxone, I did the same thing, except it was with hydromorphone contin.
My doc fucked up the script, was supposed to go until Monday, only went until Sunday,(When she's not working of course) so I caved in because I wanted sleep so bad. Today is day 2 without suboxone, and without dope as well and so far i'm alright. Some aches in the legs but I feel fine. If I do have sweats I can't tell because it's SO HOT HERE NOW UHG. I think I've got enough mental power now that the worst is over, I got enough sleep to last me another 6 days without if I have to haha.

 

[bennyblancobronx]

I am on subs for life,currently 32mg daily and I'm at peace with it as it has saved my life literally

 

[ArtVandalay]

Wow, 32mg is a lot. I concur about it being a life saver and at peace with it.

 

[Vaya]

I think that this thread would better be addressed in Other Drugs

TDS>>>OD

~ Vaya