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Do fiends ruin the opiate economy for everyone else?

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Vaportrails

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I was thinking about it the other day. I've been able to get very pleasantly high off 10-15mg of oxycodone for about a decade now. Every once in a great while, after a long week, or a weekend sports tournament, I think how nice it would be to have a few percs and chill out on the couch for an afternoon, just lazing in opiate bliss.

The problem is that I can never find any opiates in my area, and the rare occasion I can find them, it's such a bloody hassle that I eventually throw my hands in the air and give up.

Why is it so difficult? My theory is that there are piggies out there, gobbling up a disproportionate amount of the pills, and they are not sharing. They are also driving the price up, are turning copping pills into an unnecessary heatscore, and make the entire climate around something that should be a nice, moderate recreational activity, into a paranoid and dangerous experience.

Bluelight has always been about moderation and responsible use, not just with regards to MDMA, but all drugs. I don't see why opiates should be any different.

I just want to say, maybe some of you fiends out there could try sharing once in a while, or maybe taking it easy, and stop ruining it for the rest of us.
 
What?
You want others to stop being fiends and buying all the dope before you do? Little fact for you dude, moderation isn't exactly present in a drug addiction, well not usually.

People are addicted, tolerances rise, they wanna get high daily, that needs ever increasing doses.

15mg wouldn't put my grandma on the nod. Why dont you get more/better sources or buy it before the dopeheads.

Peeps can do as much as they like if they paid for it, it's theirs. Too bad for you, should have bought it before the other person thats the way it goes. Would you be sick or just well and not high so some random person you dont know has the opportunity to buy small amount of oxy?
lol

Get yourself connected theres plenty of heroin for all of us bro lol.
 
Look, I'm not coming down on people who use opiates. That would make me a terrible hypocrite.

I'm just saying, show a bit of restraint and have some consideration for keeping pills cheap and accessible for all. I mean, look around. Doctors aren't prescribing medication, police are on the lookout, human vacuum cleaners are killing the local supplies by literally eating hundreds of dollars worth of oxy every day, and it's all because fiends can't show a little self-control.
 
Well I don't mean 'share' as in give me drugs. I can buy my own. I just mean if everyone takes a step back, maybe we can salvage this situation. We already have things like wax matrix binders showing up in pills. Do you think this would have happened if people showed a bit of functional moderation?

If it was legal, I wouldn't care. People could stuff themselves silly and it wouldn't affect me in the slightest. But it's not legal, and supplies of good drugs are not readily accessible (to me anyways) and the price is becoming prohibitive. Yet people who just sit around and get high all day can somehow afford to take more dope in a day, than I make in money working at my job? I don't even know how this is possible..
 
The simple fact of the matter is that you are going to run into alot of opposition from us junkies that we should all live one some collectivist poppy farm. Just like communism it works really well in theory but doesnt account for the greed of human nature. However the first come first serve of nature of drug dealing is inherently capitalistic blunting one of mankinds worst aspects and in many ways making it a strength.

Sometime's you gotta walk the streets man.
There is so much demand.
 
Vaportrails said:
Yet people who just sit around and get high all day can somehow afford to take more dope in a day, than I make in money working at my job? I don't even know how this is possible..
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clearly these people are more motivated to get high than you are lol..
 
NoPromiseMade said:
The simple fact of the matter is that you are going to run into alot of opposition from us junkies that we should all live one some collectivist poppy farm. Just like communism it works really well in theory but doesnt account for the greed of human nature. However the first come first serve of nature of drug dealing is inherently capitalistic blunting one of mankinds worst aspects and in many ways making it a strength.
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But I have MONEY lol.. I'm not talking about some hippy paradise. I just want to cop from regular, functional people like myself.

Not to be degrading, but every single person I've met who sells pills is addicted to their own supply, and is one misstep away from doing (more) jail time.

Where's the regular guys who are just trying to supplement their day jobs with a bit of money on the side? I want to deal with those guys. I want a few percs, I call up a guy, he has a constant supply, I pop over to his suburb home with SUV in the driveway, we shake hands, he gives me a beer, we shoot the shit, make the deal and I call him up a few months later and we do it again. Easy.
 
Vaportrails i really admire your vision of a world where everyone uses opiates responsibly and never escalates their doses.... But that's just not reality dude.

It goes against the very essense of what majority of people are buying up all the dope for, addiction... And most the people buying are addicts.

Maybe you should find dealer who specialises in recreational users only?

Anyways man, i really think your situation comes down to the sources you personally know(or dont) rather than all the junkies magically buying all the dope before you get a chance to buy it man, come on.. think about it.
 
I dig what he's saying. I hate buying opiates because I always have to buy them from junkies who are sketchy as fuck and are constantly trying to rip me off. This doesn't happen with any other drugs, including addictive ones. Granted, I live in a city that seems to have a horrible opiate market (yet thriving markets for most other drugs).

I do have a decent tolerance though, even though I'm not an addict. I require around 80-100 mg of oxy to catch a good buzz. But I never really do oxy due to price, and I find other opiates to be much more enjoyable.

There's more bullshit surrounding the opiate market then the market for any other drug. At least I can make poppy tea in the springtime.
 
I'd blame the doctors who are too afraid to prescribe opiates due to lawsuits and legal issues--even to patients who legitimately need them. And the DEA. But not the fiends.
 
Its a yes and no answer. Yes because i have been known to be a self centred tool when time comes for me to get mine no matter the lengths i have to go to it has to be done. No because the goverment has a really firm hold on the pharmaceutical industries knickers they prescribe less goodies thereby downsizing the black market supply.
 
^ Could it be a cause and effect thing?

Like the government and the pharmaceutical industries are involved to the extent they are, due to the fiends?
 
Vaportrails said:
I was thinking about it the other day. I've been able to get very pleasantly high off 10-15mg of oxycodone for about a decade now. Every once in a great while, after a long week, or a weekend sports tournament, I think how nice it would be to have a few percs and chill out on the couch for an afternoon, just lazing in opiate bliss.

The problem is that I can never find any opiates in my area, and the rare occasion I can find them, it's such a bloody hassle that I eventually throw my hands in the air and give up.

Why is it so difficult? My theory is that there are piggies out there, gobbling up a disproportionate amount of the pills, and they are not sharing. They are also driving the price up, are turning copping pills into an unnecessary heatscore, and make the entire climate around something that should be a nice, moderate recreational activity, into a paranoid and dangerous experience.

Bluelight has always been about moderation and responsible use, not just with regards to MDMA, but all drugs. I don't see why opiates should be any different.

I just want to say, maybe some of you fiends out there could try sharing once in a while, or maybe taking it easy, and stop ruining it for the rest of us.
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You can't blame addicts for why you can't get drugs. Supply and demand fluctuates. Follow the supply. You clearly are in an area of high demand and low supply, or you don't know the right sort of people.
 
Vaportrails said:
Look, I'm not coming down on people who use opiates. That would make me a terrible hypocrite.

I'm just saying, show a bit of restraint and have some consideration for keeping pills cheap and accessible for all. I mean, look around. Doctors aren't prescribing medication, police are on the lookout, human vacuum cleaners are killing the local supplies by literally eating hundreds of dollars worth of oxy every day, and it's all because fiends can't show a little self-control.
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What is the point of this thread??? You must live in the middle of nowhere if your having trouble finding opiates. You honestly think the "fiends" are ruining it for you? WTF
 
L O fuckin L, vaportrails. Wow.

I know you are serious, but i dont think you are aware that your post seriously, seriously sounds like a complete attempt to troll us all.

The shit you are sayin is straight up ridiculous yo.

I honestly cant believe you are sayin this stuff with a straight face. "Hey addicts, how bout you show a little self control so my occasional recreational-using ass can have a easier time buying pills?"

People who cant stop to stay out of jail. Who cant stop to save their marriage or devoted relationship with someone they love more than life itself. Who cant stop to keep their kids out of foster care. Who cant stop for their parents who cry every day and beg them to stop and constantly give chance after second chance after 10th chance to the kid who robs all their valuables and steals their car to go cop and etc. People who cant stop for 3 days to piss clean for probation even tho they know they will go to jail if they come up dirty. People who cant stop so they do shit they never dreamed they would even consider doing just so they can get high.

And you think they should stop or cut down their use out of COURTESY for somebody they dont know to keep the "opiate economy" more "fair"?

Jesus christ that is some silly ass shit.

You gotta be seriously deluded to believe that that could ever happen, or that its even fair or reasonable to suggest.

You got bad connects--that sucks. The problem aint with other people its with your connects and your situation. It aint up to nobody else to change their use for YOU.

Anyways be thankful. If you cant catch a nod off your 3 percs once every few months youll shrug your shoulders and be like, oh well.

thats a lot less of a burden to have to bear than the shit that addicts gotta deal with when they cant get shit.

Also , i really dont know where you at but there is always, always a supply. there aint no opiate shortage. Nobody owes a damn thing to nobody else to buy less pills so that weekend users with no tolerance and no habit can have fun once in a while. That aint our responsibility. It aint like people with big habits are doing it for FUN. Jesus yo, you do realize that they NEED THAT MUCH to function? It aint like some kind of thing where they are just "hogging" all the pills cuz they are selfish bastards, they are doing wat they need to do to SURVIVE.

This is the most insane thread i seen in a long time.

Ima leave it open for now, even tho my first instinct was to close it for bein so nutz but im gettin some enjoyment outta readin how its goin so Ima leave it open for now. Im sure this will be a fun thread to watch.
 
I completely agree with Lacey K. There's no way in hell any addict would feel obligated to cut down their use for the purpose of giving recreational users a better chance at getting high with more supply, especially for the reasons Lacey mentioned above.
 
Vaportrails said:
I was thinking about it the other day. I've been able to get very pleasantly high off 10-15mg of oxycodone for about a decade now. Every once in a great while, after a long week, or a weekend sports tournament, I think how nice it would be to have a few percs and chill out on the couch for an afternoon, just lazing in opiate bliss.

The problem is that I can never find any opiates in my area, and the rare occasion I can find them, it's such a bloody hassle that I eventually throw my hands in the air and give up.

Why is it so difficult? My theory is that there are piggies out there, gobbling up a disproportionate amount of the pills, and they are not sharing. They are also driving the price up, are turning copping pills into an unnecessary heatscore, and make the entire climate around something that should be a nice, moderate recreational activity, into a paranoid and dangerous experience.

Bluelight has always been about moderation and responsible use, not just with regards to MDMA, but all drugs. I don't see why opiates should be any different.

I just want to say, maybe some of you fiends out there could try sharing once in a while, or maybe taking it easy, and stop ruining it for the rest of us.
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you mean to tell me, that there is a multi BILLION dollar industry going on and you are blaming someone else because you cant find dope?



you, sir, are fucking moron.
 
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