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Do alpha males exist? Is being good at picking up innate?

I think its both born in and learned. I've always been able to approach others. also my personality allows a larger array of pick up tactics depending on what mood I'm in. I can be straight up charming, sweet, caring, and chivalrous (I'm one of the guys who tells a girl she's beautiful) but I can also crack crude disgusting jokes but my delivery and timing makes it appropriate and a good ice breaker. its about being able to work with what you have and KNOWING what you have. so do I consider myself alpha? no, because that implies superiority over others. but am I a good guy who does well with the ladies? you bet your sexy tight little ass I am. I know my strengths and weaknesses, and treat the situation like a game with no real penalty for losing: best case- I get a chicks number or a hookup, etc. worst case- I get a cool chick I get to hangout with whenever I see her.
 
I like this concept of some arent choosing to play in any sort of game. Im not. And I would agree that its unfair to label someone a "beta" (or any non-alpha) as they may very well be a "non combatant."

Sexual relationships can also be either emotionally attached intimate friendships, or hedonistic indulgences with mutual biological needs to be fulfilled. Keeping score with sex makes about as much sense to me as keeping score with rides on a roller coaster. How do you experience the moment if youre so worried about the acquisition and maintenance of status? Takes all the fun out of fucking if you ask me.
 
Dunno... I think the alpha male thing is a modern invention based on gender roles, where men are the persuers and women are the passive sheep waiting to be hit on. In reality the world is much more diverse.

Also, based on the number of people having children who should not be reproducing, being an alpha male doesn't matter much.
 
'Day in the life of an Alpha male'

An alpha male I stand. Proud powerful & elite.

Tall, fast and fearsome 'ROOAAARR" hear my powerful growl as I run fast on my feet.
I look down on you, you look up to me.

An alpha male. Testosterone coursing through my veins.
Power emanates enigmatically around me.

I smile charismatically. Chiseled jaw emasculating manly masculinity.


Aggressively pissing everywhere. Marking my territory. Complete.
 
OP I think the "Alpha males" you describe are what most people would call a "Player" or a dude who just want to hump and dump or hit it and quit it.

I'm gay and I have had men in bars and dance clubs grab my ass, crotch, or touch me and it's clear they just want sex and this is a major turn off to me. It's one reason why I only go to bars and dance clubs with a group of friends a few times a year and not every weekend and alone like when I was younger.
 
An alpha male I stand. Proud powerful & elite.

Tall, fast and fearsome 'ROOAAARR" hear my powerful growl as I run fast on my feet.
I look down on you, you look up to me.

An alpha male. Testosterone coursing through my veins.
Power emanates enigmatically around me.

I smile charismatically. Chiseled jaw emasculating manly masculinity.


Aggressively pissing everywhere. Marking my territory. Complete.

Impressive
=D
 
As humans, women are a failed animal. While alpha males in the true sense of a powerful aggressive creature in a nightclub setting may draw the eye initially, rarely do they get the best mates.

I am far from the typical alpha male. I am we'll less than 6 ft tall, with an asymmetrical face, crooked nose and I don't play guitar. I am far from unattractive yet when I walk into a room I am rarely considered a threat by other men. This hasn't stopped me from attracting beautiful women my whole life though. I guess I am lucky that I never have to join fight club before being picked by my female mate. Give me 15 minutes in your girlfriend ear however and I usually have her secon guessing her relationship with you. I guess intelligence, wit and charm can be some what genetic, but equally environment can have a detrimental effect on ones personality. Hang around with "the boys" too long being an arse and your buff sculptured body suddenly becomes a turn off.

As Bart Simpson once said, " no one ever suspects the butterfly"
 
As humans, women are a failed animal. While alpha males in the true sense of a powerful aggressive creature in a nightclub setting may draw the eye initially, rarely do they get the best mates.

I am far from the typical alpha male. I am we'll less than 6 ft tall, with an asymmetrical face, crooked nose and I don't play guitar. I am far from unattractive yet when I walk into a room I am rarely considered a threat by other men. This hasn't stopped me from attracting beautiful women my whole life though. I guess I am lucky that I never have to join fight club before being picked by my female mate. Give me 15 minutes in your girlfriend ear however and I usually have her secon guessing her relationship with you. I guess intelligence, wit and charm can be some what genetic, but equally environment can have a detrimental effect on ones personality. Hang around with "the boys" too long being an arse and your buff sculptured body suddenly becomes a turn off.

As Bart Simpson once said, " no one ever suspects the butterfly"
I completely agree with you. I use the same tactics if you will. my nose is crooked (got it broken some years ago and set it myself), I smile with a crooked grin, I'm 5' 7", not buff but athletic, and am not viewed as threat. until I sit next to your girl at the bar. I don't drink either. tell her why, its because I become a naughty boy when I drink. tell her how beautiful she is. how she caught my eye across the room, and how I had to talk to her. I don't play no instruments either, but the poet in me allows me to make her blush and feel good about herself. validation. something lots of girls want. make her not feel like one in a million, not one of a kind, but the only one. words can be very powerful when combined with finesse. I'm not the loud baffoon, I'm the quiet tactician.
 
Impressive
=D

Haha, thanks. :)

Fwiw I have some characteristics people would undoubtedly class as 'alpha male' (I got the height - 6'4" & looks). But in reality I'm a borderline loner and spend far too much time shying away from social situations.

'One thousand words' is right; women don't care so much about looks or how tall someone is.
It's more about talking the talk (ie confidence) and earning a good wage. More-so than anything else imo.

I have no problem being attractive initially, but when it comes to being a man (ie alpha) it's more about money.


Take my last gf. She was infatuated with me to begin with & I just gave her what she wanted.

Needless to say I told her she'd get bored of me - and she did.
Had I some $$$ I'd probably be in bed with her now & not typing this.
 
'One thousand words' is right; women don't care so much about looks or how tall someone is.
It's more about talking the talk (ie confidence) and earning a good wage. More-so than anything else imo.

I have no problem being attractive initially, but when it comes to being a man (ie alpha) it's more about money.

I really don't understand this whole money thing. Not all females are only attracted to rich guys. I loved my boyfriend when he was working part time in college and practically broke. I mean, I wouldn't be happy with someone who had no goals/ambition for a career. But that's more about character than money. I've had plenty of opportunities to date rich guys, guys with better jobs than my bf, but that's not the reason I date people. But everyone is different. My coworker said she wouldn't marry anyone unless he made $150,000 / yr. I think that is quite excessive.

As for confidence - I do think that is what really helps in making someone an "alpha" male (still not sure if I agree with that term exactly). I know that's what originally attracted me to my boyfriend. I also wouldn't date someone who wasn't confident / insecure with himself.
 
'One thousand words' is right; women don't care so much about looks or how tall someone is.
It's more about talking the talk (ie confidence) and earning a good wage. More-so than anything else imo.

Honestly, I very much care about a man's height and looks. My guy has to be over six feet tall...and nice-looking. (Preferably with long hair and tattoos)

The thing I don't care much about is his income. As long as he makes enough to support himself, I'm happy.
 
Picking up women isn't an Alpha male thing.


Alphas are just disposed to being leaders in a group, that's all. They are natural leaders and it shows wherever they go. When they speak people listen. When confronted they don't back down. When they confront others only other Alphas will stand up to them.

Alphas are not that common, and most of them will never be caught in places where popularity or coolness is the thing, remember they are natural leaders not egotists. They are not looking for confirmation on their ability to lead or adoring attention. They get that naturally just by them being themselves.
 
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Illyria:
If you met a man who was 5'5, with short hair, no tats or intentions of getting them, and not particularly handsome, but he had a bangin personality and loved you more than your best friend does, treated you with respect and was a demon in the sack, and best of all had a beautiful circumcised cak, would you not give him a chance?
 
Illyria:
If you met a man who was 5'5, with short hair, no tats or intentions of getting them, and not particularly handsome, but he had a bangin personality and loved you more than your best friend does, treated you with respect and was a demon in the sack, and best of all had a beautiful circumcised cak, would you not give him a chance?

Yes, if he could sell himself.

In a corporate setting, alpha males are really interesting. Not the douchebags who have no friends and are just super dickheads with everyone. Those are unattractive and a turnoff. I'm talking about a guy who knows his shit and is forceful but in the right way. A way that wins friends and influences people. Men who are not afraid to talk to me, but who aren't all "I want to fuck you." Men who give me a look and know what's up, but aren't arrogant assholes about it. Men who will sit down with me and treat me like a peer but who give me a look like "you and me...we could rock it in the sack." but they don't say it. Men who will respect me and allow me to do what I am good at, but will still teach me things in a respectful way. Men who will challenge me, but do it in a funny, playful way and then of course men who will also say "Ok, dude you're right and I'm wrong" and are OK with a female being right.

These men are alpha, smart, and I will drop the alpha female and totally be submissive for.
 
Illyria:
If you met a man who was 5'5, with short hair, no tats or intentions of getting them, and not particularly handsome, but he had a bangin personality and loved you more than your best friend does, treated you with respect and was a demon in the sack, and best of all had a beautiful circumcised cak, would you not give him a chance?

I'm sorry, no. I'm nearly six feet myself and I feel much better with a man who is my height or taller.

But I'd fuck the shorter guy. :D
 
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