Dnt remember what happened after smoking DMT

[shamz]

I had smoked dmt 2-3 times in a bong using sandwich method but couldn't get much out of it and then I made "the machine' to smoke it. The first time i smoked,i got to see the patterns and the colours (yellow in particular) but i was aware of all what is happening and it wasnt a breakthrough and i have been eyeballing ma doses. the next time i smoked it,i had prepared a gud dose( about the size of our pinky nail) and i smoked it. I had 3 tokes and after that I was gone. I don't remember what actually happened but i just remember gng and hugging ma gf who was sleeping on the bed and I was really happy to be back. Did i smoke more than required?????...I always have pre flight anxiety and I am always lil bit scared before i go for it. I need some expert advice on this. Is it normal not to remember what happened?????.... everything was happening really fast

 

[SirTophamHat]

The B&DDT will help you out. Try reading that a lil. Two things will aid in your ability to remember your voyages more than any other, really. First, trying using an MAOi. It slows down the experience, which can lead to easier integration. Second, find a method of recording your experience directly after coming out of the trip. This can mean either writing your memories down, sharing them verbally with others, etc.

 

[shishigami]

I would not recommend trying an MAOI, it might slow it down but it will also make it much more intense. It sounds like you just took way too much and blacked out, try less now that you have a method that works better.

 

[Solipsis]

I'd also recommend against the MAOI - that is for seasoned trippers who are aware of the doses they take, can adjust the dose and know what to expect. The TS is doing none of that (yet).
Personally I have only taken MAOIs with mushrooms but that was insanity. Probably the most serious substance (mixture) I ever took.
Changa sounds interesting to me but I am holding that off indefinitely.

Blackouts have been known to happen when too much is smoked, I am not sure if consciousness is regained during comedown effects or after. Maybe that varies.

Eyeballing your doses is not a reliable way to measure, one speck can be a LOT more dense than others - making it look the same but actually be a much higher dose. Get a scale, start reasonably low (I don't see why 10 mg wouldn't be fine if the compound's identity is verified).

 

[SirTophamHat]

I posted knowing that MAOi intensifies the trip. It's an advantage to be able to reduce the dose (of the DMT) and retain equivalent effects, right?

I don't think we should assume the OP is a total newbie about drugs. MAOI would be an effective solution to the problem, should he eventually select that route, so I thought it was worth mentioning.

 

[Solipsis]

Have you tried this yourself because something like harmala or caapi may indeed change the quality of the trip (with moclobemide it sounds minimal).

Even if he is not a newbie, adding another drug when you are having difficulties getting the result right from just the one... doesn't seem like a particularly wise or viable solution.

That is not even the point. MAOIs intensify a trip indeed (whether or not the quality is affected), and when you get blackouts, just like with salvia, alcohol and most other drugs the solution should not be sought in intensification but in moderation.

The 'problem' as you say, that used to be that sufficient effects could not be achieved without 'the machine', was apparently solved by using 'the machine'. Solved, and then some more.

 

[rickolasnice]

Not to mention MAOI and other drugs, and even foods, can be extremely dangerous.

 

[Incunabula]

Not to mention MAOI and other drugs, and even foods, can be extremely dangerous.

That's only with irreversible MAO-B inhibitors. With MAO-A inhibitor's (RIMA) like harmine, harmaline (syrian rue, Banisteriopsis caapi) or Moclobemide it isn't an issue. I mean with the diet.

Refraining from all other drugs for at least 24 hours after is a must though, obviously.

I haven't tried smoking DMT with a MAOI, but I am considering trying it because of the reports of it slowing down the experience.

The 2 times I've broken through on DMT I also had a hard time recalling the details, I think it's just the way it is for some people. Too little, no break through, too much, hard time grasping what happened.

OP, I'd definitely say you should try lowering the dose first. But later on you could consider a MAOI, but be sure educate your self first. When using a MAOI you inhibit some vital enzymes in you body. So be sure to know what your doing.

 

[motiv311]

it is common for you to "forget" your DMT trip ; especially if its really intense.


you should remember something, but not the overall message or lesson

 

[deee]

Use the bottle method (see link), smoke 80-100mgs aprox of DMT (alittle bigger than your pinky), all in one, hold the smoke in as long as you can, then the 'switch will be thrown in your brain', 'the alarm will be tripped', 'the machinery will start' and reality will become hyper defined - you will break through and then ermmm....

....come back here and describe what happened, because sure as hell I can't put that into words



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4

(keep the lid on the bottle first, fill with thick creamy smoke, remove lid, down in one- simple)