ros1816
Bluelighter
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[Sorry for really long post - If no one replies I guess I will have to make a shorter one]
Ive been trying to break through for a while now. Any advice appreciated
I seem to spending a fair amount of money on it in terms of the actual substance (it's about £45 a gramme bought off the Silk Road) and the investment in paraphenalia. Im keen to find a method that works for me without my needing to keep wasting so much of the stuff. Im also aware that I may not breakthrough but would be content with finding a method of ensuring a pretty strong trip.
Here are my experiences:
DAY 1
- 200mg DMT freebase powder inhaled off tinfoil. Was drunk and had had quite a bit of coke earlier that evening. Got very brief like 30 seconds of heightened colours. Girlfriend grabbed the straw and got the rest - she had a decent trip.
DAY 2 (weeks later)
-80mg DMT freebase powder vapourised using a 'rose in a glass tube pipe (with brillo pad)' - like this http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2012/02/22/8b/2e/9163177.jpg
. The DMT was sandwiched between some rolling tobacco. Did this dosage three times for three separate trips. Quite intense with the colours and thinking bits of plastic were in my mouth (was just saliva!). This was the best trip and closest Ive got I think. This glass pipe method gave me my strongest trip.
DAY 3 (2 weeks later)
-Smoking a changa rollup at a festival whilst high on MDMA and 2CB. Light trip but brief pretty visuals. Was a massive waste of changa (500 mg in the rollup, passed around amongst 4 people- I was only one of two people to get anything off it!)
-100mg dmt vapourised through a bowl pipe/crack pipe. Had to take a huge number of hits, like 7 or 8. Can remember very little - dont think it was a strong trip at all. Was very high on MDMA.
-100mg DMT snorted whilst coming down from MDMA. This took a while to take effect (snorting after all). Visuals werent that strong so i closed my eyes for more intersting visuals. Had interesting auditory hallucinations (boingey boing sounds). The burning sensation in nostrils and streaming mucus definitely interfered with the trip but it was nice to have a longer one.
Day 4 (6 days later)
-100mg DMT through Classic Vapour Genie (CVG) vapouriser pipe. The DMT was sandwiched between some rolling tobacco. Had to take a lot of hits and then didnt get very strong open eye visuals but slightly more interesting closed eye. Was a brief trip. Was coming down from MDMA.
Day 5 (4 days later)
-A three hour session with about 600mg of changa. I used the Classic Vapour Genie again. I didnt sandwich the changa between anything - instead I just left it on its own. Again had to take a huge number of hits to get things going. I had maybe three or four different trips. Some interesting things were observed but I was a very very long way away from breaking through. The visuals were incredibly weak and almost nothing like DMT. I had unusual visual flickers and sensations of being watched. The closed eye visuals were completely different and more like a dream - also had sensation of people shining lights in my eyes. The body high was very strong and at one point I thought I was sitting on a heat source bizarrely. All in all, whilst interesting, I would say the changa was a massive waste. 600mg of DMT would have been far more entertaining. I feel the Changa was almost like a different substance - there was very little heightened colours or strong visuals, some of the visual motifs were more reminiscent of acid, and some of the paranoia reminded me of being stoned!)
All of the above experiences were using a conventional lighter. I have been thinking about getting a torch lighter although it seems excessive given the Classic Vapour Genie was quite expensive and seems a bit of a waste now (the only thing I use it for is DMT/Changa).
Of the other methods available to me, I have thought of using a 2 liter plastic bottle cut in half with the DMT sitting on some foil but I have been scared off this after reading about the consequences of inhaling tin foil and plastic. I have also thought about getting a 2 foot glass bong (more expense!), or building the Machine.
Questions I have:
- Should I give up on the Classic Vapour Genie. (despite all the money i just spent on it!) Perhaps it's not right for me? Should I go back to the glass pipe - this method gave me my strongest trip after all...
-Should I really load up on the DMT - for instance should I see what vapourising 200mg of DMT can do for me? or would this just result in a waste of DMT? I know I know that some people can breakthrough on 20-40mg but I think I might be quite resistant to it
-If the glass pipe then fails should I move on to the 2 foot bong method, and then try and make the Machine??
-The irritation to the nose from snorting the DMT definitely interfered with the trip but it definitely had an effect, should I try upping the dosage I snorted, so taking it to 150mg? Is snorting generally considered a waste of DMT ie the substance is not utilised effectively and much is lost
-I reckong Im not building up a tolerance to it but I have definitely had 500mg of DMT and 600mg of Changa in the past month ... could this be interfering with my making a breakthrough or experienceing a heavy trip?
-When I hold the smoke in I have tried counting to 10 or 15 secs but Ive not noticed any greater effects to be honest. Should I forget about holding it in for a predetermined amount of time and just do what feels natural?
-Perhaps I will never breakthrough?
Ive been trying to break through for a while now. Any advice appreciated
I seem to spending a fair amount of money on it in terms of the actual substance (it's about £45 a gramme bought off the Silk Road) and the investment in paraphenalia. Im keen to find a method that works for me without my needing to keep wasting so much of the stuff. Im also aware that I may not breakthrough but would be content with finding a method of ensuring a pretty strong trip.
Here are my experiences:
DAY 1
- 200mg DMT freebase powder inhaled off tinfoil. Was drunk and had had quite a bit of coke earlier that evening. Got very brief like 30 seconds of heightened colours. Girlfriend grabbed the straw and got the rest - she had a decent trip.
DAY 2 (weeks later)
-80mg DMT freebase powder vapourised using a 'rose in a glass tube pipe (with brillo pad)' - like this http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2012/02/22/8b/2e/9163177.jpg
. The DMT was sandwiched between some rolling tobacco. Did this dosage three times for three separate trips. Quite intense with the colours and thinking bits of plastic were in my mouth (was just saliva!). This was the best trip and closest Ive got I think. This glass pipe method gave me my strongest trip.
DAY 3 (2 weeks later)
-Smoking a changa rollup at a festival whilst high on MDMA and 2CB. Light trip but brief pretty visuals. Was a massive waste of changa (500 mg in the rollup, passed around amongst 4 people- I was only one of two people to get anything off it!)
-100mg dmt vapourised through a bowl pipe/crack pipe. Had to take a huge number of hits, like 7 or 8. Can remember very little - dont think it was a strong trip at all. Was very high on MDMA.
-100mg DMT snorted whilst coming down from MDMA. This took a while to take effect (snorting after all). Visuals werent that strong so i closed my eyes for more intersting visuals. Had interesting auditory hallucinations (boingey boing sounds). The burning sensation in nostrils and streaming mucus definitely interfered with the trip but it was nice to have a longer one.
Day 4 (6 days later)
-100mg DMT through Classic Vapour Genie (CVG) vapouriser pipe. The DMT was sandwiched between some rolling tobacco. Had to take a lot of hits and then didnt get very strong open eye visuals but slightly more interesting closed eye. Was a brief trip. Was coming down from MDMA.
Day 5 (4 days later)
-A three hour session with about 600mg of changa. I used the Classic Vapour Genie again. I didnt sandwich the changa between anything - instead I just left it on its own. Again had to take a huge number of hits to get things going. I had maybe three or four different trips. Some interesting things were observed but I was a very very long way away from breaking through. The visuals were incredibly weak and almost nothing like DMT. I had unusual visual flickers and sensations of being watched. The closed eye visuals were completely different and more like a dream - also had sensation of people shining lights in my eyes. The body high was very strong and at one point I thought I was sitting on a heat source bizarrely. All in all, whilst interesting, I would say the changa was a massive waste. 600mg of DMT would have been far more entertaining. I feel the Changa was almost like a different substance - there was very little heightened colours or strong visuals, some of the visual motifs were more reminiscent of acid, and some of the paranoia reminded me of being stoned!)
All of the above experiences were using a conventional lighter. I have been thinking about getting a torch lighter although it seems excessive given the Classic Vapour Genie was quite expensive and seems a bit of a waste now (the only thing I use it for is DMT/Changa).
Of the other methods available to me, I have thought of using a 2 liter plastic bottle cut in half with the DMT sitting on some foil but I have been scared off this after reading about the consequences of inhaling tin foil and plastic. I have also thought about getting a 2 foot glass bong (more expense!), or building the Machine.
Questions I have:
- Should I give up on the Classic Vapour Genie. (despite all the money i just spent on it!) Perhaps it's not right for me? Should I go back to the glass pipe - this method gave me my strongest trip after all...
-Should I really load up on the DMT - for instance should I see what vapourising 200mg of DMT can do for me? or would this just result in a waste of DMT? I know I know that some people can breakthrough on 20-40mg but I think I might be quite resistant to it
-If the glass pipe then fails should I move on to the 2 foot bong method, and then try and make the Machine??
-The irritation to the nose from snorting the DMT definitely interfered with the trip but it definitely had an effect, should I try upping the dosage I snorted, so taking it to 150mg? Is snorting generally considered a waste of DMT ie the substance is not utilised effectively and much is lost
-I reckong Im not building up a tolerance to it but I have definitely had 500mg of DMT and 600mg of Changa in the past month ... could this be interfering with my making a breakthrough or experienceing a heavy trip?
-When I hold the smoke in I have tried counting to 10 or 15 secs but Ive not noticed any greater effects to be honest. Should I forget about holding it in for a predetermined amount of time and just do what feels natural?
-Perhaps I will never breakthrough?