DMT session at psychedelic church

[opiatekrzy]

I live in San Francisco and I was told of a psychedelic church that has spirit guides on site as well. Curious as I was I went there, I filled out paperwork, took a picture for a member ID and it was official I was a member.
New members are given the opportunity to have a DMT session. They have a vape they let you hit and a sitting area to feel the effects.
I did as Instructed and inhaled until my lungs were absolutely full and held it in as long as possible. Boy I wasn't prepared for how intense this trip was going to be.
As soon as the effects hit me, I closed my eyes. I became engulfed with extreme fear and panic. I was starting to feel like I was going to have an adverse reaction to the DMT and suffer a fatal heart attack. The thought felt so real and everything felt demonic and I felt like it was an inevitable truth that this was going to be my reality ; me suffering a fatal heart attack right here at the spiritual church. I had visions of me collapsing, ambulance coming, and being transported to the hospital. I felt the most realistic pain that my mother is experiencing when she gets the phone call and now had to pay to have my body transferred from California back to NY to be cremated. I also visioned her finally getting the autopsy results and finding out I was using drugs in California when I was supposed to be sober doing the right thing and me violating her trust while she is sending me money supporting me only to be getting high lying to her.
I had to fight with my life for the longest 15 minutes of my entire life to stay alive. I felt like I was forced to navigate an airplane with zero experience to prevent it from crashing. That's how hard and agonizing the 15min DMT trip was.
I came to the conclusion that I have demonic spirits embedded deep in me and my soul Is having a constant battle fighting it off.
I didn't feel welcome at all by the spirits when I did the DMT. It felt taken over by demonic entities.
This was the most scariest, demonic and dysphoric feeling I have ever felt in my life and I'm never touching it again.
Im in San Francisco and I can't believe this psychedelic church is legal and allowed to run like it is. They also have mescaline, 5-meo-dmt, DMT, mushrooms and marijuana. I must say it is pretty cool to see a place like that.

 

[JackARoe]

I came to the conclusion that I have demonic spirits embedded deep in me and my soul Is having a constant battle fighting it off.

Glad you are ok, interesting statement, but on the poetic side. I usually have a different way of viewing this. Instead of me carrying around ghouls (been watching Sopranos lately so use I've been using the lingo) I know the ghouls already existed and put their thoughts out into the universe. Then I can either tune in or not. Like a radio wave. Next time you may get Angelic results. And as i do believe we all carry our "internal demons", I just view them as choices in ourselves we have to change. Not an actual demon. Nothing can really hurt you. Tune differently. Like change the channel.

I am not sure how I feel about psychedelic churches. Why can't they just be tools people use? I know we have to word things differently to get around some of the current barbaric laws, but a scientist using DMT would be as fascinated as someone going to a church to use it. It should be free for all. I am of the mind I liked that LSD was dumped into the public with no guidance manual in the 60's. (We got some good music! lol) And I subscribe to the idea that we are our own Shaman and Guru. No need for an external influence. Now I am probably missing some important points with that attitude, but that is the way I feel.

 

[Ki3ly]

I know 2C-B and DMT have to be the best ! Better than a funnel cake. I like to live dangerously.

The 2C-B not so much. ^^ Nice.

 

[M!$TER-ED]

Glad you are ok, interesting statement, but on the poetic side. I usually have a different way of viewing this. Instead of me carrying around ghouls (been watching Sopranos lately so use I've been using the lingo) I know the ghouls already existed and put their thoughts out into the universe. Then I can either tune in or not. Like a radio wave. Next time you may get Angelic results. And as i do believe we all carry our "internal demons", I just view them as choices in ourselves we have to change. Not an actual demon. Nothing can really hurt you. Tune differently. Like change the channel.

I am not sure how I feel about psychedelic churches. Why can't they just be tools people use? I know we have to word things differently to get around some of the current barbaric laws, but a scientist using DMT would be as fascinated as someone going to a church to use it. It should be free for all. I am of the mind I liked that LSD was dumped into the public with no guidance manual in the 60's. (We got some good music! lol) And I subscribe to the idea that we are our own Shaman and Guru. No need for an external influence. Now I am probably missing some important points with that attitude, but that is the way I feel.

I agree @JackARoe 100% why is it common practice people are drawn to having assistance in their quest for internal growth and awareness by way of a teacher, guru, or clergy? It's so stupid humans are so dependent on so called leaders they fail to realize their own potential. These so called spiritual leaders or whatever they consider themselves as conduits or helpers are nothing more than humans themselves. Somehow they got it in their head they are special and called upon by a higher power to share their understanding....such bull shit, it makes me nauseous.

 

[Kushman3000]

I live in San Francisco and I was told of a psychedelic church that has spirit guides on site as well. Curious as I was I went there, I filled out paperwork, took a picture for a member ID and it was official I was a member.
New members are given the opportunity to have a DMT session. They have a vape they let you hit and a sitting area to feel the effects.
I did as Instructed and inhaled until my lungs were absolutely full and held it in as long as possible. Boy I wasn't prepared for how intense this trip was going to be.
As soon as the effects hit me, I closed my eyes. I became engulfed with extreme fear and panic. I was starting to feel like I was going to have an adverse reaction to the DMT and suffer a fatal heart attack. The thought felt so real and everything felt demonic and I felt like it was an inevitable truth that this was going to be my reality ; me suffering a fatal heart attack right here at the spiritual church. I had visions of me collapsing, ambulance coming, and being transported to the hospital. I felt the most realistic pain that my mother is experiencing when she gets the phone call and now had to pay to have my body transferred from California back to NY to be cremated. I also visioned her finally getting the autopsy results and finding out I was using drugs in California when I was supposed to be sober doing the right thing and me violating her trust while she is sending me money supporting me only to be getting high lying to her.
I had to fight with my life for the longest 15 minutes of my entire life to stay alive. I felt like I was forced to navigate an airplane with zero experience to prevent it from crashing. That's how hard and agonizing the 15min DMT trip was.
I came to the conclusion that I have demonic spirits embedded deep in me and my soul Is having a constant battle fighting it off.
I didn't feel welcome at all by the spirits when I did the DMT. It felt taken over by demonic entities.
This was the most scariest, demonic and dysphoric feeling I have ever felt in my life and I'm never touching it again.
Im in San Francisco and I can't believe this psychedelic church is legal and allowed to run like it is. They also have mescaline, 5-meo-dmt, DMT, mushrooms and marijuana. I must say it is pretty cool to see a place like that.

Psychedelics are known to bring out subconcious fears to the surface, also whoever made the dmt they could have bad intentions.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Please elaborate on that . What do you mean by bad intentions by the person who made it?

 

[yoyoman]

I believe, due to a build up of evidence over a long time, that something happened to the quality of all the different types of bark, both mexican and brazillian MHRB, acacia confusa probalby always sucked since its like half NMT.. and people have been in denial about it. Its just REALLY hard to get the DMT to be pure enough, to not get that dark, ugly visuals, demonic crap trips. People will point to analysis showing 95 or 98% pure, but for me I know that even a TINY bit of the wrong weird plant compound in there will RUIN the trip. I thought it was my brain and sometimes DMT does change on you but I have had the good stuff just a few years ago.

Something just came to mind that would be more evidence and something I noticed - if the DMT is in a electronic vape device, and if its good at first but quickly turns into that 'ugly trip' i think its because some of the DMT gets changed with the vape and if there is a lot of it and its just sitting in there, the heat degrades just a tiny bit, and that is enough to ruin it.

I think the demand for it, just makes people harvest way more of it way too fast and maybe this changes the contents of what those other compounds are and some of them are just extremely potent and override DMT. After enough years of this no one even knows what real DMT is supposed to be like anymore unless you've had the good shit before or used lots before like 2005.. I know that almost all of the vape pens and dmt on DNMs sucks, big time sucks, and its because there are no inventives to not just profit from impure. It makes people trip and people just won't sit and wonder for a sec if its true, so they just deny that its a quality issue. Younger people who haven't had good pure DMT, haven't seen the crystalline extreme clarity, like being in a cartoon or digital world, they just think its demons or spiritual stuff or something... or think they can't handle it, or whatever