DMT + Moclobemide (Moclohuasca) then DPT -- First time -- Higher dose next time.

[yaesutom]

Moclohuasca (+ DPT) - First time - Higher dose next time.

Moclohuasca (then DPT) - First time - Higher dose next time

18g mimosa hostilis / 150mg moclobemide

About 8:10 or so, i started sipping the nasty tasting drink. I took the moclobemide 1-2 hours before.

Noticed effects starting about 20-30 mins after. I was sipping over 20 mins or so.

This is VERY much like mushrooms, especially my last mushroom trip minus most visuals, so far.

I didnt look at the clock, but i let the effects come up for a good long while before i sipped some more (i felt i reached a plateau). Suprisingly, I did not get any nausea except once, but it was from the taste of the drink. I didnt throw up though

To describe the effects, other than mushroom effects, well except very vibrant colors.. Music, sounds wonderful (I have never taken harmine/harmaline but i read it can reduce the high frequencies in sound, I think that would be definitely a neg. effect with music). I notice i'm very much aware of time, and actually time seems "sped up" just like it does on 5-meo-dmt. I was on my way to the bathroom and noticed a TV, and i was watching this commercial, and oh damn, they were talking SO fast that if it was that way when i'm sober, theres no way people could understand them (although yet I could catch not only every word but every other little thing about it). Everything is "sped up". Listening to music, when the effects were near peaking it sounded like music kind of blended in with it all, and sounded like it was sliced into millions of pieces, very much like it does on 5-meo-dmt, and i'm suprised that i've noticed these similarities with that one which i thought there would be nothing (much) similar.

Its now 10:11 and about 5 mins ago i took another 150mg mocl., and about 10 mins ago i also took another 150mg. I made enough drink where I didnt think i'd need this much, prob more like half, so i'm wondering if its not enough mao inhibition. So i'm going to wait a while before I drink prob the rest hoping the extra moclobemide has kicked in.

Well I read a good report about mixing DPT with DMT and, the little i have left of the drink, i'm thinking this will be mostly a weak DMT trip mostly like 'shrooms. So I just took a capsule of about 40mg DPT, its now 10:37. I'm going to wait just a bit longer, maybe just before 11 to drink the rest of the drink.

Ok its about 10:50 and i feel i think the moclobemide taking effect (either that or i'm just a little tired). Sort of a tad sedated but..not really. Anyway i may start to feel the DPT's effect slightly, and i just toked some potent weed for nausea hopefully and i'm 'bout to drink the rest.

Ok its 10:55 I drank the rest, and i know the DPT is slowly climbing. I'm taking deep breaths slowly, relaxed and the DMT buzz is very calm. I'm just waiting for the DMT to hit, and the DPT will be stronger and i'm guessing, this is gonna be kinda cool. The weed definitely kicked up the trip, and this is very colorful (colored dots all over), very nice trip so far, and music is on and sounds incredible! I'm going to sit and relax and just watch everything and absorb

Well like before, a lower dose like that of DPT just doesn't do much. So, i downed 100mg just now at 11:22, and i'm about to smoke some 5-meo-dmt! by the time the 5meo is wearing off mostly the DPT should make itself known.

Well next time i'll have to maybe use the leaves i have instead, and use a LOT, and, i think if i would have taken most of the dose at once, it would definitely have been more potent. Its my first time, so i got some practice to do. I'll use maybe 600mg moclobemide next time.. (maybe not required? any one know if it would do any good?, I read 75mg was enough to activate DMT orally) I also wonder if its the piracetam/aniracetam i take regularly, i do know the effects are there during a trip, wonder if like ketamine/dissociatives it somewhat blocks certain effects. Time to hit da 5meo! Its 11:26.

Its now 12:40, what a wonderful, beautiful trip. Nothing like it. Pure beauty... "higher" state of consciousness, more aware of my mind and calm/focused. I felt I was guided to research the plants containing DMT last time I ate mushrooms, with moclobemide. I knew I would like / love it, its a medicine. Well, fun and interesting too.. I'm sorta curious about other possible DMT analogs, 4-hydroxy/phosphoryloxy-DMT, 5-meo-DMT, wonder what other tryptamines would be possible that contain a DMT somewhere in it. Probably a whole lot. Wonder about 4-meo-dmt? Hmm guess i'll have to do some reading. I wonder if a synthetic something-DMT etc. that was active, would retain the "natural" "earthy" character that these three DMT's have..

Now, the 5meo was wonderful, perfectly mix with dimethyltryptamine. Now, i will have to try the diplopterys leaves next time, Mimosa was TERRIBLE tasting. Suprisingly, i never purged. I must have a great stomach. Just the taste alone almost made me purge when sipping, it - but i held back and never managed to ...barf I may also do an extraction from the mimosa bark so I can just take a capsule or similar instead of having to taste that awful stuff. Its now 12:45.

Now a little while ago, i measured and up the nose goes - 50mg DPT. Nasty drip. Got some water took a few sips and all is good. Prepare for lift off? Its now 1:14, and i really do now wonder if the daily use of piracetam goes against certain "trips". I would have thought I would be trippin' my mind outta this world with the dose of DPT i took. I'm still able to type this now, although i feel it climbing.. Its now 1:17 and I am going to sit somewhere else and open up and check out da scenery..

Its now 1:45.

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Well there wasn't much else to add after that. Any visuals i got (before the DPT) were on the milder side, if i didnt know what i was taking i would have thought psilocin/cybin, unless i really listened to the music, then i'd think, "huh"?

I also think that I did not cut up the bark good enough, I should have put it in a blender and grinded the hell out of it, into more of a powdery substance/etc. I just used my hands, and ripped apart the pieces, into strands, or small pieces, i would have thought 18g of this would have been "more than enough" so i guess i wasn't worried about it too much. I also wonder how much heat is a factor, most of what i've read involves simmering/boiling but for doing extractions they say to not even use any heat at all as it can damage some of the DMT. I know when I first put the bark and water/lemon juice in the pan, before I turned on heat the liquid was already turning red. It seems like just grinding it up into fine fine pieces and powder, adding water / possibly the acid, and just shaking it up in a jar and have it sit a little longer than "cooking it" might work and just do extractions that way, and by the 3rd time if there is not much color change of the water, i could always then put it in a pan on the stove and heat it up, and see if any more does actually come out. Lots of reading to do!

I also wonder if people taking rue or other harmala/harmaline for the mao inhibiting, if it adds enough of its own effect to seem to potentiate the experience. This felt like a pure clean DMT trip with the moclobemide. When I noticed that sound was starting to "split" and "blend" like the 5-meo-dmt experience (sorta), looking around my vision was also, can't explain it, but it felt like there was something real awesome "past" that threshold/door. Towards the beginning when it possibly got the strongest (should have then slammed down the rest!) I did see once or twice almost like a 'flash' of a faint pattern, over my vision that had a certain geometric shape pattern to it, mostly towards the bottom but i did see it.

I'm definitely looking forward to doing this again, whether I do an extraction from the bark, try the leaves that I have, and be sure to make enough for a massive dose. That way if i drink/eat some and i get to a peak, but know i'll need to go higher, i'll have a lot more to drink (or take more in capsule(s) ). DMT supposedly doesn't really have a tolerance right? I would like to get to the more visionary state eventually

 

[Splatt]

Interesting report!

 

[hydrobromide]

Re: Moclohuasca (+ DPT) - First time - Higher dose next time.

Mimosa was TERRIBLE tasting.

Yeah, no kidding. Probably one of the worst things I've tried to drink (it made VERY concentrated kratom tea seem quite nice by comparison). It made me puke almost immediately after drinking it one time, just because it tasted so bad. Not only that, but I powder my root bark very finely. This leaves a disgustingly bitter, wet powdery residue in my mouth.

The Harmala compunds definately add to the experience. Even if I take it alone, it is subtly trippy in a strange way.

What kind of environment do you find is best for oral DMT trips? You seem to have a lot of experience with it. Do you like to be alone, or with friends? Do you enjoy loud music or a quiet peaceful setting? What kinds of activities do you usually find yourself doing during the experience? Do you prefer to be indoors or outside?

Does smoking weed negatively influence the trip? Sometimes I feel weed can take away from certain trips by adding a cloudy, confusing haze to what would have been a clear, clean trip.

I've also read about how DMT doesn't have any kind of tolerance in humans. Very interesting stuff.

 

[VictorBorge]

I've wondered that about regular piracetam use somehow "blocking" the strongest psychedelic effects as well. My last few trips after starting piracetam were all disappointing. Could have been set and setting, but I get little enough benefit from piracetam that I should probably just cut it out anyway before tripping again.

 

[bluedolphin]

I took LSD after piracetam with my last LSD trip (which I haven't written a report on yet, maybe I will). The visuals seemed a little bit extra colorful and overall it was a very nice experience. I think they were quality doses too

 

[yaesutom]

Wow I didn't realise it was that long ago when I first had 'huasca.

I don't remember typing that about piracetam since it was long ago but, I know now that DMT + piracetam = bad!

I believe DMT has this wierd 'dissociating' quality to it, where it lets the "YOU" or "I" split moreso into "WE". Yet all the parts of you, the we's, are still connected to you, they are just allowed more freedom to run on their own (like run their 'own' mini program). I think this is the reason for entities, or hearing the voices so common with DMT (the voices can be talking about random shit, sounding like random people, or actually talking about you or something your thinking about). Also I think this is the reason I can multitask like a pimp mo'fo' on this stuff! MDMA ain't got nothin' on oral DMT, in my opinion!!

I've actually had a few very freakish experiences, and it took me a while to figure it out but i think i have, all of them were after I had taken piracetam, probably most often near when the piracetam would be "peaking". It feels like its fighting the DMT, like they are battling each other. It totally just does not feel right. I've had it happen when smoking DMT too, where i'll take a hit, get the "bad" feeling and immediately blow it out fast - yet there won't be much of DMT's normal effects at all - but a panic sets in, like there's a "threat" yet I don't know why or anything, its pretty damn wierd.

Then again i've noticed a few times i'll get some strange strong visuals if i take piracetam with it. Wierd..

As for weed although i've only smoked it a couple/few times on DMT, it really does seem to boost it up, mainly visually. I'll see those 'ancient letters' that look like sanskrit or whatever over things more often. I usually prefer no weed during a trip though.

As for settings for oral DMT.. for me, there is no bad place to take DMT! Seriously i'd take some before a job interview.. i'd do better. Anywhere that involves music, dancing, partying, women.. great setting. I can pretty much do any normal activity on this stuff, as long as the dose ain't too high. The stuff makes me ridiculously horny also

 

[VictorBorge]

I've actually had a few very freakish experiences, and it took me a while to figure it out but i think i have, all of them were after I had taken piracetam, probably most often near when the piracetam would be "peaking". It feels like its fighting the DMT, like they are battling each other. It totally just does not feel right. I've had it happen when smoking DMT too, where i'll take a hit, get the "bad" feeling and immediately blow it out fast - yet there won't be much of DMT's normal effects at all - but a panic sets in, like there's a "threat" yet I don't know why or anything, its pretty damn wierd.

Interesting, I got the same inexplicable panic on my last few tryptamine experiences, which were done during a piracetam regimen. I attributed it more to MAOI, but perhaps it was the combination of all three.

How long does piracetam take to leave your system? I stopped taking it a couple of days ago, just wondering how long before a trip would be considered free of piracetam interaction.