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DMT - First Time - Mathematical Machinery

Kul69

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Before this I had smoked DMT twice but with very minor effect. Each of those experiences consisted of a small amount of DMT mixed with marijuana. Effects were a physical vibration feeling and very minor morphing of objects. This takes place in a small wood cabin. I was alone.

After my second time smoking DMT with mild physical feelings I decided to explore a bit more. I put crystals on a small amount of marijuana with more marijuana over it with crystals on top of that. Unknown what my dose was.

I hold the lighter over the pipe and slowly lower it until the crystals begin to melt. After it is mostly melted I move in more and light the marijuana. No strange synthetic taste like I normally have. However, I had just smoked about 15 before and was still feeling slight intoxicated. Not feeling any different so far. I quickly take another hit and this time I get that strange taste. I exhaled and got the physical vibrations feeling but much stronger than normal. I torch the bowl and ash the rest of it with this last hit. Right as I'm finishing exhaling I get an immediate warning in my mind telling me PUT DOWN THE PIPE. I realize that I haven't taken a breath yet except for hitting the pipe. I start breathing deeply and focusing on my breath. Just breath.. in.. out.. I set the pipe down and lean forward in my chair and stare at the floor.

The rug is morphing into itself in so many ways with separate layers that obviously never existed before. I fall back into my chair and look up at the ceiling. There are layers of visuals running all over the wood and wrapping around everything in the room, coating it. It's impossible to describe how it looked. It was very intricate and detailed, moreso than seems possible to visually comprehend.

Around this time I began to rub my chest and stomach and I realized the reason I was doing it was because I wanted to make sure I still had a body. It grounded me somewhat. I ran my hand over my stomach and all of the sudden it felt very sticky and wet like I had gotton something all over my hand. I then lifted my hand up and looked at it. I could see all of my veins and just an undescribable visual of seeing what my hand actually is. Something straight out of an anatomy book. I looked over to my right and looked at a poster of Bob Marley. There appeared to be a layer streaming across it that looked very similar to water with chemicals in it. That rainbow hue on the surface of oil slicks or whatever. I looked over to my left where I had a beige blanket covering some large windows and I could see lines and intricacy in this plain beige blanket that totally blew me away. Not going to even attempt to describe them.

Then I felt like everything suddenly became alive. The beige blanket was swirling around with incredible speed like it was being flushed down a drain. I knew that everything was alive around me. It was always there and observing in a way I would never know. It was as if I was communicating with everything and it didn't really care about me. I tried to "ask" what is "wrong" and what is "right"? The sense I got back was that NOTHING was wrong or right and I was being silly to try to form a question like that. Everything was laughing at me. Then I saw my room split in half and open up. This occurred as if it was nothing unusual. Like a door had just opened that was always there but it was painted the same as the walls in such a perfect way you would never know it was there. Behind the door was amazingly detailed machinery but it looked very similar to a brain in overall structure. It was the most intricate detailed machinery ever but it wasn't quite real. The machines weren't physical but they existed. They were the most perfect mathematical equations that governered all of reality. They didn't exist in reality but dictated what reality is just the same.

I understood very, very well that I was looking at the "rabbit hole". This is why people lose their minds. This is where the danger lies. I had a sinister vision of some random person falling through that open door and being shown what they always wanted, "What is the meaning of life?" but they didn't think about it being so impossible that it pulled their minds apart. What did all of this mean really? What was happening? I have no idea.. what I did know is that I could go a lot deeper through that door if I wanted to but it just might change me forever. I was being let go with a warning, "only the brave dare go here but I will take you no matter who you are".

The door closes and reality resumes. Have I been breathing? Did that really just happen? This shit is fucking INCREDIBLE. I look over at my fish tank and there is a gel like substance flowing all over the glass. Everything is continuing to morph slightly and there is still the same 'veil' of patterns flowing around things. I know I'm coming down though and I lay down and just think about things. I don't remember much now about what I was thinking, I think I was mostly just in awe.

I laid there for about 30 minutes I believe. Looking back.. wow, wow, wow.

I never saw the "crysanthamum" that people talk about. I had my eyes opened the entire time not because I was trying not to close them or anything like that but what was happening was so amazing that I forgot to even look for closed eye visuals. I must have been right at the dose of breaking through or something. I didn't imagine I would have such intense open eye visuals with DMT from all the trip reports I've read. Nothing could have prepared me for this experience and it was very different than any trip report I'd read before considering I had my eyes open the whole time.

P.S. Measuring doses is always a really good idea and I have a 0.001g scale on the way so I won't be eyeballing doses anymore. I have no regrets though.
 
Nice!

I didn't imagine I would have such intense open eye visuals with DMT from all the trip reports I've read.

...Which DMT reports have you been reading? DMT is known as being ludicrously visual with eyes open. Are you confusing DMT and 5-MeO-DMT?
 
excellent report. I always enjoyed just-sub-breakthrough DMT doses... (like you said you weren't catapulted into the rabbit hole, you were shown it)
 
"...Which DMT reports have you been reading? DMT is known as being ludicrously visual with eyes open. Are you confusing DMT and 5-MeO-DMT"

I've always had OEV that, while impossible to ignore, were absolutely nothing impressive compared to lsd or psyilocybin, etc. Nothing special open eyed. Sometimes too hazy to make out what is in front of me. And I've taken it pretty far, I'd say, based on my closed eye visuals. 70mg in a bong rip floored me (literally) and I felt (when I could tell what 'feeling' was again) completely obliterated. But still no beautiful patterns with the eyes open.

Closed eye, however, I've seen some of the most beautiful, colorful, amazing, and profound things I've ever seen. I've read quite a few reports online detailing something simillar. In amounts that don't destroy people, often opening the eyes is somewhat grounding compared to the land with closed eyes. And the people I've spoken to about it in real life feel pretty much the same. Some typical walls/floors melting, carpets shifting around, and things just generally falling apart towards a peak. But nothing beautiful or amazing as seen with other chems.

And yes, this is of course n,n-dmt. I've yet to try 5-meo. At this point, I can't say I have an extreme desire to.
 
morninggloryseed, do you have a strong physical reaction to 5-meo-DMT?

nn-DMT is very smooth on my body, incredibly so actually. But I hear of people taking 5-meo-DMT and thinking they can't breathe, their hearts racing and pounding, etc. This type of physical reaction, after all the various things I've tried, is frankly a deal breaker for me these days. And that is basically what has kept me from trying 5-meo-DMT.
 
Interesting report. Nothing can prepare you for what DMT will show you.

I never bothered measuring my doses, never had a way to. Just hit it until you need to set the pipe down and you're set. No matter how far you go you always come back.

The really crazy trips are when it doesn't matter if your eyes are open or closed. I usually keep them open but often become unaware of whether or not they remain so.
 
morninggloryseed, do you have a strong physical reaction to 5-meo-DMT?

Only at threshold dosages. When I take a full hit of 5-MeO-DMT (8mg-10mg) there is no body left, thus no body to feel anything. WHen I come out of the peak...I feel heavenly. Like MDMA, only better. 5-MeO-DMT is the best of the best.
 
blue)dolphin said:
thinking they can't breathe, their hearts racing and pounding, etc. This type of physical reaction, after all the various things I've tried, is frankly a deal breaker for me these days.

Thats my approach to all long-lived drugs, but I'm still going to try 5-meo-dmt because it seems to me that such reactions on a very short-lived drug are probably a shock-type reaction to such an intense, fast experience. A startled reaction doesn't worry me at all, unlike shaky, overstimulation effects a la 5-meo-amt/dob/b-dragonfly
 
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