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DMT first time - alone

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Gunna be trying DMT for the first time tonight in my own home, alone. Welll my father will be in and there but he's not a drug user so in essence I'll be using alone.

My friends tried the same batch 2 days ago, their first times too and they both had a point each (100mg) they both had an intense experience and both said the sme thing that they felt a little uncomfortable in their bodies, did they do too much?

That's how much Im picking up from them. 100mgs. A point. I don't have a scale to measure so I don't know how much to do. I really don't wanna do not enough and not feel Anything I'd rather just do the point!

The method of them smoking was ontop of cigaarette ash with a weed pipe (small metal ones) same way we smoke crack here in the UK.

Now I've been looking online and have made this .... It's a 2 litre with tinfoil to slip on the bottom and a pit for the DMT which you light from underneath and it vaporizes on the foil filling the bottle with smoke.

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Now they deffo got high from their DMT nd theyve told me it was INTENSE. And I've herd other people smoking it the sme way with good results.. But surely wasnt the named flame burning it??

So yeah 2 questions I need answers to quick as I pick it up in just over an hour .

1. How much do I take first time. I have no scales. I want the experience not just something like acid haha.

2. Which way should I smoke it?
 
if you use a bit of brillo pad (with the coating burned off) in a bong with no water in it, then you can put as much as you need in and if it's too much, you can go back to it later. enough for one big lungful is enough, no more. 50mg is enough for a very strong trip, id say.

your friends crack pipe method would work, and i've heard of the bottle working too, but never tried it.

i don't find the naked flame affected it, it was fucking ridiculous every time i used it. just suck the fuck out of it to get loads of smoke.

put the pipe down before you exhale, as you might forget you're holding it. maybe best if your dad can watch just in case.
 
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100mg is ALOT normally to really rip through the universe 30-40mg is enough at higher doses you risk the possibility of not remembering anything and having a very intense trip with ego loss and going to sometimes frighning places - GL
 
I reckon you'll be fine. Just make sure you have somewhere safe to put the bottle after so you don't burn yaself. Maybe have a bucket of water ready or something. Make sure it's nearby, cos at those doses you really don't have much time before ya just sink back and enter hyperspace.

As for the dose, 100mg does seem a bit excessive for the first time. Try halving it. That said, I have done 100mg+ doses and was fine, but can't even imagine what it'd be like first time. I would suggest trying to breakthrough though, because under-dosing can often be more uncomfortable than overdosing. The first time I felt well weird - wasn't quite "there" but was still sat up, looking around the room, etc. Wasn't impressed and it put me off it for a bit, but then one night when I was a bit drunk I hoofed a load more (50mg+) and it was one of the most incredible, if not the most incredible experience of my life. It's truly wonderful stuff.

Not good HR but maybe have a couple beers before hand? Certainly helped me. Enjoy!

Edit: Forgot to mention - I'd use the bottle method that you pictured if I were you!
 
I never got anywhere with smoking it - couldn't get it work. I always take it orally with an MAOI like moclobemide, lasts 2 hours instead of 30 seconds or whatever. Good luck.
 
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The product.

I tested what just a bit first just under a third of what was there so around 30mg.

As soon as the smoke cleared the chamber I placed the bottle down in the table as I could already feel it rushing to my brain. The trip was intense, lasted around ten minutes.

When that was over I composed myself and got ready for the 70mg hit. Same thing again but everything much more intense and for a couple of minutes before I may down to enjoy the CEVs , it's hard to explain. I could feel another presence with me in the room. They CEV's were like nothing I've ever seen! I reckon ibwas close to breaking through on the 70mg hit just because I could feel a presence with me but couldn't see anything.

I kinda wish I would have done the whole point in one hit and probably broke through.

What a beautiful druh though , wow. Barely have time tobplace the bottle down then boom!

The lad said I can hit him up for more he just lives a lil faraway. I will get hold of if again at some point I'm sure.

Then I will go for the 100 mg hit and make a TR.

Anyone else sensed another presence with them without actually seeing if on DMT?

Does this mean a breakthrough was close?
 
Sure it wasn't your Dad =D

Sounds like you weren't far off. Are you still taking opies and benzos? That may be playing a part in it lacking that little bit of magic. 100mg is overkill imo, we're all different though.

For most, 50mg is about where it's at in my experience, unfortunately little experience from a handful of times that is.. But yeah, what a gem of a drug, the euphoria and visuals are literally out of this world..

Nice toothbrush by the way;)
 
Haha thanks gotta big gob ;)

Yeah I'm on 60mg of methadone daily, about 250mg Oxycodone daily, and still allowing myself the odd shot off Heroin maybe 4/5 times a month.

Still into my benzo's too however I hadnt had any this day. With benzo's I tend to get 50 diazis, munch them over 2-3 days then not have any for a nearly 2 week. Or get 100 and they'll last me a week most of the time.

I have a huge natural tolerance for benzo's its bit fair!

I'm buzzing though as where I had to go through a friend to get it for me off his mate, I've now got his number, which means I can go directly to him as I'm sure you will know its a pain in the arse relying on someone else to sort it for you. The more people between you and the drug the more chance of a let down.

I'm not driving at the moment and the guy isn't local but he's not too fair only say for example from Manchester-Liverpool ao would be cheap on the the train or I'm sure I could pay someone £20 for a lift!

Now I'm in contact with the actual seller I can see it being in the closer future I next try it .... Ie next payday!! :D

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Most people breakthro on sub 50mg levels but I guess if you have other drugs in yer system it may change things also the strength of the DMT can vary greatly - The best i had was intense at 20mg dose with beautiful fractal vision and colours and a clown in grateful dead colours... BTW on most trips I have the presence of a young girl who laughs with me at the madness of whats going on im sure we talk about deep stuff (she has a very bright intelligence despite being young and im not sure if she is human)....yes readers DMT is a weird one, but wonderful - The last good blast I had i went in with the thought of stopping H and I had the most intense body rush and euphoria as if to say - don't take that take this tis much better. But i never crave it - unless i dont have any and want to travel down the rabbit hole and then i dont fiend on it , i dont think anyone does. once a month maybe a bit more depending, satisfys me.
 
As stated, potency as with every other drug could play a part apparently he's given testers to seasoned spice users and they confirmed its potency so maybe it was the methadone and oxy in my system. This is a daily occurrence so I'm deffo gunna do thebpointbin one next time. I'm gunna get as much as i can afford when I get it so I've nor gotta travel nextvtime I want some. I don't know what quantities he sells it in yet wether I'll have to buy a full gram or he does ¼/½ grams. Hoping to speak to him later. He's a good source for Dutch rolls as well and I didn't have one for Dutch pills just the UK presses.

Does it kook like there would be ebough in that baggy to blast off twice? I know you couldn't ssay for definite but just a guess
 
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250mg oxy a day ? plus all that other stuff ? how do you guys do it ?????
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I'm at thde point where it doesnt affect me any more.

I take my prescribed 60mg methadone a day and sometimes up to 500mg of oxycodone and 180mg Valium with it but always 60mg methadone and an 80 OC and 200mg OxyNorm. Sometimes I'll have a a couple of bags of H on top too haha.

Not Dicksizing by any means but it just doesn't seem to affect me the way it does others.

4 years of opiate abuse and I can count on one band the amount of time's I've caught a nod....pisses me off!

All I get from a shot of decent H is 30 sec rush nd warmth and that's that.
 
yeah, man. sounds like you need a tolerance break. those are some pretty insane doses.

i eyeball 2 doses in that bag if it's good stuff. remember that there's no point in doing dmt twice in the same couple of hours as you get a tolerance or resilience to it as soon as you hit it which seems to last for a few hours. this is why you've gotta take it all in one big hit. the first 30mg is probably why the 70mg didn't take you over. try hitting the 70mg first time maybe?? also the opiates and benzos will affect it somwhat too.
 
Yeah I suppose they are pretty big doses.

What would be the best strategy for a tolerance break then?

I've never really had one before unless I've been unable to gain access to the Oxy’s anymore and then I've had, say, a one week break from the Oxy’s.

The 60mg of methadone should cover me for the lack of Oxy. I was on 40mg of 'done and when I didn't have access to the Oxy’s I'd start WD'ing as the methadone dose was obviously too low for the habit I'd raised up. I was only put on methadone to stop my Heroin usage and I only use Heroin 2-3 times a month now so it's been successful in that sense. But then I can get access to big doses of oxycodone for free daily for free. How can any dope head turn down free daily oxy??

Could any on here?

I do really need the tolerance break and maybe intensive (besides from intensifying the DMT trip obvs) would be that I would continue to receive the ~250mg oxycodone daily (80mg OC and ~200mg OxyNorm concentrate) which I could then keep to one side and say I have a 2 week break; at the end of it I'll have 14 OC80s and a load of OxyNorm concentrate.

How long MINIMUM would I need for tolerance to drop? I'm on MMT so I need to keep taking to 60mg/day of methadone, just cut the oxy.

Would it be better just taking the 80mg OC and saving my 200mg OxyNorm, would that do?
 
Also though, I'm bored as shit sat around at the minute with no money and anxiety issues cut off from all my mates with my anxiety so the Oxy is the only thing I look forward to in my day, especially when I've took everything like my valium and Heroin that my benefits could buy and theyre gone , they only last a day or two then its two weeks til next payday so having the Oxy at least gives me something to look forward to!
 
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The tollerance that builds with oxy's is quick as you have found out - having said that i would have thought that 60mg of m'done ought to keep you out of WD's if not then add in 40mg of oxy and taper down 5mg every couple of days but methadone is a very strong binder and ought to keep you well, As for tollerance after a week/10 days you should be reset as it were. Ideally you need to stop the methadone for 24h before taking the oxy's as like i said m'done is a strong binder to the mu and other receptors so its a waste really taking them on top. You could think about stopping yer m'done and just take oxy's for 3-4 weeks (reducing everyday by a little) until the m'done is out your system then switch to methadone and do a 2 week taper - then you are back at point zero as it were. Of course if you are supervised for your m'done then needs a rethink....
 
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